If you also bothered to read something besides anti-religious blogs on the subject you would find that the US supports Israel NOT because of any particular religion they practice there (just as meany as in the USA) but because of its form of Government in an area of the world that otherwise lacks any true republic.
As to discriminating against Muzzies... It's not done. Look to Egypt & Lybia & Iraq & &&&&, (the US aided in the overthrow of secularist governments) much to their dismay, but done nonetheless.
As to Homosexuals... they are bringing it on themselves...for the most part.
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Mark M. Kahle H.
-- On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:49 AM, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
Franklin was but one myth believer.
but go ahead and think the USA is a xian nation if it makes you feel
better ... hopefully you'll be at peace while your children and
grandchildren are killing and dying to control the mythical holy land
and discriminating against muzzies and homosexuals.
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:55 AM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
On Feb 28, 9:59 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's just not true PlainOl. Jefferson's words that you reference were
> only a ruse, and there have been numerous, contemporaneous articles written
> at the time of the logic behind what Jefferson wrote at the time.
>
> Read Franklin's auto-biography!
>
> ...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote:
> > see my above post
>
> > you can't void the fact that many religions were represented and all
> > were welcomed.
>
> > the US is not and never was intended to be a xian nation
>
> > On Feb 28, 9:48 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Good Morning PlainOl,
>
> > > *See* my above post.
>
> > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 10:46 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > They were Christians;
> > > > ----
> > > > it doesn't matter if they were xians ... the USA is was intended to be
> > > > a secular nation
>
> > > > they knew the evils of Islam;
> > > > ---
> > > > Jefferson demanded recognition of the religious rights of the
> > > > "Mahamdan," the Jew and the "pagan." Supporting Jefferson was his old
> > > > ally, Richard Henry Lee, who had made a motion in Congress on June 7,
> > > > 1776, that the American colonies declare independence. "True freedom,"
> > > > Lee asserted, "embraces the Mahomitan and the Gentoo (Hindu) as well
> > > > as the Christian religion."
>
> > > > and they
> > > > knew, some two hundred thirty-five years ago, that there would be
> > > > folks
> > > > like you who would attempt to re-write history.
> > > > ---
> > > > wrong, I'm acknowledging history ... you're trying to rewrite US
> > > > history as wholly xian ... something that it is not
>
> > > > On Feb 28, 9:22 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > That whole theory about our Founding Fathers being, "Deist" is horse
> > > > > hockey. They were Christians; they knew the evils of Islam; and they
> > > > > knew, some two hundred thirty-five years ago, that there would be
> > folks
> > > > > like you who would attempt to re-write history.
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:34 AM, plainolamerican
> > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > PlainOl is pretty much the same as a Moonbat
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > You're a myth believer and you call me a moonbat? That's almost
> > funny.
>
> > > > > > He would very much like to
> > > > > > rewrite history, and he detests that fact that this Nation was
> > founded
> > > > > > upon
> > > > > > Christian principles and tenets
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > by men who knew better than to integrate religion into our
> > government.
> > > > > > While many Americans did practice Christianity, so also did many
> > > > > > believe in deistic philosophy, judaism, islam, and a host of other
> > > > > > religions or no religion at all.
> > > > > > To try and give xians credit for founding America or making it a
> > xian
> > > > > > nation is not factual. You're attempt to do so makes you look like
> > a
> > > > > > religious nutcase.
> > > > > > Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion.
>
> > > > > > On Feb 27, 10:43 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hey Mark!
>
> > > > > > > PlainOl is pretty much the same as a Moonbat. He would very much
> > > > like to
> > > > > > > rewrite history, and he detests that fact that this Nation was
> > > > founded
> > > > > > upon
> > > > > > > Christian principles and tenets.
>
> > > > > > > As far as the Church of the Gonz......I strive for the Golden
> > Coffee
> > > > > > Table!
>
> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Keith and I are both members of the same congregation... The
> > > > Church of
> > > > > > > > Gonz (send money or women)
> > > > > >http://www.gonzphoto.com/TheChurchofGonz.html
> > > > > > > > I am one of the exalted High 5 of this fine organization....
>
> > > > > > > > Please don't try to compare us or our privately held beliefs to
> > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > "mainstream".
>
> > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> you are free to join Santorum and Gingrich as a religious
> > nutcase
>
> > > > > > > >> On Feb 27, 2:09 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > That is about as crackpot sounding, as LilMoonbatTomTom
> > sounds
> > > > > > > >> > Moonbatty.....
>
> > > > > > > >> > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:44 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > > >> plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > Santorum and Gingrich are religious nutcases compared to
> > > > Romney
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > > Paul.
> > > > > > > >> > > They want to make the USA a xian nation. They. like the
> > the
> > > > jews,
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > > >> > > to protect their flock all over the globe.
> > > > > > > >> > > They should fund and fight their own religious wars.
> > > > Americans owe
> > > > > > > >> > > them nothing.
>
> > > > > > > >> > > On Feb 26, 3:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <
> > markmka...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > Tommytomtom,
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > Please show me "separation of church and state"... it
> > does
> > > > > > guarantee
> > > > > > > >> > > > "freedom of religion" NOT "freedom from religion"
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > On Feb 26, 2:24 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > From Greg
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > SANTORUM: SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE 'MAKES ME
> > WANT TO
> > > > > > THROW
> > > > > > > >> UP' -
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Alana Horowitz reports on the Huffington Post:"Rick
> > > > Santorum
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> Sunday
> > > > > > > >> > > > > took on of separation of church and state."'I don't
> > > > believe
> > > > > > in an
> > > > > > > >> > > > > America where the separation of church and state are
> > > > > > absolute,' he
> > > > > > > >> > > > > told 'This Week' host George Stephanopoulos. 'The idea
> > > > that
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> church
> > > > > > > >> > > > > can have no influence or no involvement in the
> > operation
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> state
> > > > > > > >> > > > > is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and
> > vision
> > > > of our
> > > > > > > >> > > > > country...to say that people of faith have no role in
> > the
> > > > > > public
> > > > > > > >> > > > > square? You bet that makes me want to throw up.'
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > "The GOP candidate was responding to comments he made
> > last
> > > > > > > >> October. He
> > > > > > > >> > > > > had said that he 'almost threw up' after reading JFK's
> > > > 1960
> > > > > > > >> speech in
> > > > > > > >> > > > > which he declared his commitment to the separation of
> > > > church
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> > > > > state. "Santorum also on Sunday told Meet The Press
> > host
> > > > David
> > > > > > > >> Gregory
> > > > > > > >> > > > > that separation of church and state was 'not the
> > founders'
> > > > > > > >> vision.'
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > "The GOP candidate has been doubling down on religious
> > > > > > rhetoric
> > > > > > > >> in an
> > > > > > > >> > > > > effort to court evangelical voters ahead of Super
> > Tuesday.
> > > > > > Last
> > > > > > > >> week,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > he questioned Obama's spiritual beliefs."'[Obama
> > believes
> > > > in]
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >> > > > > phony ideal, some phony theology ... not a theology
> > based
> > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Bible, a different theology,' he said."
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > More:
> > > > > > > >> > > > > HuffingtonPost.com
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Tommy
>
> > > > > > > >> > > > > --
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Have a great day,
> > > > > > > >> > > > > Tommy
>
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