How about the fact that many illegals who work, are working "under the table?" The ones who have a phony SSN are identity thieves?
How about the fact that identity thieves create chaos in the lives of the real person?
How about the fact that they barely, if they do, speak English, let alone be able to read and write a term paper?
How about the fact that we pay taxes to provide our own children an education?
How about the fact that illegals pay little in taxes - sales tax because they are forced to - and have already gotten education, health care, food stamps, police and fire protection, subsidized housing, etc?
How about the fact that for every illegal sitting in a college class, there are fewer chairs that are supposed to be for available for people who are entitled to apply for that chair?
How about the fact that Americans deserve the chance for an American education?
How about the fact that illegals aren't supposed to be here at all?
How about the fact that illegals are ... illegal?
How about the fact that some illegals, from all over the world - Russian, China, South American, Europe, etc. are a threat to our nation?
How about the fact that we are urged to report suspicious objects but not suspicious people?
How about the fact that identity thieves create chaos in the lives of the real person?
How about the fact that they barely, if they do, speak English, let alone be able to read and write a term paper?
How about the fact that we pay taxes to provide our own children an education?
How about the fact that illegals pay little in taxes - sales tax because they are forced to - and have already gotten education, health care, food stamps, police and fire protection, subsidized housing, etc?
How about the fact that for every illegal sitting in a college class, there are fewer chairs that are supposed to be for available for people who are entitled to apply for that chair?
How about the fact that Americans deserve the chance for an American education?
How about the fact that illegals aren't supposed to be here at all?
How about the fact that illegals are ... illegal?
How about the fact that some illegals, from all over the world - Russian, China, South American, Europe, etc. are a threat to our nation?
How about the fact that we are urged to report suspicious objects but not suspicious people?
From: nominal9 <nominal9@yahoo.com>
To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 5:03:42 AM
Subject: Re: Harry Reid Promises to Vote on the Dream Act in a Lame Duck session of Congress
Still and all....
how about the "fact" that a lot of these... "illegals".... are in the
U.S. actually doing "work", albeit or pointedly at very low
"wages" ... somebody here wants them here and pays them to be
here.....and they are here.....well, are they or are they not...
"people"?... or are they just..."slaves"... not quite at the level of
"people".....I think you get the point... citizenship here is just a
"front' for... or a consequence of.... something a whole lot more
fundamental (and serious, IMO) .... a denial of basic human and civil
rights.
Admit it or NOT....
nominal9
On Nov 2, 6:51 am, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> That's only a small part of the Dream act. I don't see any reason why
> an
> illegal alien should become a citizen simply by getting a college
> degree at
> taxpayers' expense.
> --------------------------------------------
>
> Touche
>
> On Nov 1, 4:24 pm, Mustang <mustangsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > That's only a small part of the Dream act. I don't see any reason why an
> > illegal alien should become a citizen simply by getting a college degree at
> > taxpayers' expense.
>
> > There is a big difference between getting an education and putting one's life in
> > mortal danger. One comes with a 7/11, Dr. Pepper, warm bed and breakfast,
> > shopping, birds singing, and a well equipped hospital close by. The other from
> > a 9/11, medics, heavy body armor, sweat, crowded living conditions, terrorists
> > hiding around the corner, explosions, blood, body parts hurling through the air,
> > and medical care is a helicopter ride away... if lucky enough not to be shot
> > down by missiles itself.
>
> > There is no comparison for the easy way. It's a cop out to amnesty without
> > contributing to the well being of our nation first.
>
> > ________________________________
> > From: GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>
> > To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
> > Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 5:10:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: Harry Reid Promises to Vote on the Dream Act in a Lame Duck session
> > of Congress
>
> > Better than piggy backing it with defense appropriations and DADT.
>
> > I don't have a problem with illegals serving in our military as a path
> > to citizenship. Serve our country, and its your country.
>
> > On Oct 31, 11:31 pm, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:> <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/> Harry Reid
> > > Promises to Vote on the Dream Act in a Lame Duck session of
> > >Congress<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/2010/10/31/harry-reid-promises-to-...>
>
> > > *Scotty Starnes
> > > <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/author/scottystarnes/>*| October
> > > 31, 2010 at 2:53 PM | Tags: Dream
> > > Act <http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/tag/dream-act/>, Harry
> > > Reid<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/tag/harry-reid/>,
> > > illegal
>
> > immigrants<http://scottystarnes.wordpress.com/tag/illegal-immigrants/>,
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> > > This is the reason Democrats are going to lose big on Tuesday. Instead of
> > > talking about JOBS, they continue to ram through legislation that the
> > > American people don't want. The DREAM Act is another law Americans are
> > > against. We do not believe illegal immigrants should be granted citizenship
> > > over those immigrants who obey our immigration laws.
>
> > > This is nothing more than a bribe to garnish votes.
>
> > > The Hill
> > > <http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/126691-reid-promises...>
> > > reports:
>
> > > *Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) vowed on Spanish-language
> > > television to bring the DREAM Act back for a vote in the lame-duck session.*
>
> > > On the Univision program "Al Punto," Reid was repeatedly hammered by host
> > > Jorge Ramos on whether the vote would happen, win or lose on Tuesday.
>
> > > "The answer is yes," Reid said.
>
> > > "I have the right to do that, you know, I have the right to bring that up
> > > any time I want, that's why I brought it up the first time," he said. "I am
> > > a believer in our needing to do something. ... We all support the DREAM Act.
> > > I just need a handful of Republicans to help me."
>
> > > Of the lack of Republican support he's received on the DREAM Act or
> > > comprehensive immigration reform, Reid said, "They want to keep talking
> > > about this issue, and I say it's demagoguery in its worst fashion and is
> > > unfair to the Hispanic community."
>
> > > What's unfair is asking the American taxpayers to continue footing the bill
> > > for the burden illegal immigrants put upon our education, legal, health care
> > > and welfare systems.
>
> > > Reid said he was doing "fine" in his midterm campaign and "our polling is
> > > right where we want it to be."
>
> > > "We believe that the Republicans know where we are, and that's why my
> > > opponent's been so desperate doing some things that have been very, very,
> > > very mean spirited," he said.
>
> > > *He denounced Sharron Angle's ads, including one calling Reid "the best
> > > friend an illegal alien ever had," to be "totally without fact or
> > > foundation... some people have said they're racists; others can draw their
> > > own conclusion."*
>
> > > Typical Democrat using the racism card. I guess the majority of Americans
> > > are racist since they want our immigration laws
> > >enforced<http://www.gallup.com/poll/22408/halting-flow-americans-illegal-immig...>
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