Wednesday, May 9, 2012

**JP** Fwd: PTI IRI POLL AND PTI STRATEGY .


Subject: PTI IRI POLL AND PTI STRATEGY .

PTI IRI POLL AND STRATEGY FOR VOTE . PTI popularity is incredible But still PTI need lot of constructive Work to do in most parts of Pakistan Like situation in Layyari our leadership Must find the proper way to go on ground through some Bloch and Sind PTI leaders there Mianwali /KPK /Punjab COMMUNITY IN AAGRA TAJ MOST TRANSPORTATION JUNCTION NEAR LAYYARI to meet with Layyari leadership to show the solidarity and it's time to assure people's of Layyari only PTI is the only party who will take Pakistan out of crisis and fight for every one equal rights regardless the ethnicity or religion creed etc. Bhutto family killed by enemy of Pakistan and enemy of state and Asif Zardari had played central role for monopoly over PPP and Sind. Further Zardari and Ahmad Karzi have same agenda they are fare from humanity . KARACHI : most Punjab and Pakhtuns strong hold where PMLN and ANP POPULARITY is low and PTI is most favorite at this time PTI leadership must not ignore those area in Karachi Kala pul , mehmoidabad ,chanasir goth, Qayyumabad, pathon colony Dehlli colony, muhajjir camp, shershah colony,Nathakhan goth ,Sadar , Golimar , many other. Urdu speaking : where most people are very patriotic visionary community Are loyal to PTI I grow up in multicultural most peoples are from Karachi are loving and want lives in peace and want to see developed and strong Pakistan PTI leadership must mark those areas For winning election . SIND : we must ask shah Mehmood Qurashi and Pir Paghra family or many others to play their role in internal Sind PTI need lot of work to win seat . KPK and Hazara Evaluation again and again even most independent ( A ZAD) candidate's who has bank Vote in their consituancies to join party for some reason still waiting they should be in contact by PTI LEADERSHIP which im sure with the each provincial candidates I knew fews but most will Vote for PTI . PTI leadership keep in mind either way we will need them if no sweep . PTI may need those seat for the government, we pretty sure at this time most people's want to vote and support new political part and PTI IS NO-1 no Question about that but PTI leadership must prepare for every thing could happen. BLOCHISTAN : most strong tribes and people's to gain support and strategy to bring people's to the voting poll . PTI need to do lot of work and plan for internal areas in Sind and BLOCHISTAN . Are they have plan if not then CEC should prepare them and give them task and logistic . FATA : strong tribes and candidate need to be involved whose have all ability to assure PTI voter their rights and safety bring on polling day . Are they ready ? PTI must question their candidates . Swat and Chittral. need to befocuse Upper Muzaffarabad Kashmir area . PTI upper leadership should separately visits those area . It's time to move every one for vote and support and make plan. Brigadier Samson Sharif Is asset of PTI He can play tremendous role in minority With the support of other minority leaders in 4 provinces and specially In Punjab Sind and Karachi to reach out the Christian brothers and sisters Ever one is most patriotic and loyal of Pakistan and I'm sure they want to see Imran khan as leader of Pakistan . I will say don't ignore those vote . I will request CEC to give special role to Brig: Samson Sharif Sb . Upper and lower Hazara Must Find the experience politician of course People's with vote bank and his past and present reputation and character . We must not still ignore the cultural politics and brothrisms . PTI is the only hope of 18 Crore PTI leadership must take every step carefully of course they will ! PTI can get lot of financial support From overseas Pakistani community If IA have good team and leadership In every country . PTI must spread and make 5 candidate For every overseas country to deal the situation and gain the financially support and vote bank by affectively PTI gain more popularity in overseas Pakistani but,Overseas Pak-Community  way of work and  way of thinkings are  little different then  those  people's lives in Pakistan Most of them like transparency In their work or efforts they made For country , But few opportunists ruin those effort and most people's get dishearten To save PTI interest CEC must Take personal interest and organize the Committees immediately REASON NO -1 IS! PTI have great financial and research wings and  support from overseas Pakistani. its very concerning and important for Pakistan Tehreek e Insaf  leadership to reevaluate the party structure and find the best Candidate's on every seat's national and senate upper and lower house. 
PTI Chairman must demand fast and fair Election ASAP" Supreme court and Chief of Army staff should focus on internal& external situation instead silence audience setting in office's must warn the government and president Zardari its time to get serious and prepare nation for fair election or get ready for the serious consequence , peoples of Pakistan running out of patience because of unbearable burden of inflation ,lawlessness , deprived from all necessity of life , In this situation PTI Imran khan is hope of 18 crore which is big challenge for PTI leadership as Imran khan call" change"    are PTI is prepared ? to face all the challenges , peoples will VOte and support will elect 
Imran khan for the Office , soon after peoples need positive result because of the ill economy and inflation peoples will not wait long enough our illiteracy is high and opposition will try to fail PTI no matter what .

Aslam Khan
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Re: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS

It's time to come out 
Don't wait for any leader or politicians 
One every one will make it habit on daily bases until then continue the protest In every  district village and city nationwide 
People's of Pakistan hijack by few thousand politicians and beauracrates some Army generals had paralysis the whole nation.
People's of Pakistan has to help there selves . Otherwise election if transparent !!   Election  should held under  the arm force supervision and international watch dog .
Thats the solution if every political party take serious also understand the situation of people's and about the country .
Both are  standing on the edge of danger level  in this case any thing could happen , 
It may patrician , bloodiest war among provinces , civil war  , bloodiest revolution could happen in any case ! 
Poor  nation has to pay big price !
But these culprits will pay biggest price and their situation will be same as it happened to Saddam family and Mohamar Qaddafi family as Hussani Mubarak family .
Those beauracracy will drown into the see.
It's time to wakeup .
Protest is the only solution until people's until then bear all burden brothers and sisters, it's time to take out the culprits out of thief palaces and parliament and governors  houses .
People's  of Pakistan have to decide !
Save Pakistan and save yours future .
It's already too late but last chance .
Aslam khan





Khan

On May 9, 2012, at 3:46 AM, Man United <mnf132@hotmail.com> wrote:




Dear Khalid,
 
thank you very much for your comment.  very very well said. 
 
Kuch Din Phele Hamare Elaqe mein load shedding kuch ziyada hoi to mera dimagh kharaab hoa aur gali mein nikal Aaya aur logon ko pukarney laga ke "NIKLO GHARON SE JAB TAK GHARON SE NAHIN NIKLO GE BAAT NAHIN BANE GE" .  But no one came.  I tried alot but invaine.  THIS PAKISTANI NATION IS SLEEPING FOR DECADES.  Help us ALLAH Save us ALLAH
 
 
 
Mansoor 


 

Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 06:11:20 -0700
From: mmsaeed19@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

Dear Friends,

Thanks for your suggestion to bring awareness in public, but what is taught from the last four years regime of PPP that this nation does not want to be wake up.  They are busy in their own interests and financial problems which does not allow them to see in their surroundings, in their localities, cities or provincially.

YEH QAUM SO RAHI HAI, KAFI MUSHAQQAT KI HAI IN LOGO NE JAMHOORIAT KO HUKUMAT DILANAY MEIN....

AB YEH US JAMHOORIAT K SAMARAAT SE MUSTAFEED HO RAHE HAIN.... YEH SIRF ELECTION K DINO ME JAGAY GI AUR VOTE DE KE PHIR SO JAYEGI AGLAY 5 SAAL K LIYE.

INKE BIWI BACHAY MAR GAYE BHOOK SE MAGR BHUTTO AAJ BHI ZINDA HAI, BIBI TU ZINDA HAI K NAARAY LAGANAY SE FURSAT NAHI HAI. YEH TO HAIN RURAL AREAS K LOG... AB BAAT KAREN KUCH URBAN AREAS KI JAISAY KARACHI....

DAILY STREET CRIMES HO RAHE HAIN, UN ME DIN BA DIN IZAFA HO RAHA HAI... BHATTA KHORI, UROOJ PER HAI, TARGET KILLINGS SE KOI SAFE NAHI...... LOAD SHEDDING BARHTI JA RAHI HAI, FACTORIES BAND HO RAHI HAIN, BUSINESS DOSRAY COUNTRIES SHIFT HO RAHA HAI, JOBLESS HONAY KI WAJA SE CRIME RATIO BARH RAHA HAI, MAGR NAARAY WOHI LAG RAHE HAIN....HAMAIN MANZIL NAHI LEADER CHAHIYE.....

YEH QAUM NAHI BALKAY INSANO KA MAJMA HAI....QAUM ME SHA'OOR HOTA HAI .... IN ME TAU APNE ACHAY BURAY KA FARQ KARNE KI BHI PEHNCHAN NAHI HAI..... YEH SIRF NUMBERS HAIN ... JIN KA KAAM VOTE DALNA AUR PHIR 5 SAAL TAK AANAY WALI HUKUMAT K KHILAF GHAR ME, DUKAN ME, OFFICE ME BETH KAR BURAIYAN KARNA HAI.....

JAISAY HUM LOG IS WAQT KAR RAHE HAIN....MAGR AAP KISI KO KAHO K BAHAR NIKLO APNE HUQOOQ MANGO KOI NAHI AYEGA.
SAB MASROOF HAIN, PAISA BANANAY ME.....


From: Khalid Javed <kjaved@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS

The PTI's strategy to mobilise and focus on the youth will work well in urban areas where they can influence their elders' opinions, but not villages where majority of youth are uneducated and under stronger parental influence, being more traditional society. Also voting is more influenced by powerful land mafias, religious linkages, and brathery traditions. Men like Shah Mahmood Qureshi can be of great help in developing the policy approach.

May be there the party will have to indoctrinate local revolutionary ideologues to lead local campaigns to work on the rural population. It is much tougher challenge than the urban areas. A lot of thought has to go into it.


Khalid Javed



 

ongOn Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Man United <mnf132@hotmail.com> wrote:


KALMA_SHAREEF.JPG
 
 Dear All
 
As we all knows about the performance of PPP and its so called allied parties,  we pakistani are their slaves at the moment.  These Mafias objective is to get votes to rule Pakistan NOT TO SERVE PAKISTAN.
 
For the upcoming general election, they have started their preparations. 
 
*  They have spent Billions and get vast majority in Senate.
*  Deployed and transfer their party workers with excellent benefits on government positions.
*  They are feeding their workers by providing them sufficent amount and benefits.  Result is that the greedy workers will cut their heads for his Mafia party in upcoming elections.     Simple Formula is that Worker Happy = Party Happy and Party Happy = To make government easy.
*  On the other hand ANP, MQM and PML-Q providing Oxygen (Support) to PPP, and if it continues till upcoming general elections,  PPP will be again the ruling party. and their will be "No change".
*  PPP the largest political Qabza Mafia and World Champion of Corruption.
 
 
PTI should start their compaign in villages as well before general elections becoz they Qabza Mafias target innocent villagers and get maximum NA seats and Provinicial Assembly seats from those areas.  AN EXTRA ORDINARY AWARNESS PROGRAMME FOR VILLAGERS TO GET POSITIVE RESULTS. 
 
i M OPEN FOR THE DEBATE AND IF I FORGET TO MENTION OTHER GREY AREAS THEN PLZ ADD TO THIS EMAIL AND FORWARD IT.  
 
PLZ DO NOT ADD ABUSE FOR ANYONE OR PARTY,  WE WILL MAKE CHANGE.  
 
WITH BEST REGARDS FROM PESHAWAR
 
 
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Fwd: [LA-F] US self-defence expert banned from entering UK



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This story just goes to show that our government does NOT want us to be
able to defend ourselves in our own homes. They would prefer we stay
helpless and sitting ducks and pay the filth to work out what happened
so they can convict the victim!

After donkeys years of Ju-Jitsu I know how to inflict pain on people.
Come to think of it the filth learn some of this stuff too so they can
inflict great pain on their victims.

***********

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18002220

An American expert in violent self-defence has been excluded from
entering the UK by the Home Office.

Tim Larkin tried to board a plane from his home in Las Vegas on Tuesday,
but was given a UK Border Agency letter saying "his presence here was
not conducive to the public good".

Mr Larkin, who was due to host seminars, told the BBC the move was a
"gross over-reaction".

The Home Office said he was subject to an exclusion order.

A spokeswoman said: "The home secretary will seek to exclude an
individual if she considers that his or her presence in the UK is not
conducive to the public good."

Mr Larkin - who trained as a US Navy Seal - runs a company teaching
combat to military and law enforcement clients in the United States.

'Black swan occasions'
He teaches self-defence techniques, which according to his own website,
are designed to inflict "crippling pain" to an attacker, and claims
violence is "your ultimate survival tool".

Mr Larkin had been invited to be a keynote speaker at The Martial Arts
Show conference in Birmingham on 12 and 13 May, and to hold a seminar in
Tottenham.

Both areas were targeted by rioters last August.

Mr Larkin told BBC Radio 4 he believed he was being excluded for
criticising Britain's self-defence laws.

"I am not advocating that the UK should be like the US. What am
advocating is that the UK should go back to laws it had, prior to 1920."

But Mr Larkin insisted there was "nothing outrageous" about his views,
and his intention in visiting the UK, was not to incite "violence".

"This is not being a vigilante. You are sitting in your house and you're
being attacked, or you're attacked out in the street... There's an awful
lot of martial arts and self defence being taught there right now that
gives no instruction on [how to hurt] the human body.

He continued: "There are those rare, rare black swan occasions - like
the riots - where law-abiding citizens are put in situations where they
are facing grievous bodily harm and they hesitate because they are
afraid of being prosecuted. That is a very real thing."

Mr Larkin claims he has a lot of support in the UK, and he says he may
appeal to MPs.

A visit in 2009 to Slough, in Berkshire, where Mr Larkin held a class
intended to teach how to "maim and kill in self-defence", provoked
widespread condemnation from the community.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18002220

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RE: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS




Dear Khalid,
 
thank you very much for your comment.  very very well said. 
 
Kuch Din Phele Hamare Elaqe mein load shedding kuch ziyada hoi to mera dimagh kharaab hoa aur gali mein nikal Aaya aur logon ko pukarney laga ke "NIKLO GHARON SE JAB TAK GHARON SE NAHIN NIKLO GE BAAT NAHIN BANE GE" .  But no one came.  I tried alot but invaine.  THIS PAKISTANI NATION IS SLEEPING FOR DECADES.  Help us ALLAH Save us ALLAH
 
 
 
Mansoor 


 

Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 06:11:20 -0700
From: mmsaeed19@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com

Dear Friends,

Thanks for your suggestion to bring awareness in public, but what is taught from the last four years regime of PPP that this nation does not want to be wake up.  They are busy in their own interests and financial problems which does not allow them to see in their surroundings, in their localities, cities or provincially.

YEH QAUM SO RAHI HAI, KAFI MUSHAQQAT KI HAI IN LOGO NE JAMHOORIAT KO HUKUMAT DILANAY MEIN....

AB YEH US JAMHOORIAT K SAMARAAT SE MUSTAFEED HO RAHE HAIN.... YEH SIRF ELECTION K DINO ME JAGAY GI AUR VOTE DE KE PHIR SO JAYEGI AGLAY 5 SAAL K LIYE.

INKE BIWI BACHAY MAR GAYE BHOOK SE MAGR BHUTTO AAJ BHI ZINDA HAI, BIBI TU ZINDA HAI K NAARAY LAGANAY SE FURSAT NAHI HAI. YEH TO HAIN RURAL AREAS K LOG... AB BAAT KAREN KUCH URBAN AREAS KI JAISAY KARACHI....

DAILY STREET CRIMES HO RAHE HAIN, UN ME DIN BA DIN IZAFA HO RAHA HAI... BHATTA KHORI, UROOJ PER HAI, TARGET KILLINGS SE KOI SAFE NAHI...... LOAD SHEDDING BARHTI JA RAHI HAI, FACTORIES BAND HO RAHI HAIN, BUSINESS DOSRAY COUNTRIES SHIFT HO RAHA HAI, JOBLESS HONAY KI WAJA SE CRIME RATIO BARH RAHA HAI, MAGR NAARAY WOHI LAG RAHE HAIN....HAMAIN MANZIL NAHI LEADER CHAHIYE.....

YEH QAUM NAHI BALKAY INSANO KA MAJMA HAI....QAUM ME SHA'OOR HOTA HAI .... IN ME TAU APNE ACHAY BURAY KA FARQ KARNE KI BHI PEHNCHAN NAHI HAI..... YEH SIRF NUMBERS HAIN ... JIN KA KAAM VOTE DALNA AUR PHIR 5 SAAL TAK AANAY WALI HUKUMAT K KHILAF GHAR ME, DUKAN ME, OFFICE ME BETH KAR BURAIYAN KARNA HAI.....

JAISAY HUM LOG IS WAQT KAR RAHE HAIN....MAGR AAP KISI KO KAHO K BAHAR NIKLO APNE HUQOOQ MANGO KOI NAHI AYEGA.
SAB MASROOF HAIN, PAISA BANANAY ME.....


From: Khalid Javed <kjaved@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 7, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** PPP AND OTHER POLITICAL MAFIAS

The PTI's strategy to mobilise and focus on the youth will work well in urban areas where they can influence their elders' opinions, but not villages where majority of youth are uneducated and under stronger parental influence, being more traditional society. Also voting is more influenced by powerful land mafias, religious linkages, and brathery traditions. Men like Shah Mahmood Qureshi can be of great help in developing the policy approach.

May be there the party will have to indoctrinate local revolutionary ideologues to lead local campaigns to work on the rural population. It is much tougher challenge than the urban areas. A lot of thought has to go into it.


Khalid Javed



 

ongOn Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Man United <mnf132@hotmail.com> wrote:


KALMA_SHAREEF.JPG
 
 Dear All
 
As we all knows about the performance of PPP and its so called allied parties,  we pakistani are their slaves at the moment.  These Mafias objective is to get votes to rule Pakistan NOT TO SERVE PAKISTAN.
 
For the upcoming general election, they have started their preparations. 
 
*  They have spent Billions and get vast majority in Senate.
*  Deployed and transfer their party workers with excellent benefits on government positions.
*  They are feeding their workers by providing them sufficent amount and benefits.  Result is that the greedy workers will cut their heads for his Mafia party in upcoming elections.     Simple Formula is that Worker Happy = Party Happy and Party Happy = To make government easy.
*  On the other hand ANP, MQM and PML-Q providing Oxygen (Support) to PPP, and if it continues till upcoming general elections,  PPP will be again the ruling party. and their will be "No change".
*  PPP the largest political Qabza Mafia and World Champion of Corruption.
 
 
PTI should start their compaign in villages as well before general elections becoz they Qabza Mafias target innocent villagers and get maximum NA seats and Provinicial Assembly seats from those areas.  AN EXTRA ORDINARY AWARNESS PROGRAMME FOR VILLAGERS TO GET POSITIVE RESULTS. 
 
i M OPEN FOR THE DEBATE AND IF I FORGET TO MENTION OTHER GREY AREAS THEN PLZ ADD TO THIS EMAIL AND FORWARD IT.  
 
PLZ DO NOT ADD ABUSE FOR ANYONE OR PARTY,  WE WILL MAKE CHANGE.  
 
WITH BEST REGARDS FROM PESHAWAR
 
 
Mansoor

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Re: T-Partycons Encounter the Paulians

This is but one example of why Ron Paul supporters are scary.  They are cultish......They don't play well with others......They fail to see the flaws within their own candidate, and look upon him with this God-Like quality.   Many of them tend to draw ranks with Moonbats.  (e.g.; "T-Party-Cons"?  Come On!)
 
Yep.....These are the things that cause most libertarians,  conservatives and just Plain Old Americans with common sense to stop and say, "WTF"?
 
It's hard to join ranks with crazy folks......
 
 
 


 
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T-Partycons Encounter the Paulians
Posted on May 8, 2012 by LHR, Jr.

Lots of meat in this very interesting article by Adam Sparks, "Rationally Defending Ron Paul: Detractors and Supporters Beware." I like, among much else, his description of a TP org, which has backed Christine O'Donnell, Sharron Angle, and Scott Brown, meeting the Ron Paulians in Austin. It was a rally for Republican senate candidate Ted Cruz, but naturally people came to see Ron:

It's not surprising, then, that it takes a certain skill to whip a Ron Paul rally into a frenzy. So if you're looking to please a crowd of a couple thousand people holding Ron Paul signs in front of the Texas Capital and don't know exactly what to say, here's a start: Don't just stand there bashing Barack Obama. Paul supporters have bigger fish to fry.
Last Sunday, Ron Paul was back in Austin headlining a Tea Party rally on the steps of the Capitol. Paul's supporters launched the Tea Party movement back in the 2008 election cycle, but, by the 2010 midterm elections, the [Tea] Party (or at least a large segment of it) had been co-opted by the traditional right.
Amy Kremer, spokesperson for the Tea Party Express ­ which was organizing Sunday's rally ­ and one of the emcees for the event, rattled off the traditional Tea Party rhetoric (Obama is evil, Obama sucks, Obamacare is an unconscionable travesty). The crowd was almost comically un-enthused by her tired Republican talking points; by the end of her speech, Kremer couldn't go a minute without the crowd erupting into chants of "Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul!"
As a general rule in life, you should do everything in your power not to rub Ron Paul supporters the wrong way. This can occur A) at rallies where Dr. Paul is to speak, and B) on the Internet, which, if comment boards are to be trusted, is populated entirely by Paul diehards.
Amy Kremer made the first mistake, fighting against the tide when all everyone really wanted to do was chant "End the Fed!"

Read it all.

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