all benefits, rights, protection of tangible and intangible properties; again with a few documents, I can remedy, fix, guarantee, make right, and protect.
A couple years ago, a lesbian couple and their children were about to take a Caribbean cruise leaving from Miami. They had all the necessary paperwork with them - power of attorney, health care, "Civil Union," etc. One woman became ill and was hospitalized. The partner and children were denied any contact with the patient because they were deemed non-relative. The partner presented all the documentation and she was told "You're in Florida now." When the woman died, it was without the physical presence and emotional comfort of her family.
If two metals can be married, why can't two people? Who officiates? Must it be performed in a House of Worship? Do the metals need a marriage license beforehand and get a certificate after the ceremony?
If "marriage" is a religious rite, how come it requires a license from the government? How come certain people are allowed to practice a marriage rite and others are refused the right to the rite?
Is a common law marriage from one state recognized in all the other states? Would a utility bill in both names be acceptable as proof? What if opposite gender roommates have recreational carnal knowledge, are they considered married?
The way many heterosexuals do it, holy matrimony with its vows (until death do us part) seems to be the first step to divorce. Similar to washing hair, they repeat the sacred ritual.
From: Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 6:25:36 AM
Subject: Re: Gay marriage support knocks 3 Iowa justices off the bench after spiteful campaign against them
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A couple years ago, a lesbian couple and their children were about to take a Caribbean cruise leaving from Miami. They had all the necessary paperwork with them - power of attorney, health care, "Civil Union," etc. One woman became ill and was hospitalized. The partner and children were denied any contact with the patient because they were deemed non-relative. The partner presented all the documentation and she was told "You're in Florida now." When the woman died, it was without the physical presence and emotional comfort of her family.
If two metals can be married, why can't two people? Who officiates? Must it be performed in a House of Worship? Do the metals need a marriage license beforehand and get a certificate after the ceremony?
If "marriage" is a religious rite, how come it requires a license from the government? How come certain people are allowed to practice a marriage rite and others are refused the right to the rite?
Is a common law marriage from one state recognized in all the other states? Would a utility bill in both names be acceptable as proof? What if opposite gender roommates have recreational carnal knowledge, are they considered married?
The way many heterosexuals do it, holy matrimony with its vows (until death do us part) seems to be the first step to divorce. Similar to washing hair, they repeat the sacred ritual.
From: Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com>
To: politicalforum@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 6:25:36 AM
Subject: Re: Gay marriage support knocks 3 Iowa justices off the bench after spiteful campaign against them
Other than your support for "Gay Marriage", I tend to agree with you Greg. We have discussed this a good bit here, (you were hanging out across the street when we did...<Grin>!) but in a nutshell, the only thing that I could not change for two individuals who choose to cohabitate as a couple; today, as the laws currently are, with just a few documents, is the Federal Tax Code.
Other than that, all benefits, rights, protection of tangible and intangible properties; again with a few documents, I can remedy, fix, guarantee, make right, and protect.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 9:19 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
I happen to support gay marriage. I also live in Massachusetts, where
it was the courts that validated gay marriage too (but our judges are
not elected). For the record, it was DEMOCRATS who shat themselves
over that ruling, and attempted to change the state constitution to
overrule it.
The real issue is that states acknowledging gay marriage is basically
meaningless until the fed does, and the fed does NOT. 4 years of a
dem congress, 2 of which with a dem president, and the ever so
tolerant ones haven't lifted a finger on DOMA - a dem law as well -
and that includes Massachusetts' very own, and proudly gay, Barney
Frank.
Right here, we have Dean Hara, married to former congressman Gerry
Studds (D-MA). Gerry died. Dean applied for his pension and benefits
from his departed spouse. The fed said, "Not a fucking dime, you were
never married".
And Barney and his tolerant friends are still mum.
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