Saturday, June 19, 2010

Re: Death Knell of America: Carbon Tax on the Global Warming Hoax

Why do you hate the earth?

On Jun 19, 7:32 am, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  ------------------------------
>  Death Knell of America Allowing Obama and Congress to Pass the Carbon Tax
> on the Global Warming Hoax
>
>  *By* *Jerry McConnell*  Friday, June 18, 2010
>
> Our blood-sucking liberal Democrat Congress, with the obvious urging of the
> Dictator-in-the-Wings B.H Obama, is showing their desperation at the
> prospects of annihilation at the polls this coming November.
>
> These panicky worms have piled debt after debt after debt on our backs with
> their unbelievably arrogant and unintelligent forays into the Treasury of
> our country with their spend, spend, spend programs that may have been a tad
> acceptable had only one major drain been foisted on the ever-worried tax
> payer; but no, one was not enough, they kept wanting MORE, MORE, MORE with
> their nonsensical bail out programs, their insane (non) Stimulus programs,
> the back-breaking ObamaCare health program until they have us taxpayers on
> our knees BEGGING their indulgence to spare us even more heavy debt and tax
> burdens.
>
> And now even after the country, including some of their former allies and
> supporters screaming ENOUGH, ENOUGH, these vicious anti-Americans that would
> drown us all in a sea of red ink just to be able to win in the upcoming
> elections through the sheer bludgeoning of us, want to pass the odious and
> corrupted global warming bill, renamed to make it sound more acceptable, to
> Cap and Trade; another farcical misnamed piece of dung designed mainly to do
> ONE thing – CAUSE MORE DEBT AND MUCH, MUCH HIGHER TAXES.
>
> And why, you ask, would they do this thing right now when the country is
> devastated with a financial crisis of our southern coast due to the gigantic
> in volume and in financial losses as well, oil spill crisis.  This is one of
> the Rahm Emanuel "never waste a crisis" crisis, that can distract the
> public's eyes away from their dishonest manipulative mishandling of our tax
> money in the Treasury.
>
> They, meaning Emanuel, Obama, Reid, Pelosi and many other downright
> criminally dishonest thieves, all liberal Democrats, want to in effect,
> steal you blind to finance the upcoming elections in November that is the
> only thing that can put the fear of God in them.  They will do ANYTHING,
> legal or illegal, moral or immoral, honest or dishonest with emphasis on the
> second word of the pairs just shown to retain their power of majority in the
> worst, most inefficient and the absolutely most corrupt and dishonest
> Congress the country has ever experienced.
>
> These despicable corrupted thieves led by the greatly endangered for
> reelection Senator Harry Reid, (D-NV) are driving all their muscle and wits
> to get this bunch of cohorts in crime, liberal Democrat accomplices to pass
> the so-called "Carbon Tax"; AKA, "Global Warming Hoax" before they adjourn
> for their summer vacation before the Fourth of July.
>
> They want to ram it through before you realize what they're up to and how
> VERY MUCH it will cost you in increased taxes.  I am not kidding when I say
> that a gallon of gas will rise to the $6 to $8 dollar a gallon if this
> energy tax program that they are pushing under the guise that it will
> benefit our environment.  That is pure B.S. in capital letters.  This money
> that will come in from the exorbitant taxes on ALL energy items such as your
> electricity bill, your heating and cooling oil and electric bill and ALL
> your food items that go through the processing and distribution channels
> consuming high amounts of energy, will all skyrocket beyond the levels of
> sanity for the average person.
>
> Do YOU want to see this country drop to its knees begging for food and other
> meager daily needs just to keep this bunch of lying, cheating and good for
> nothing liberals in charge of this country?  Do you want to see armies of
> groups like ACORN performing police duties in your neighborhood at the
> direction of the liberals who are fighting desperately to stay in control?
>
> That's what you're going to get if you let your Congressman or woman or your
> Senator pass this Cap and Trade Energy Carbon Tax bill.  You have already
> seen the damage this corrupt Congress led by liberals can do in a short
> amount of time; can you handle any more.  The tax bills for the damages
> already done haven't yet begun to show as they have been deliberately
> deferred in order to pile more on before you get wise.
>
> Trust me people, this new tax the liberals want to foist on us for the big
> lie that is known as GLOBAL WARMING, will be the beginning of the end for
> life as we have known it in America.  Obama and his Bilderberg friends that
> desire total control over our country will blitz us into an eternal dark
> corner cannibalizing each other just to survive. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO GET
> IT DONE BEFORE JULY 4TH.
>
> Not a very pretty picture is it?  But it's what will be coming if this Cap
> and Trade energy Carbon Tax is passed.  WE DON'T NEED IT AND CAN'T AFFORD
> IT. You can bet your life on that.
>
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Death Knell of America: Carbon Tax on the Global Warming Hoax










Death Knell of America

Allowing Obama and Congress to Pass the Carbon Tax on the Global Warming Hoax

 By Jerry McConnell  Friday, June 18, 2010

Our blood-sucking liberal Democrat Congress, with the obvious urging of the Dictator-in-the-Wings B.H Obama, is showing their desperation at the prospects of annihilation at the polls this coming November.

These panicky worms have piled debt after debt after debt on our backs with their unbelievably arrogant and unintelligent forays into the Treasury of our country with their spend, spend, spend programs that may have been a tad acceptable had only one major drain been foisted on the ever-worried tax payer; but no, one was not enough, they kept wanting MORE, MORE, MORE with their nonsensical bail out programs, their insane (non) Stimulus programs, the back-breaking ObamaCare health program until they have us taxpayers on our knees BEGGING their indulgence to spare us even more heavy debt and tax burdens.

And now even after the country, including some of their former allies and supporters screaming ENOUGH, ENOUGH, these vicious anti-Americans that would drown us all in a sea of red ink just to be able to win in the upcoming elections through the sheer bludgeoning of us, want to pass the odious and corrupted global warming bill, renamed to make it sound more acceptable, to Cap and Trade; another farcical misnamed piece of dung designed mainly to do ONE thing – CAUSE MORE DEBT AND MUCH, MUCH HIGHER TAXES.

And why, you ask, would they do this thing right now when the country is devastated with a financial crisis of our southern coast due to the gigantic in volume and in financial losses as well, oil spill crisis.  This is one of the Rahm Emanuel "never waste a crisis" crisis, that can distract the public's eyes away from their dishonest manipulative mishandling of our tax money in the Treasury.

They, meaning Emanuel, Obama, Reid, Pelosi and many other downright criminally dishonest thieves, all liberal Democrats, want to in effect, steal you blind to finance the upcoming elections in November that is the only thing that can put the fear of God in them.  They will do ANYTHING, legal or illegal, moral or immoral, honest or dishonest with emphasis on the second word of the pairs just shown to retain their power of majority in the worst, most inefficient and the absolutely most corrupt and dishonest Congress the country has ever experienced.

These despicable corrupted thieves led by the greatly endangered for reelection Senator Harry Reid, (D-NV) are driving all their muscle and wits to get this bunch of cohorts in crime, liberal Democrat accomplices to pass the so-called "Carbon Tax"; AKA, "Global Warming Hoax" before they adjourn for their summer vacation before the Fourth of July.

They want to ram it through before you realize what they're up to and how VERY MUCH it will cost you in increased taxes.  I am not kidding when I say that a gallon of gas will rise to the $6 to $8 dollar a gallon if this energy tax program that they are pushing under the guise that it will benefit our environment.  That is pure B.S. in capital letters.  This money that will come in from the exorbitant taxes on ALL energy items such as your electricity bill, your heating and cooling oil and electric bill and ALL your food items that go through the processing and distribution channels consuming high amounts of energy, will all skyrocket beyond the levels of sanity for the average person.

Do YOU want to see this country drop to its knees begging for food and other meager daily needs just to keep this bunch of lying, cheating and good for nothing liberals in charge of this country?  Do you want to see armies of groups like ACORN performing police duties in your neighborhood at the direction of the liberals who are fighting desperately to stay in control?

That's what you're going to get if you let your Congressman or woman or your Senator pass this Cap and Trade Energy Carbon Tax bill.  You have already seen the damage this corrupt Congress led by liberals can do in a short amount of time; can you handle any more.  The tax bills for the damages already done haven't yet begun to show as they have been deliberately deferred in order to pile more on before you get wise.

Trust me people, this new tax the liberals want to foist on us for the big lie that is known as GLOBAL WARMING, will be the beginning of the end for life as we have known it in America.  Obama and his Bilderberg friends that desire total control over our country will blitz us into an eternal dark corner cannibalizing each other just to survive. THEY ARE DESPERATE TO GET IT DONE BEFORE JULY 4TH.

Not a very pretty picture is it?  But it's what will be coming if this Cap and Trade energy Carbon Tax is passed.  WE DON'T NEED IT AND CAN'T AFFORD IT. You can bet your life on that.

 


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Gagging on Green Garbage











Internet, The 'green movement' was to be the linchpin for global enslavement

Gagging on Green Garbage

 By Joseph A Olson, PE  Friday, June 18, 2010

As every hunter knows, it is the wounded beast that is the most dangerous.  Humanity is now witnessing the final death throes of a hidden, monopolistic power structure that has manipulated science, government and the media for their benefit for far too long.  The end of the second Dark Ages is now upon us.

We stand, like Dorothy, in our ruby slippers and tremble before the great, the powerful, the bellowing Oz.  Today's tale has the same cast of characters as that childhood fairy tale and, as the Good Witch of the North, I will identify all of these characters and their nefarious roles in today's final hours of this nightmare.

Dominating our journey for truth are the two forces of evil, the Wicked Witch of the West (WWW) and the pretended dichotomy of the Wicked Witch of the East (WWE).  The WWW is the monopolistic hegemony of our government-media complex, which orders their science servants to direct human energy in the direction of monopolists benefit.

The WWE is the communist slave state of China, who entered this power sharing pact to avoid certain destruction at the human urge for democracy during the Tiananmen Square uprising.  Together the monopolists have transferred the industrial base to empower their eastern allies and destroy the western democracies.  The only remaining power in the west is the power to manipulate the population with a tightly controlled media monopoly.

The 'green movement' was to be the linchpin for global enslavement

Our ruby slippers are the truth and the yearning for freedom.  The internet is the clicking of those blessed slippers.  The 'green movement' was to be the linchpin for global enslavement.  The 'greenies' are entirely funded by the monopolists to subvert the truth and defeat freedom.  Humanity has endured decades of this mindless assault.

This author's childhood was wasted in an abusive blue collar environment where a cheap set of encyclopedias was as much science as one should ever dream to have.  I resolved that as an adult I would indulge myself in the wide range on science literature, in particular my childhood favorites, Popular Science and Popular Mechanics.

As an adult subscriber to both of these pseudo-science periodicals, I must now admonish them both for their unbelievably partisan endorsement of the Green Garbage Orthodoxy.  Popular Mechanics is the yellow science stepchild of the great Hearst Publishing history of yellow journalism and disgusting advocacy.  William Randolph Hearst was in every way the disgusting a robber baron that Orson Wells portrayed him to be in his epic movie, Citizen Kane.  The Editorial Board of Advisors for PM includes the discredited greenie mouthpiece Gavin A Schmidt of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies. 

Popular Science was a Time Magazine property until January 2007 when it was purchased by the privately held Bonnier Group of Sweden.  Mark Jannot, the lame editor of this magazine admits in his July editorial that he is "a blinkered tech acolyte" and has a proven lack of objectivity with regards to the climate change issue.

The "East Anglia Event Horizon" occurred on Nov 19, 2009 and that day will live in infamy in the honest history of science.  Yet in the nine months since the 'Climate-Gate' disclosure there has NOT BEEN ONE MENTION of this event or any conflicting viewpoints to the AGW orthodoxy presented in Popular Science or Popular Mechanics.  Not a single letter to the editor in opposition, not a single mention of ANY other possible climate forcing factors.

This is not science, this is despicable political advocacy.  The July issues of both magazines are full cover spreads on the pending "Ecotopia" and the "Truth about Energy" and inside each are twenty pages of slick green garbage ready for public spoon feeding.  It doesn't matter if the spoon is an infant sized, rubber coated safety-spoon, this is still a spoon FULL OF CRAP.

An even greater evil is the Rothschild owned 'Reuters News Service' and their late 2009 acquisition, the 'Associated Press Newswire'.  Now the monopolistic nature of news is undeniable.  Now equally transparent is the faux democracy of the current political system.  Every presidential candidate for the last few decades has been a pre-selected and pre-approved puppet of the New World Order cabal.  When you own both horses in a horse race it is hard to lose, unless you pick a stallion with an uncontrollable libido.

World is Saved by Little Willy

William Jefferson Clinton was selected to aid the president and given a simple agenda, first pass government health care and then the Kyoto Climate Treaty.  Ever the silver-tongued slacker, Slick Willy delegated the health care issue to his acerbic spouse who hammered together in private a 'Hilary Knows Best Healthcare Proposal' that was soundly rejected.  The 'Clinton Climate Collapse' that followed was a completely unexpected blow for the monopolists.

The carefully crafted carbon caused climate hoax was to capitalize on the undisputed 30 year warming-cooling Earth cycle.  The 1996 approved Kyoto accord was to hit the US Congress in 1998, in time for the predictable heating maximum.  Then the government-media complex could alter temperature data and create hysteria for preventing climate change.  The draconian taxes would kick in at the same time as the natural 30 year cooling cycle, so our pain would be comforted because we were indeed, appearing to be saving the planet.

Sometimes it is the 'little things' that change history.  In this case it was Slick Willy's little Willy. Slick Willy surrendered to Little Willy whenever an oval office intern appeared.  Cast as either a chubby pizza delivery girl or the devil in the blue dress, one intern did change history.  All of the finger wagging denials in the world could not change the deposit that IS by definition, sex.  This NWO puppet then expended all of his political capital to remain in office while Kyoto languished on the sidelines.

This silver-tongued devil was then followed by the next NWO puppet, the silver-spoon pretend Texan.  This mental midget was soon mired in the mismanagement of two wars and was too distracted to push the climate tax on a wary public.  The next NWO puppets had the task of pushing the previous Clinton failures of health care and cap-and-tax.  This time we are firmly 10 years into the 30-year cooling cycle and the science community has been awakened by the Climate-Gate disclosures and the transparent failure of the warmist hypothesis. 

Say it Ain't so Joe

Now back to the wizard tale and humanity's character, played by Dorothy.  Our Dorothy has one curious companion, the claimed independent, Joe Lieberman.  This NWO bagman now has two pieces of legislation pending.  The Kerry-Lieberman 'American Power Act' is a deceitfully titled carbon tax to fulfill the Clinton failure.  The 'Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act' is a Lieberman bill to give complete control of the internet to the White House and DHS.

We must now choose the proper role for this turncoat.  Senator Lieberman, who renounced the corrupt Democratic party to represent dear Dorothy, must now decide.  Is Lieberman the character with straw for brains, the one with a hollow echo where his heart should be, or is he the coward hiding in the NWO shadow ? ? ?

As a true Texan, I distain the blogosphere bludgeoning of an unseen opponent.  As one Joe to another, Senator Joe Lieberman please subpoena me to Congress.  I would be glad to tell you face to face what a thoughtless, heartless, coward you really are.  You are a traitor to the truth, to the American people and to all humanity.  Maybe you are not Dorothy's companion after all.  Maybe you are just one of the hundreds of winged apes that pose as Congressional Representatives while they cater to the NWO and their K Street whores.  I'll contact your office to give the correct address for my Congressional subpoena.

 


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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

The EPA refuses to allow Dutch
skimmers in because they are not 100% efficient?
-------
Though they did not meet the EPA requirements, BP was the one that
said they didn't need them, and wouldn't pay for them.

On Jun 18, 9:33 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Life is more important than property.
>
> Very true but not applicable in this case. They shut the barges down
> because they couldn't confirm they had life vests and fire
> extinguishers. We're dealing with one of the greatest environmental
> disasters this country has ever seen and the USCG shuts down these
> barges for a safety checklist?  The EPA refuses to allow Dutch
> skimmers in because they are not 100% efficient?  These are
> indefensible decisions by the Obama administration. Rather than trying
> to defend Obama you should be asking why he has essentially sabotaged
> containment of the spill.
>
> I'm not one for conspiracy theories but clearly Obama could not have
> exploited this disaster to promote his energy policy had the spill
> been more effectively contained. I'm just saying…
>
> On Jun 18, 3:20 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is utter nonsense. So if my house is on fire but my fire
> > extinguisher doesn't have a proper regulator, I should not use it and
> > allow the house to burn down
> > ----------
> > if it is an ongoing process, and one of the firetrucks could cause a
> > life to be lost because of safety considerations, it would be taken
> > out of service until it was safe. Life is more important than
> > property.
>
> > On Jun 18, 2:05 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > This is utter nonsense. So if my house is on fire but my fire
> > > extinguisher doesn't have a proper regulator, I should not use it and
> > > allow the house to burn down? The barges should have been allowed to
> > > continue to do their thing while inspections and/or corrections were
> > > made in parallel.
>
> > > This is just as foolish as the Obama Administration refusing the offer
> > > from the Dutch to bring in their skimmers because the skimmers are not
> > > 100% efficient at removing the oil from the water and so could return
> > > water to the gulf that still contains a tiny amount of oil.
>
> > > If all of these systems had been put in place immediately the
> > > environmental disaster would be but a fraction of what we currently
> > > have. Attempting to defend the USCG or EPA for these decisions is
> > > impossible. To bad we don't still have Bush in office -- at least then
> > > no one would be attempting to smooth all this mismanagement over as
> > > acceptable and proper.
>
> > > On Jun 18, 1:07 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Define unsafe
> > > > ----------
> > > > the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the
> > > > proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. They were therefore,
> > > > unsafe.
>
> > > > On Jun 18, 12:12 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Define unsafe - without regard to what the congress says is unsafe.  
> > > > > BTW did you realize that the Democratic Congress passed the OSHA bills
> > > > > back in the day.   Guess who did not have to abide by them.  The
> > > > > Congress!!   So the rest of us had to put up with the OSHA requirements
> > > > > but those who worked for Congress did not.   Guess the  Congress didn't
> > > > > believe their own laws then.   I would bet the same is true now.    You
> > > > > can bet that if a coast guard vessel is in trouble and all the CG ships
> > > > > do not have the required safety equipment, the CG still goes out.    
> > > > > They shouldn't because it would not be safe for them.\
>
> > > > > Boy are you ever easy!!
>
> > > > > euwe wrote:
> > > > > > The state sent out unsafe barges - the coast guard has a duty to see
> > > > > > that all seafaring vessels are safe. human life and all that.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 18, 11:34 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> This is not about bp - this is about the state.   The state was the one
> > > > > >> that got them out there.   You are just trying to cover your idiocies.
>
> > > > > >> euwe wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> They followed standard operating procedures - bp is not above the law.
>
> > > > > >>> On Jun 18, 11:09 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>> To euwe.   Now explain just what this all accomplished by and for the
> > > > > >>>> Coast Guard.   Obviously the CG screwed up and they and you are trying
> > > > > >>>> to cover their asses.
>
> > > > > >>>> bruce majors wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>>   BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges
> > > > > >>>>>   Stopped by Coast Guard
>
> > > > > >>>>>     59 Days Into Oil Crisis, Gulf Coast Governors Say Feds Are Failing
> > > > > >>>>>     Them
>
> > > > > >>>>> 696 comments
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...>
> > > > > >>>>> *By DAVID MUIR and BRADLEY BLACKBURN*
> > > > > >>>>> June 17, 2010
>
> > > > > >>>>> Eight days ago, Louisiana
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/Louisiana> Gov. Bobby Jindal
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/Bobby-Jindal> ordered barges to
> > > > > >>>>> begin vacuuming crude oil
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...> out
> > > > > >>>>> of his state's oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor's
> > > > > >>>>> wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the
> > > > > >>>>> Louisiana shore.
>
> > > > > >>>>> Louisiana Governor Jindal frustrated over decision-making red tape.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/U.S.-Republican-Party> governor
> > > > > >>>>> said today in Buras, La. "Literally, yesterday morning we found out
> > > > > >>>>> that they were halting all of these barges."
>
> > > > > >>>>> *Watch "World News" for David Muir's report from Louisiana tonight.*
>
> > > > > >>>>> Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up
> > > > > >>>>> thousands of gallons of BP's oil as recently as Tuesday
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>. Workers in
> > > > > >>>>> hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters
> > > > > >>>>> and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be
> > > > > >>>>> effective at collecting the thick gunk.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "These barges work. You've seen them work. You've seen them suck oil
> > > > > >>>>> out of the water," said Jindal.
>
> > > > > >>>>> Related
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/bp-ceo-tony-hayward-oil-spill-10946517>
> > > > > >>>>> WATCH: BP CEO: 'No Evidence of Reckless Behavior'
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/bp-ceo-tony-hayward-oil-spill-10946517>
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>
> > > > > >>>>> WATCH: Citizens Take Charge
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...>
>
> > > > > >>>>> BP Spill: Oil Thicker Than Ever on Shore
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...>
>
> > > > > >>>>>         Coast Guard Orders Barges to Stop
>
> > > > > >>>>> So why stop now?
>
> > > > > >>>>> "The Coast Guard came and shut them down," Jindal said. "You got men
> > > > > >>>>> on the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard,
> > > > > >>>>> 'Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.'"
>
> > > > > >>>>> A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the
> > > > > >>>>> same goal as the governor.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil," said Coast Guard
> > > > > >>>>> Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer.
>
> > > > > >>>>> But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that
> > > > > >>>>> Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there
> > > > > >>>>> were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it had
> > > > > >>>>> trouble contacting the people who built the barges.
>
> > > > > >>>>>         Louisiana Governor Couldn't Overrule Coast Guard
>
> > > > > >>>>> The governor said he didn't have the authority to overrule the Coast
> > > > > >>>>> Guard's decision, though he said he tried to reach the White House
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/White-House> to raise his concerns.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "They promised us they were going to get it done as quickly as
> > > > > >>>>> possible," he said. But "every time you talk to someone different at
> > > > > >>>>> the Coast Guard, you get a different answer."
>
> > > > > >>>>> After Jindal strenuously made his case, the barges finally got the
> > > > > >>>>> go-ahead today to return to the Gulf and get back to work, after more
> > > > > >>>>> than 24 hours of sitting idle.
>
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Re: Obama stops clean up to create bigger disaster

No, they shut them down because they didn't have the proper life
saving or fire fighting equipment. They ALSO could not find the
captains.

On Jun 18, 9:33 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Life is more important than property.
>
> Very true but not applicable in this case. They shut the barges down
> because they couldn't confirm they had life vests and fire
> extinguishers. We're dealing with one of the greatest environmental
> disasters this country has ever seen and the USCG shuts down these
> barges for a safety checklist?  The EPA refuses to allow Dutch
> skimmers in because they are not 100% efficient?  These are
> indefensible decisions by the Obama administration. Rather than trying
> to defend Obama you should be asking why he has essentially sabotaged
> containment of the spill.
>
> I'm not one for conspiracy theories but clearly Obama could not have
> exploited this disaster to promote his energy policy had the spill
> been more effectively contained. I'm just saying…
>
> On Jun 18, 3:20 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This is utter nonsense. So if my house is on fire but my fire
> > extinguisher doesn't have a proper regulator, I should not use it and
> > allow the house to burn down
> > ----------
> > if it is an ongoing process, and one of the firetrucks could cause a
> > life to be lost because of safety considerations, it would be taken
> > out of service until it was safe. Life is more important than
> > property.
>
> > On Jun 18, 2:05 pm, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > This is utter nonsense. So if my house is on fire but my fire
> > > extinguisher doesn't have a proper regulator, I should not use it and
> > > allow the house to burn down? The barges should have been allowed to
> > > continue to do their thing while inspections and/or corrections were
> > > made in parallel.
>
> > > This is just as foolish as the Obama Administration refusing the offer
> > > from the Dutch to bring in their skimmers because the skimmers are not
> > > 100% efficient at removing the oil from the water and so could return
> > > water to the gulf that still contains a tiny amount of oil.
>
> > > If all of these systems had been put in place immediately the
> > > environmental disaster would be but a fraction of what we currently
> > > have. Attempting to defend the USCG or EPA for these decisions is
> > > impossible. To bad we don't still have Bush in office -- at least then
> > > no one would be attempting to smooth all this mismanagement over as
> > > acceptable and proper.
>
> > > On Jun 18, 1:07 pm, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Define unsafe
> > > > ----------
> > > > the ships were inspected and grounded because they did not have the
> > > > proper fire-fighting and life-saving equipment. They were therefore,
> > > > unsafe.
>
> > > > On Jun 18, 12:12 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > Define unsafe - without regard to what the congress says is unsafe.  
> > > > > BTW did you realize that the Democratic Congress passed the OSHA bills
> > > > > back in the day.   Guess who did not have to abide by them.  The
> > > > > Congress!!   So the rest of us had to put up with the OSHA requirements
> > > > > but those who worked for Congress did not.   Guess the  Congress didn't
> > > > > believe their own laws then.   I would bet the same is true now.    You
> > > > > can bet that if a coast guard vessel is in trouble and all the CG ships
> > > > > do not have the required safety equipment, the CG still goes out.    
> > > > > They shouldn't because it would not be safe for them.\
>
> > > > > Boy are you ever easy!!
>
> > > > > euwe wrote:
> > > > > > The state sent out unsafe barges - the coast guard has a duty to see
> > > > > > that all seafaring vessels are safe. human life and all that.
>
> > > > > > On Jun 18, 11:34 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> This is not about bp - this is about the state.   The state was the one
> > > > > >> that got them out there.   You are just trying to cover your idiocies.
>
> > > > > >> euwe wrote:
>
> > > > > >>> They followed standard operating procedures - bp is not above the law.
>
> > > > > >>> On Jun 18, 11:09 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>> To euwe.   Now explain just what this all accomplished by and for the
> > > > > >>>> Coast Guard.   Obviously the CG screwed up and they and you are trying
> > > > > >>>> to cover their asses.
>
> > > > > >>>> bruce majors wrote:
>
> > > > > >>>>>   BP Oil Spill: Against Gov. Jindal's Wishes, Crude-Sucking Barges
> > > > > >>>>>   Stopped by Coast Guard
>
> > > > > >>>>>     59 Days Into Oil Crisis, Gulf Coast Governors Say Feds Are Failing
> > > > > >>>>>     Them
>
> > > > > >>>>> 696 comments
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/bp-oil-spill-gov-bobby-jindals-wishes-crude/...>
> > > > > >>>>> *By DAVID MUIR and BRADLEY BLACKBURN*
> > > > > >>>>> June 17, 2010
>
> > > > > >>>>> Eight days ago, Louisiana
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/Louisiana> Gov. Bobby Jindal
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/Bobby-Jindal> ordered barges to
> > > > > >>>>> begin vacuuming crude oil
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...> out
> > > > > >>>>> of his state's oil-soaked waters. Today, against the governor's
> > > > > >>>>> wishes, those barges sat idle, even as more oil flowed toward the
> > > > > >>>>> Louisiana shore.
>
> > > > > >>>>> Louisiana Governor Jindal frustrated over decision-making red tape.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "It's the most frustrating thing," the Republican
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/U.S.-Republican-Party> governor
> > > > > >>>>> said today in Buras, La. "Literally, yesterday morning we found out
> > > > > >>>>> that they were halting all of these barges."
>
> > > > > >>>>> *Watch "World News" for David Muir's report from Louisiana tonight.*
>
> > > > > >>>>> Sixteen barges sat stationary today, although they were sucking up
> > > > > >>>>> thousands of gallons of BP's oil as recently as Tuesday
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>. Workers in
> > > > > >>>>> hazmat suits and gas masks pumped the oil out of the Louisiana waters
> > > > > >>>>> and into steel tanks. It was a homegrown idea that seemed to be
> > > > > >>>>> effective at collecting the thick gunk.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "These barges work. You've seen them work. You've seen them suck oil
> > > > > >>>>> out of the water," said Jindal.
>
> > > > > >>>>> Related
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/bp-ceo-tony-hayward-oil-spill-10946517>
> > > > > >>>>> WATCH: BP CEO: 'No Evidence of Reckless Behavior'
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/bp-ceo-tony-hayward-oil-spill-10946517>
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>
> > > > > >>>>> WATCH: Citizens Take Charge
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/citizens-charge-10924636>
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...>
>
> > > > > >>>>> BP Spill: Oil Thicker Than Ever on Shore
> > > > > >>>>> <http://abcnews.go.com/WN/Media/bp-oil-spill-thick-crude-hits-shore-wo...>
>
> > > > > >>>>>         Coast Guard Orders Barges to Stop
>
> > > > > >>>>> So why stop now?
>
> > > > > >>>>> "The Coast Guard came and shut them down," Jindal said. "You got men
> > > > > >>>>> on the barges in the oil, and they have been told by the Coast Guard,
> > > > > >>>>> 'Cease and desist. Stop sucking up that oil.'"
>
> > > > > >>>>> A Coast Guard representative told ABC News today that it shares the
> > > > > >>>>> same goal as the governor.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "We are all in this together. The enemy is the oil," said Coast Guard
> > > > > >>>>> Lt. Cmdr. Dan Lauer.
>
> > > > > >>>>> But the Coast Guard ordered the stoppage because of reasons that
> > > > > >>>>> Jindal found frustrating. The Coast Guard needed to confirm that there
> > > > > >>>>> were fire extinguishers and life vests on board, and then it had
> > > > > >>>>> trouble contacting the people who built the barges.
>
> > > > > >>>>>         Louisiana Governor Couldn't Overrule Coast Guard
>
> > > > > >>>>> The governor said he didn't have the authority to overrule the Coast
> > > > > >>>>> Guard's decision, though he said he tried to reach the White House
> > > > > >>>>> <http://topics.abcnews.go.com/topic/White-House> to raise his concerns.
>
> > > > > >>>>> "They promised us they were going to get it done as quickly as
> > > > > >>>>> possible," he said. But "every time you talk to someone different at
> > > > > >>>>> the Coast Guard, you get a different answer."
>
> > > > > >>>>> After Jindal strenuously made his case, the barges finally got the
> > > > > >>>>> go-ahead today to return to the Gulf and get back to work, after more
> > > > > >>>>> than 24 hours of sitting idle.
>
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