Sunday, February 20, 2011

Re: The Tea Party is it a real party? No

Like you are just a mouth dump for Demo-jism?  which you then snowball in an attempt to spread mad cow and other diseases

On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
The so called "Tea Party" is just a mouthpiece of sheeple for the Far
Reich wing nut agenda of self centered hate and vitrol.

On 2/20/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Rory!
>
> I concede that the Tea Party is not perfect, but I think the intent, from
> its inception, was and continues to be quite honorable.
>
> "Limited Government";  a return to, and a demand of those elected to adhere
> to the Constitution;  and a responsible, fiscally conservative economic
> policy.
>
> It remains to be seen whether the Tea Party will be totally successful, but
> there is no doubt that the Tea Party has already made an inpact.  There are
> a number of things that have already happened that five years ago I would
> have bet a dollar and a beer we would have never seen.
>
> For instance, when the people of the United States stood up and demanded
> that the Congress not allow for amnesty of illegal immigrants some three or
> four years ago, when that legislation was damn near a shoo-in.  The fact
> that the majority of those who voted for socialized medicine against their
> consituency's wishes, were swiftly dismissed from office, and look what is
> going on in Ohio, Wisconsin,  Florida, Tennessee,  and other states with the
> public servants who are way overpaid and receive a benefit package that
> exceeds most all of the private sector's benefit packages.   The majority of
> Americans are saying, "ENOUGH"!
>
> I do agree that the Tea Party is not perfect, in a number of different ways,
> but I do believe that in general, the Tea Party is accomplishng the goals
> that it was intended for.
>
> As far as the two party political system goes, here in the United States,
> well,  a subject for another time, but I think there is a divergence of
> opinion here.
>
> The Republican Party, (just like the Democratic Party)  is made up of a
> coalition or consortium of different groups,  and in order for the
> Republican Party to continue to make inroads, there has to be some issues
> that are put on the "Back Burner"  that many would like to see made a
> reality.
>
> To classify "conservatives" as, "Republicans" is misplaced.  There are at
> least four or five broad classifications of voter types that usually vote
> Republican; a coalition if you will; and  some of these group's beliefs
> obviously overlap.  I admit that I am stereotyping here but to make my
> point, here by example are those types of groups that generally form the
> coalition for the Republican Party to be successful:
>
> The "Social Conservatives", or "traditionalists"; sometimes unflatteringly
> referred to as the  "fundamentalist religious zealots"; of which family,
> church and community are their most important issues;
>
> The "Economic Conservatives"; who view nature as actually benign,
> encouraging individualism, experimentation, and entrepreneurship;
>
> The "Libertarians"; or "Constitutionalists; who in general look for a strict
> adherence to the Constitution, and a very limited, restricted government;
>
> The "Fatalists"; or, (again for lack of a better term) the "NeoCons"; (and I
> detest that term, because by definition, all "NeoCons" are former Democrats)
> who generally believe in a strong central government, with a "Federalist"
> perspective.
>
> In general,  the Tea Party embraces many of the aforementioned traits, and
> thus, the reason that most Tea Partiers end up identifying with the
> Republican Party.   The Republican Party Leadership must return to and once
> again advocate the "Conservative-Libertarian-Constitutionalist" values that
> were so successful, and of which Ronald Reagan championed and advocated back
> in the 1980s.   I believe that you are going to see another house cleaning
> in 2012, on both sides of the aisle, and a return to these conservative
> libertarian principles in the next 18-24 months, which still allows for and
> respects those Traditionalist/Social Conservative values and champions
> fiscal responsibility and the principles of the Economic Conservatives.
>
> On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 9:38 PM, robert prezioso
> <ragprezioso@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hey
>>
>> I see some of your point but the two party system is destorying our
>> country
>> and aslong as you keep replace rep  and dem with the same you are not
>> improving this government . Are these so called new people will to give up
>> their 150000.00 plus salary to really help the people of course not . How
>> many of these tea party people came to the reception give for them by the
>> tea party not many . Once these fools are in they cannot be fired  so they
>> will not do what you want and the last time I cahecked red and blue make
>> green and that is all they are about until we are able to control them
>> again.  The Tea Party is justreplace one crook with another  without even
>> athought what they are doing.
>>
>> Thanks for  debate
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>   On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Keith In Köln
>> <keithintampa@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>   Hello Rory!
>>>
>>> I maybe have a different perspective....I think maybe Bruce might agree
>>> with me to a degree.
>>>
>>> It's my belief that the Tea Party is really a majority of Americans, from
>>> all walks of life, and crossing racial, ethnic, economic, and politcal
>>> party
>>> lines.
>>>
>>> The mainstream media, the Republican Party, and most especially those who
>>> hold very far left of center viewpoints, predominately from the
>>> Democratic
>>> Party have done everything within their power to portray the Tea Party
>>> movement as something far different.  Something sinister, crazed, and not
>>> at
>>> all what the majority of Americans are really demanding, which is a
>>> return
>>> to a fiscally conservative government that abides by the Constitution of
>>> the
>>> United States, secures its borders and guarantees the ability for a
>>> thriving
>>> free market economy.
>>>
>>> The Tea Party, in my humble opinion was never designed or intended to be
>>> a
>>> political party per-se.   The Tea Party was meant only to sweep those
>>> politicans who are not receptive to this Nation's demands, from office.
>>>
>>> Again, in my humble opinion, I don't think we have seen the last of this
>>> movement, nor the last of a house cleaning in Washington and other State
>>> legislations.
>>>
>>>    On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 2:58 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <
>>> markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is a loose knit group of like minded middle class people that
>>>> simply want a return to a Constitutional Republic.
>>>>
>>>> The winners are, Senate:
>>>> PA- Pat Toomey
>>>> KY- Rand Paul
>>>> FL- Marco Rubio
>>>> WI- Ron Johnson
>>>> UT- Mike Lee
>>>>
>>>> House:
>>>> Tea Party Winners in the House of Representatives (33 possibly more
>>>> due to undecided races):
>>>> Sandy Adams, FL-24
>>>> Justin Amash, MI-03
>>>> Rep. Michele Bachmann, MN-06
>>>> Dan Benishek, MI-01
>>>> Rick Crawford, AR-01
>>>> Rep. Marsha Blackburn, TN
>>>> Robert Dold, IL-10
>>>> Renee Ellmers, NC-02
>>>> Tom Graves, GA-09
>>>> Tim Griffin, AR-02
>>>> Michael Grimm, NY-13
>>>> Paul Gosar, AZ-01
>>>> Rep. Joe Wilson, SC
>>>> Vicky Hartzler, MO-04
>>>> Nan Hayworth, NY-19
>>>> Randy Hultgren, IL-14
>>>> Adam Kinzinger, IL-11
>>>> Raul Labrador, ID-01
>>>> Jeff Landry, LA-03
>>>> Rep. Tom McClintock, CA
>>>> Kristi Noem, SD
>>>> Rep. Mike Pence, IN
>>>> Rep. Tom Price, GS
>>>> Jon Runyan, NJ-3
>>>> David Schweikert, AZ-5
>>>> Robert Schilling, IL-17
>>>> Tim Scott, SC-1
>>>> Steve Southerland, FL-02
>>>> Marlin Stutzman, IN-03
>>>> Scott Tipton, CO
>>>> Todd Young, IN-09
>>>> Tim Walberg, MI-07
>>>> Allen West, FL-22
>>>>
>>>> Continue reading on Examiner.com: Election 2010: Tea Party winners and
>>>> losers - GOP future - Portland Progressive | Examiner.com
>>>>
>>>> http://www.examiner.com/progressive-in-portland/election-2010-tea-party-winners-and-losers-gop-future#ixzz1ER7EUf39
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 12:43 pm, rorywolf <ragprezi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >  The problem with the Tea Party is that they are not a party all they
>>>> > are doing is putting the same old parties back in.  It take no proof
>>>> > to show you this I know you  will agree until they actually have a
>>>> > true Party that have candidate and a way to change the way of doing
>>>> > political business even just a little. It is just my opinion, but I
>>>> > think that they are a danger because they really are not making a
>>>> > change the people they put in will turn on them just as all the rest
>>>> > have turn the backs on the people. Until we are able to fire a
>>>> > politician without them finishing a term this country's government
>>>> > will always win, So if you would like me change my mind show me what
>>>> > they actually did but replace one idiot with another .Yes they thought
>>>> > they were doing good and in the begin I love the party but then came
>>>> > to the realization that they did nothing but show they can replace a
>>>> > rep with a dem nothing else.
>>>> >
>>>> > The Author
>>>>
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Tommy

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