Re: Rolling Stones reporter shocked that his story caused Gen McChrystal to lose his jobs

Never saw any contempt for the men by bush nor did we see any contempt for Bush by the men.   But that is evading the question of the contempt for the men by this president.   He is doing nothing to get us out of Bush's wars responsibly and safely.   In fact, he has amped up the wars by invading our ally without permission with his drones and all the while he occupies an office that the men are supposed to respect.   They may respect the office but how can you expect the men to respect the man who will not respect them.   Makes no sense but then most of your ad hominens make so sense nor have anything to do with the subject.   BTW how is the closing of Gitmo and the leaving Iraq going.  That was supposed to happen within a year and it has gone on for almost 2 so far with no end in sight.   Only thing he has talked about is moving the Gitmo people to other facilities here where the people do not want them and that was dropped also.    The man is flailing around and has not a clue and here you are trying to tell us that he is using his super duper powers to get us out of the wars responsibly and safely.   He has not done anything responsibly in his whole career and you think he is doing this responsibly?   That is really funny!

euwe wrote:

Contempt for Bush isn't ok, though, right? Even though he was an ignoramus who got men killed because of his ignorance, arrogance and incompetence. But Obama, because he's trying to get us out of Bush's wars responsibly and safely, gets no respect, even for the office he occupies, and what it represents.  On Jun 25, 1:49 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:   

And that pertains to the story the reporter wrote in what way?   In the first place McChrystal had not mocked Obama and the civilian leadeership.  That was all in the mind of the reporter.  What this does is leave it up to the reporters to have the final say on what they can say and do to the senior military.   Ethics and truth telling have nothing to do with it.   A reporter can just make shit up and bring down the senior military.  The other point is that McChrystal's contempt and his remarks were not McChrystal's contempt and McChrystal's remarks so the whole basis for what Gates said is false to begin with.    The contempt for this particular CIC by the uniformed leadership would be totally understandable since we already know his contempt for them.   This is like when Bubba was in office and so many top military retired and we already know Bubba's contempt for the military.   Hillary's too.   She tried to make the senior military assigned to the WH come to work in civilian clothes because she did not want to see uniforms around the joint.  And she said this to the top AF general assigned to the WH.   Now we have a current administration where the commanding general in a war has to wait 4 months to go over the policies and even then the president grants him a 20 minute slot and then goes on to Paris to have a "Date Night" with FLOTUS.   That rather tells you how the president regards the military and the men and women fighting for the country.  I would have contempt for him under the circumstances as well.    euwe wrote:     

Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, left for Afghanistan yesterday to ease the concerns of field commanders over Obama's sacking of McChrystal and Petraeus' succession.       

Earlier, Mullen joined Secretary of Defense Robert Gates at the Pentagon in agreeing that McChrystal had to go after mocking Obama and the civilian leadership in a stunning Rolling Stone magazine article.       

"Honestly, when I first read it, I was nearly sick," Mullen said of the magazine piece. "I couldn't believe it."       

Gates said that McChrystal's remarks made his position "untenable." But he stressed that McChrystal's contempt for the chain of command was not typical of the top uniformed leadership.       

"This is an anomaly, not a systemic problem," Gates said.       

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/06/25/2010-06-25_uh_abo...       

On Jun 25, 4:26 am, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:       

I guess the guy never heard of chain of command, and the phrase "officer and a gentleman."         

On Jun 24, 12:15 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:         

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/06/24/2010-06-24_mcchry...           

Just what did the reporter think would happen when a touchy egomaniac like Bambi read what the reporter wrote.   Guess he didn't think at all.