Assalam o alaikum ..
brother zeeshan ... if we define nation then ..there are two nation in all over the world... Muslims n Non-Muslims... but when we have been independent as Pakistan we said this Nation... and Muslims were leading ..... so if we gonna set up our nation it means we gonna set up Pakistan..if Pakistan become strong n our people can think n implements thier thinking to the life... so its very near that the whole muslim world can be ONE.... so u cant say if we are talking abt pakistan then it dosent mean that non-muslims cant take part here ..of course they can tooo...if they are agreeing with our aims........
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Regards
BazMi
From: Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com; pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com
Cc: tariqstf@gmail.com; sagetaiba@gmail.com; info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk; Bazmi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com>; usmanqasim@hotmail.com; architectsherry@gmail.com
Sent: Wed, December 15, 2010 4:32:41 AM
Subject: RE: **JP** ***Back To Nation***
Dear All,
Lets we start our discussion. First of all what do we mean the word "Nation". There are two nations 1. Pakistani 2. Muslim.
I have the to describe separately Pakistani & Muslim. If we discuss about Pakistani then we must to talk about all Pakistanis (including all minorities because all are Pakistani but they are non-Muslims). If we have to discuss about Muslim then we must to talk about all Muslims rather they are Pakistani or non Pakistani.
Kindly put your feedback in this regard.
Regards,
Zeeshan .A. Siddiqui
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 05:13:19 -0800
From: soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: ***Back To Nation***
To: pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com
CC: zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com; tariqstf@gmail.com; usmanqasim@hotmail.com; architectsherry@gmail.com; sagetaiba@gmail.com; info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk
usman bro yes we have resorces are less then our problems... but my view is abt resources ..that resources wil never can satisfy us ... and now a days the situation of Our Homeland .. is very difficult... INSHALLAH it will not disturb us ...
tariq bhai ya its also a good idea ..but i guess we have to also use groups there are thousands of people and many of them want to work ... any way what u think better ... zeeshan bro u subscribe this group and also help me to subscribe joinpakistan group i tried but i couldnt wid ma yahoo id ...
no any reply from Pak-girls group????
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=Don't Ever Tell A Lie=
Regards
From: Tariq Aziz <tariqstf@gmail.com>
To: Usman Qasim <usmanqasim@hotmail.com>
Cc: soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com; pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com; zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com; sagetaiba@gmail.com; info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk; joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sat, December 11, 2010 12:10:13 AM
Subject: Re: ***Back To Nation***
would not it be batter to join somewhere there we can put our comments instead of emails,
I know about a site www.vrshared.com that just serves like FaceBook but some more features, its newly opened so there is not alot traffic and the best thing is its being operated from amuslim arab county probebly from UAE. its just an advice if you guys like it.
"Back to Nation" now its look better, guys I think before starting we should know a bit about each other so we can use an individual in his full and actual capacity in his/her specific area. I start from my self, I am from Karachi, MBA Finance and working for a financial institution from last 5 years.
as we all know our resources are less than our problems ( as a nation ) so I think we should target a specific area/problem and work on it, I think education is the backbone of every nation and we are lacking in this, health is also very important but badly neglected in our country and list goes on...........
I am inviting all of you to give your brief introduction and suggestions what can we do for our Nation and how
Regards
Usman Qasim
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:10:36 -0800
From: soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com
Subject: ***We Are The People , Used To Be A Nation***
To: pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com
CC: tariqstf@gmail.com; zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com; usmanqasim@hotmail.com; sagetaiba@gmail.com; info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk
tariq bhai ya it has began but i was wanted a speech from u ..any way ... usman bhai also took a point that change the subject of this email so i m replacing this subject of this email...
its subject will be''we are the people, used to be a Nation'
now i m inviting n requesting u alll ppl as zeeshan , usman, talib e madinah, saphier, n all the ppl who are in the group Pakistan girls@google groups.com and also invite other pplz of our homeland ... and of course as tariq bhai said ..we need the people whose hearts are full of pain for our homeland ..and really they wanna build Nation again...
so write here every body....but write things those u can do practically... as we have a platform to do some thing .....
as we know that ..mulims has a unique history .. if we used to ruling all over the world then also the world were destroying us ... if we were top of the world then also we had many troubles to rule on the world ...
there is a question ...
how we ruled all over the world ?? and why we also detroyed by our enemies???
its simple we ruled when we were sincere with us ,, we did fear ALLAH, we did fear our akhirah. we did remember our death.... mean we were true muslims..
however ... now we are gathered here to build Nation again ....
how can it be possible..i m very sure that it is possible just we have to make a goal n keep always sincere with our goal ...what is the goal?? goal is ''we have to be a Nation'' and it can be done when we will bring out our pain to our work for the setup ...we have to change the system..how it is ?? we can awake peoples those are sleeping and we have to encourage peoples those have been give up abt the nation..and they are not living , they are just spending thier time.. we have to show them that its not the end...its begining ...and dont give up ..stand again and work for it ...we can build it again....
what u say guys ..what do u think abt it ...give suggestions.. and dont think its just abt emails...or some scraps.... INSHALLAH when the time comes we will meet practically n begin ....
///Be happy forever\\\
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Regards
BazMi
From: Tariq Aziz <tariqstf@gmail.com>
To: I Am BazMi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com>
Cc: pak girls <pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com>; Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com>; Sapphire <info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk>; Talib-E-Madina Aasi-O-Gunahgaar <sagetaiba@gmail.com>; usman qasim <usmanqasim@hotmail.com>; thaiba chery <architectsherry@gmail.com>
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 8:49:39 AM
Subject: Re: **JP** Poem by a Hindu Poet - An eye opener !!!
Dear Bazmi,if I am not wrong than you have been started this topic already by putting these lines here "We are people...used to be nation" but what we need? we need real people with real spirit. we need a lot of pain in a heart about Pakistan and about Muslims and then about all over the world. please let everybody to participate and bring us to their wisdom and thoughts, I believe they all have something for their homeland.
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:18 PM, I Am BazMi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com> wrote:
Assalam o alaikum ....
this discusion were not abt some ppl those were writing over here..it was abt those ppl who were reading ...any way ... i know it has no end and may be it is just waste of time ... so to see ur thinking Tariq bhai n i know the point what u wanna bring that up... so i m leaving that discusion coz there is no end ... and just wasting of time ..and wid out pay ofcourse i will never do job in any firm ..hehehe
Ok I wanna begin a new discusion that is very valuable . most neccessary for us right now...and on that mattter we have done many of works (tariq bhai knows)
and that point is ''we are the people,used to be a Nation''
so i request to tariq bhai .. plz begin this topic through ur valuable email ...n request to allz, come with us on that matter ...we have to b a nation again... and just participate those ppl who believe in work ...and stay away those ppl who believe in talk...
1st i request to talib e mabina, saphiere , zeeshan siddique n usman brothers..just wait n let tariq bhai begin on that topic ... then u must pasticipate here truley , practically, ..
\\Your face Can Spread Many Many Happier Momoents//
=Don't Ever Tell A Lie=
Regards
BazMi
From: Tariq Aziz <tariqstf@gmail.com>
To: Zeeshan Siddiqui <zshansiddiqui@hotmail.com>
Cc: Bazmi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com>; sagetaiba@gmail.com; info@lhr.sapphire.com.pk; usmanqasim@hotmail.com; architectsherry@gmail.com; pakistani-girls@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 2:59:49 AM
Subject: Re: **JP** Poem by a Hindu Poet - An eye opener !!!
Dear All,
Thanks for appreciation and honor to let me involve in your matter, but unfortunately we are just wasting our energy and time to dig some useless or at-least less important issue that is not our life's goal.
What we have to do once; if we find as its right or wrong to build tombs or shrines…nothing at all, doest it sound stupid? Because it is not in our daily life we should be investing our time to find that what if I hurt my friend? What if I keep others right? What if I did not say my prayer? What if I abuse someone? What if I ignore my old parents? What if I could not give my children a better way of life and knowledge? There are a lot of things to find out about Islam. Islam is not only a religion but it was the first way of life incorporating with social, political and religious code of conduct. It tells us how to spend life it is not only to say prayers but it ask us to deal with people in the way that Allah wants.
How many days we spend on this meaningless debate…what we found? Is there anything that will bring a change in our lives now? Do any of us will now follow the research we made, as I can predict no one, no one will even try to remember this after a week, but when we will put our energy to find out what can make our life a role model and what can initiate a cause in our life to give and not to take…then we will be getting the real Islamic theory and that will be the day when all of us will laugh and enjoy that how stupid we were?
So; it's my request to all of you please get draw the tender of Islam from "Mullas" and try to apply it on your own life first, please for God's Sake don't do fighting for these useless issues, think about you, think about your family and then think about your nation…try to save them gradually be a nation again. Allah will help us and then you will find that how its worthless to talk about tombs and shrines. Try to understand the way your enemy is conducting with you counter it with your self-spirit in form of a nation, you will start getting the benefits of real Islam.
Please try to learn Islam it's nothing but nature.
May Allah bless us with wisdom, prosperity, unity and faith. May Allah turn back us into a Nation as we used to be.
Thanks & Regards
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