Friday, January 7, 2011

Re: GAY RIGHTS

Greg,

Marriage is not a "Right". It is a State sanctioned "institution" requiring a State license for which there are many and varied rules from depending on the State you are in.

Some require residency, others do not. Some require blood tests, others do not. Some allow cousins to marry, others do not. Some allow Minors to marry, others do not. "Rights" do not have varied and differing LEGAL applications.

This does not belong on this list.

On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 10:44 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
They can't get married in the feds eyes.  That has been found
unconstitutional, but DOJ is challenging that.

Who's DOJ might that be?

On Jan 7, 10:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy,
>
> Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays
> (etc) do not have.
>tio
> You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just what
> are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others
> have.
>
> Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be granted
> on a State level.
>
> ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different "privileges"
> and "licenses"  that are left to the "Several States" are not now nor
> were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>
> Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that which
> makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would
> NEVER live in Texas)
>
> Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws,
> marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from
> State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make
> it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long as
> it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and
> Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>
> Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated "Rights"
> are you lacking ??
>
> I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then we
> can discuss it.
>
> I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate (remember,
> Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
> discussion.

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Re: Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress

With all the new members of Congress that just started I am interested
in what voting records and campaign platforms you are referring to.
Hate to tell you bug gay rights are pretty low on the list of things
people are concerned about. They are far more interested in taxes,
jobs, requirements levied on businesses that keep them form hiring and
expanding, new EPA requirements, wars, healthcare, court cases. Those
mean a lot more to the public than gay rights do because gay rights
really only affect about 2-3% of the public. you on the other hand seem
to live your life based solely on the point that you are gay. Must be a
terrible thing not to open your eyes and see just what a minor point
those items are in the scope of the rest of the country. Can you even
see that in your own life gay rights really have impact only on small
portions of it. Gay rights do not affect your food buying, clothes
buying, travel to work, relations to the general public who are not
gay. What a sad and pathetic life you must lead.

On 01/07/2011 11:33 AM, Tommy News wrote:
> Their past voting records and campaign platforms speak volumes.
>
> Do you have any idea how stupid not seeing that predictability is?
>
> Nevermind, the answer is more than obvious. You are blind.
>
> On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston<greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Do you have any idea how stupid it is to call people anti-gay before
>> they so much as bang a gavel?
>>
>> Nevermind, the answer is obvious
>>
>> On Jan 7, 9:44 am, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress.
>>>
>>> As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
>>> rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
>>> ahead.
>>>
>>> The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
>>> determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
>>> 111th Congress.
>>>
>>> The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
>>> to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>>>
>>> The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
>>> shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>>> anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>>> even split.
>>>
>>> Look at the figures. And weap.
>>>
>>> House
>>> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>>> Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
>>> Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
>>> Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>>>
>>> Senate
>>> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>>> Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
>>> Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
>>> Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>>>
>>> Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
>>> gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
>>> of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
>>> conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
>>> to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
>>> pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>>>
>>> This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>>>
>>> A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
>>> of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>>>
>>> It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
>>> struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
>>> right thing.
>>>
>>> More:http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-...
>>>
>>> --
>>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Tommy
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Re: LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories With New Anti-gay Congress

The President has stated that he wants DOMA repealed.

On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here's a nice easy one.
>
> Get POTUS to drop his challenge to DOMA unconstitutionality.
>
>
>
> On Jan 7, 11:43 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories
>> With New Congress
>>
>> WASHINGTON -- Facing an emboldened Republican House unlikely to
>> consider significant gay rights legislation in 2011, the nation's
>> leading LGBT advocacy organizations are aiming to push for measures
>> that advance pro-equality causes but are a far cry from historic bills
>> like the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
>>
>> A new analysis by the Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest
>> LGBT advocacy group, argues that the 112th Congress will have 53 more
>> lawmakers unlikely to vote on behalf of advancing gay rights than in
>> the previous session; the Senate will have five more, bringing the
>> total of such members in the new Congress to 265:
>>
>> "There will be some opportunities that will be presented to us," said
>> Allison Herwitt, legislative director at HRC. "I think that going into
>> the 112th Congress, generally, we'll be looking at, what are the
>> bigger bills that will be moving that we can put pieces of
>> pro-equality -- either amendments or provisions -- into those larger
>> moving bills?"
>>
>> She said the reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education
>> Act might provide opportunities to include measures addressing
>> bullying and harassment. The Older Americans Act could allow advocates
>> to push for provisions that benefit older LGBT Americans. A piece of
>> free-standing legislation, the Tax Equity for Health Plan
>> Beneficiaries Act, would equalize tax treatment for employer-provided
>> health coverage for domestic partners and other non-spouse,
>> non-dependent beneficiaries.
>>
>> HRC will still work on larger pieces of legislation, like the
>> Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Defense of Marriage Act,
>> pushing to introduce the bills, educating lawmakers and holding
>> hearings on the issues.
>>
>> R. Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans,
>> also acknowledges that major measures are unlikely to go anywhere but
>> said there are opportunities to marry the fiscal concerns of the
>> Republican Party with pro-equality legislation. Like Herwitt, he
>> pointed to inequalities in the tax code.
>>
>> Currently under federal law, employers who offer health benefits for
>> the domestic partners of their employees face unequal treatment: both
>> the employers and employees are taxed at a higher rate and
>> essentially, employers are rewarded for discriminating.
>>
>> We have drafted a tax reform bill that would address a 'donut hole' --
>> people call it different things -- there is currently a problem with
>> the way the federal tax code is written that is punitive to employers,
>> and employees who may have a same-sex partner," said Cooper, noting it
>> would be LCR's first piece of legislation this Congress. "We figure,
>> with the current appetite in Congress for tax reform, and the current
>> appetite for economic growth and limiting the federal budget and
>> balancing the budget, this may be an opportunity for a successful
>> piece of legislation that could be introduced and sponsored by
>> Republicans, with bipartisan support from Democrats."
>>
>> He is less pessimistic that Republicans will try to take away LGBT
>> rights, pointing to 11 of LCR's endorsed candidates -- including five
>> new members -- who will be in the 112th Congress. He also noted that
>> on Dec. 15, the Republican Study Committee, run by the socially
>> conservative Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), convened a meeting with
>> conservative and Republican auxiliary organizations -- including the
>> Heritage Foundation, National Rifle Association, and LCR -- and made
>> clear the party will be focused on fiscal issues.
>>
>> "What Chairman Jordan shared with us is that all the priorities for
>> this Congress are fiscal-related," said Cooper. "One could interpret
>> it as there have been lessons learned either at a pragmatic or
>> principled level by certain Republicans on social issues, that they're
>> not good for the party; they are divisive. And frankly, in many
>> respects, from a true definition of conservatism, social issues don't
>> have a role in the government."
>>
>> The three priorities identified by Jordan, according to Cooper, were:
>> 1) a rescission package that would eliminate previously approved
>> spending; 2) balancing the federal budget; and 3) federal welfare
>> reform.
>>
>> Herwitt is less optimistic. She said that LGBT advocates will have to
>> look closely at budget numbers Republicans put out and where they
>> decide to cut spending. Will they go after funding for HIV/AIDS
>> programs? Hate crimes enforcement?
>>
>> Additionally, as the 2012 elections heat up, she said Republicans
>> might bring social issues to the table again.
>>
>> "I think they're going to have to give some red meat to their base,
>> and I assume it's either going to be anti-gay, anti-choice, or
>> anti-immigrant, or all of the above," said Herwitt. "So I just think
>> that when you have someone like Jeb Hensarling, who is chairman of the
>> House Republican Conference, he's extremely connected and close to a
>> lot the right-wing religious groups, so there's going to be pressure
>> on the leadership to deliver on some of these issues."
>>
>> One branch of government that could hold major victories (or upsets)
>> for the LGBT community: the judicial system. There currently are two
>> major cases making their way through the courts, one challenging the
>> constitutionality of DOMA, the other the constitutionality of
>> California's same-sex marriage ban. Either could end up at the Supreme
>> Court.
>>
>> There will also be action at the state level, with Maryland, New York
>> and Rhode Island looking to advance marriage equality bills, and
>> states like Tennessee, Arizona and Florida likely considering
>> legislation to restrict adoption rights for same-sex parents.
>>
>> More:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/lgbt-groups-goals-2011-victo...
>> --
>> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> Have a great day,
>> Tommy
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Re: Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress

Greg-

Your twisted pretzel glue logic is pathetic.

Your negative attacks are dispicable.

You are disgusting and annoying.


On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ah, so now its "predicting".
>
> Its quite simple.
>
> You WANT to congress to step on gays. You NEED them to.
>
> I understand now.
>
> On Jan 7, 11:33 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Their past voting records and campaign platforms speak volumes.
>>
>> Do you have any idea how stupid not seeing that predictability is?
>>
>> Nevermind, the answer is more than obvious. You are blind.
>>
>> On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Do you have any idea how stupid it is to call people anti-gay before
>> > they so much as bang a gavel?
>>
>> > Nevermind, the answer is obvious
>>
>> > On Jan 7, 9:44 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th
>> >> Congress.
>>
>> >> As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
>> >> rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
>> >> ahead.
>>
>> >> The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
>> >> determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
>> >> 111th Congress.
>>
>> >> The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
>> >> to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>>
>> >> The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
>> >> shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> >> anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> >> even split.
>>
>> >> Look at the figures. And weap.
>>
>> >> House
>> >> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> >> Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
>> >> Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
>> >> Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>>
>> >> Senate
>> >> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> >> Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
>> >> Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
>> >> Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>>
>> >> Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
>> >> gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
>> >> of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
>> >> conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
>> >> to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
>> >> pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>>
>> >> This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>>
>> >> A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
>> >> of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>>
>> >> It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
>> >> struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
>> >> right thing.
>>
>> >> More:http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-...
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>>
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Re: LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories With New Anti-gay Congress

Here's a nice easy one.

Get POTUS to drop his challenge to DOMA unconstitutionality.

On Jan 7, 11:43 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories
> With New Congress
>
> WASHINGTON -- Facing an emboldened Republican House unlikely to
> consider significant gay rights legislation in 2011, the nation's
> leading LGBT advocacy organizations are aiming to push for measures
> that advance pro-equality causes but are a far cry from historic bills
> like the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.
>
> A new analysis by the Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest
> LGBT advocacy group, argues that the 112th Congress will have 53 more
> lawmakers unlikely to vote on behalf of advancing gay rights than in
> the previous session; the Senate will have five more, bringing the
> total of such members in the new Congress to 265:
>
> "There will be some opportunities that will be presented to us," said
> Allison Herwitt, legislative director at HRC. "I think that going into
> the 112th Congress, generally, we'll be looking at, what are the
> bigger bills that will be moving that we can put pieces of
> pro-equality -- either amendments or provisions -- into those larger
> moving bills?"
>
> She said the reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education
> Act might provide opportunities to include measures addressing
> bullying and harassment. The Older Americans Act could allow advocates
> to push for provisions that benefit older LGBT Americans. A piece of
> free-standing legislation, the Tax Equity for Health Plan
> Beneficiaries Act, would equalize tax treatment for employer-provided
> health coverage for domestic partners and other non-spouse,
> non-dependent beneficiaries.
>
> HRC will still work on larger pieces of legislation, like the
> Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Defense of Marriage Act,
> pushing to introduce the bills, educating lawmakers and holding
> hearings on the issues.
>
> R. Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans,
> also acknowledges that major measures are unlikely to go anywhere but
> said there are opportunities to marry the fiscal concerns of the
> Republican Party with pro-equality legislation. Like Herwitt, he
> pointed to inequalities in the tax code.
>
> Currently under federal law, employers who offer health benefits for
> the domestic partners of their employees face unequal treatment: both
> the employers and employees are taxed at a higher rate and
> essentially, employers are rewarded for discriminating.
>
> We have drafted a tax reform bill that would address a 'donut hole' --
> people call it different things -- there is currently a problem with
> the way the federal tax code is written that is punitive to employers,
> and employees who may have a same-sex partner," said Cooper, noting it
> would be LCR's first piece of legislation this Congress. "We figure,
> with the current appetite in Congress for tax reform, and the current
> appetite for economic growth and limiting the federal budget and
> balancing the budget, this may be an opportunity for a successful
> piece of legislation that could be introduced and sponsored by
> Republicans, with bipartisan support from Democrats."
>
> He is less pessimistic that Republicans will try to take away LGBT
> rights, pointing to 11 of LCR's endorsed candidates -- including five
> new members -- who will be in the 112th Congress. He also noted that
> on Dec. 15, the Republican Study Committee, run by the socially
> conservative Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), convened a meeting with
> conservative and Republican auxiliary organizations -- including the
> Heritage Foundation, National Rifle Association, and LCR -- and made
> clear the party will be focused on fiscal issues.
>
> "What Chairman Jordan shared with us is that all the priorities for
> this Congress are fiscal-related," said Cooper. "One could interpret
> it as there have been lessons learned either at a pragmatic or
> principled level by certain Republicans on social issues, that they're
> not good for the party; they are divisive. And frankly, in many
> respects, from a true definition of conservatism, social issues don't
> have a role in the government."
>
> The three priorities identified by Jordan, according to Cooper, were:
> 1) a rescission package that would eliminate previously approved
> spending; 2) balancing the federal budget; and 3) federal welfare
> reform.
>
> Herwitt is less optimistic. She said that LGBT advocates will have to
> look closely at budget numbers Republicans put out and where they
> decide to cut spending. Will they go after funding for HIV/AIDS
> programs? Hate crimes enforcement?
>
> Additionally, as the 2012 elections heat up, she said Republicans
> might bring social issues to the table again.
>
> "I think they're going to have to give some red meat to their base,
> and I assume it's either going to be anti-gay, anti-choice, or
> anti-immigrant, or all of the above," said Herwitt. "So I just think
> that when you have someone like Jeb Hensarling, who is chairman of the
> House Republican Conference, he's extremely connected and close to a
> lot the right-wing religious groups, so there's going to be pressure
> on the leadership to deliver on some of these issues."
>
> One branch of government that could hold major victories (or upsets)
> for the LGBT community: the judicial system. There currently are two
> major cases making their way through the courts, one challenging the
> constitutionality of DOMA, the other the constitutionality of
> California's same-sex marriage ban. Either could end up at the Supreme
> Court.
>
> There will also be action at the state level, with Maryland, New York
> and Rhode Island looking to advance marriage equality bills, and
> states like Tennessee, Arizona and Florida likely considering
> legislation to restrict adoption rights for same-sex parents.
>
> More:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/lgbt-groups-goals-2011-victo...
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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Re: GAY RIGHTS

They can't get married in the feds eyes. That has been found
unconstitutional, but DOJ is challenging that.

Who's DOJ might that be?

On Jan 7, 10:58 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy,
>
> Please list all rights as enumerated in the Constitution that Gays
> (etc) do not have.
>tio
> You constantly harp about "RIGHTS" .... You never list them. Just what
> are those "Rights" that you feel are absent in your life that others
> have.
>
> Please DO NOT list "Privileges" or "Licenses" that can only be granted
> on a State level.
>
> ONLY "Rights" are meant to be universal... The different "privileges"
> and "licenses"  that are left to the "Several States" are not now nor
> were they ever meant to be, "Rights".
>
> Each State is in itself "Sovereign" with local rules being that which
> makes a State attractive to one and repulsive to another. (I would
> NEVER live in Texas)
>
> Traffic laws, Domestic violence laws, noise laws, land use laws,
> marriage/divorce laws, and even the death penalty laws ALL vary from
> State to State because the "Several States" have the "Right" to make
> it so. They must bow to to will of the people in that State as long as
> it does not interfere with one of the Federally Guaranteed and
> Constitutionally enumerated "Rights".
>
> Just which of your Constitutionally Guaranteed and Enumerated "Rights"
> are you lacking ??
>
> I'll wait for the list and your personal explanation for each. Then we
> can discuss it.
>
> I am anxiously awaiting your well thought-out and accurate (remember,
> Constitutionally Enumerated "Right") list to begin an earnest
> discussion.

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LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories With New Anti-gay Congress

LGBT Groups Scale Back Goals In 2011, Search For Smaller Victories
With New Congress

WASHINGTON -- Facing an emboldened Republican House unlikely to
consider significant gay rights legislation in 2011, the nation's
leading LGBT advocacy organizations are aiming to push for measures
that advance pro-equality causes but are a far cry from historic bills
like the repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

A new analysis by the Human Rights Campaign, the country's largest
LGBT advocacy group, argues that the 112th Congress will have 53 more
lawmakers unlikely to vote on behalf of advancing gay rights than in
the previous session; the Senate will have five more, bringing the
total of such members in the new Congress to 265:


"There will be some opportunities that will be presented to us," said
Allison Herwitt, legislative director at HRC. "I think that going into
the 112th Congress, generally, we'll be looking at, what are the
bigger bills that will be moving that we can put pieces of
pro-equality -- either amendments or provisions -- into those larger
moving bills?"

She said the reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education
Act might provide opportunities to include measures addressing
bullying and harassment. The Older Americans Act could allow advocates
to push for provisions that benefit older LGBT Americans. A piece of
free-standing legislation, the Tax Equity for Health Plan
Beneficiaries Act, would equalize tax treatment for employer-provided
health coverage for domestic partners and other non-spouse,
non-dependent beneficiaries.

HRC will still work on larger pieces of legislation, like the
Employment Non-Discrimination Act and the Defense of Marriage Act,
pushing to introduce the bills, educating lawmakers and holding
hearings on the issues.

R. Clarke Cooper, executive director of the Log Cabin Republicans,
also acknowledges that major measures are unlikely to go anywhere but
said there are opportunities to marry the fiscal concerns of the
Republican Party with pro-equality legislation. Like Herwitt, he
pointed to inequalities in the tax code.

Currently under federal law, employers who offer health benefits for
the domestic partners of their employees face unequal treatment: both
the employers and employees are taxed at a higher rate and
essentially, employers are rewarded for discriminating.

We have drafted a tax reform bill that would address a 'donut hole' --
people call it different things -- there is currently a problem with
the way the federal tax code is written that is punitive to employers,
and employees who may have a same-sex partner," said Cooper, noting it
would be LCR's first piece of legislation this Congress. "We figure,
with the current appetite in Congress for tax reform, and the current
appetite for economic growth and limiting the federal budget and
balancing the budget, this may be an opportunity for a successful
piece of legislation that could be introduced and sponsored by
Republicans, with bipartisan support from Democrats."

He is less pessimistic that Republicans will try to take away LGBT
rights, pointing to 11 of LCR's endorsed candidates -- including five
new members -- who will be in the 112th Congress. He also noted that
on Dec. 15, the Republican Study Committee, run by the socially
conservative Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), convened a meeting with
conservative and Republican auxiliary organizations -- including the
Heritage Foundation, National Rifle Association, and LCR -- and made
clear the party will be focused on fiscal issues.

"What Chairman Jordan shared with us is that all the priorities for
this Congress are fiscal-related," said Cooper. "One could interpret
it as there have been lessons learned either at a pragmatic or
principled level by certain Republicans on social issues, that they're
not good for the party; they are divisive. And frankly, in many
respects, from a true definition of conservatism, social issues don't
have a role in the government."

The three priorities identified by Jordan, according to Cooper, were:
1) a rescission package that would eliminate previously approved
spending; 2) balancing the federal budget; and 3) federal welfare
reform.

Herwitt is less optimistic. She said that LGBT advocates will have to
look closely at budget numbers Republicans put out and where they
decide to cut spending. Will they go after funding for HIV/AIDS
programs? Hate crimes enforcement?

Additionally, as the 2012 elections heat up, she said Republicans
might bring social issues to the table again.

"I think they're going to have to give some red meat to their base,
and I assume it's either going to be anti-gay, anti-choice, or
anti-immigrant, or all of the above," said Herwitt. "So I just think
that when you have someone like Jeb Hensarling, who is chairman of the
House Republican Conference, he's extremely connected and close to a
lot the right-wing religious groups, so there's going to be pressure
on the leadership to deliver on some of these issues."

One branch of government that could hold major victories (or upsets)
for the LGBT community: the judicial system. There currently are two
major cases making their way through the courts, one challenging the
constitutionality of DOMA, the other the constitutionality of
California's same-sex marriage ban. Either could end up at the Supreme
Court.

There will also be action at the state level, with Maryland, New York
and Rhode Island looking to advance marriage equality bills, and
states like Tennessee, Arizona and Florida likely considering
legislation to restrict adoption rights for same-sex parents.

More:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/05/lgbt-groups-goals-2011-victories_n_804455.html
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Re: House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views

There's Herr Godwin again

On Jan 7, 11:35 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Lil' Keithie Keith-
>
> You are dead wrong, yet again.
>
> Why don't you speak for youself, instead of portending to know and
> understand what I think and feel?
>
> You really are a judgemental Reich wing hack.
>
> On 1/7/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Greg,
>
> > What gets me about folks like Tom, is that they literally cannot think for
> > themselves.   They are reduced to repeating the hateful, prevaricate spew
> > that they hear from sites like Gayapolis, who is written and produced by
> > folks just like Tommy.  They haven't had an original thought in their head
> > in twenty years.  By example, look at the article that Tom posted above.
> > There is nothing to support his contention that the 112th Congress is less
> > likely to support inherent rights or personal protections, if anything, the
> > Tea Party movement has stood on embracing all aspects of the Constitution.
> > Boehmer just had the Constitution read aloud on the House Floor to
> > demonstrate this new Congress's devotion and determination of getting back
> > to the principals of the Constitution.
>
> > Folks like Tom and those at Gayapolis can provide no data that supports
> > their position that the current Congress is less likely to somehow be the
> > big bad wolf to the homosexuals in the Nation,  all he can do is play upon
> > fear, as you pointed out.   Their rhetoric is hypocritical, in that their
> > actions are exactly what Tom (and probably Gayapolis, that's where Tommy
> > gets his spin and talking points,  along with the Daily Kos, TruthOut.org,
> > and the Southern Poverty Law Center, all hate sites)  were bitching and
> > complaining about for the last two years, (and as recently as yesterday;
> > "The Grand  Obstructionist Party")
>
> > Tom has each and every quality of a Moonbat!   What's funny, is that he has
> > no clue!  Tom thinks that he is in step with America, when in fact Tom and
> > his far left militant brethren march to a totally different beat of
> > different drummers.
>
> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, GregfromBoston
> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
> >> Fear mongering didn't work before the midterm slaughter.  It takes a
> >> special kind of fool to think it will after it
>
> >> On Jan 7, 10:48 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Tom,
>
> >> > You're a Moonbat.
>
> >> > Keith
>
> >>  > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > Watch your vulgar language, Lil' Keithie Keith. You are clearly "out
> >> > > of the loop" or else "loopy".
>
> >> > > Gaypolis is an international news, travel, and social website catering
> >> > > to the worldwide  LGBT community and friends. Homepage index is here:
> >> > >http://www.gayapolis.com/search/index.php
>
> >> > > Here are further emperical statistics and proof to back up the
> >> > > satement that the 112th Congress is indeed anti-gay. Did you really
> >> > > think that all those Reich wing racist GOP tea partiers would be in
> >> > > favor of LGBT civil rights? I think not, Keithie.
>
> >> > > COMMENTARY: 112th Congress is much less gay friendly, endangering
> >> > > equal rights progress
> >> > > Ken Williams - SDGLN Editor in Chief
> >> > > As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
> >> > > rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
> >> > > ahead.
>
> >> > > The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
> >> > > determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
> >> > > 111th Congress.
>
> >> > > The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
> >> > > to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>
> >> > > The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
> >> > > shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> >> > > anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> >> > > even split.
>
> >> > > Look at the figures. And weap.
>
> >> > > House
> >> > > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> >> > > Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
> >> > > Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
> >> > > Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>
> >> > > Senate
> >> > > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> >> > > Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
> >> > > Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
> >> > > Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>
> >> > > Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
> >> > > gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
> >> > > of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
> >> > > conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
> >> > > to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
> >> > > pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>
> >> > > This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>
> >> > > A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
> >> > > of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>
> >> > > It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
> >> > > struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
> >> > > right thing.
>
> >> > > More:
>
> >> > >http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-.
> >> ..
>
> >> > > On 1/7/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > Tom?
>
> >> > > > Who the Fuck is "Gayapolis"??
>
> >> > > > Let's review:
>
> >> > > > *"Last year's elections that resulted in the loss of the US House of
> >> > > > Representatives to an anti- equality leadership, along with more
> >> > > anti-lgbt
> >> > > > senators," *
> >> > > > **
> >> > > > Says who?  How has this person or entity come to this conclusion?
> >>  The
> >> > > 112th
> >> > > > Congress has not even got their seats warmed up yet, and "Gayapolis"
> >> is
> >> > > > clamoring that the body politic is, "Anti-Gay" already?
>
> >> > > > One would have to think that yours, (and "Gayapolis's)  mind is made
> >> up,
> >> > > and
> >> > > > that no matter what this recently elected Congress does, you will be
> >> > > opposed
> >> > > > to whatever measures they take.  Wasn't it you that was just
> >> > > > recently calling the Republican Party the "Obstructionist Party";
> >>  and
> >> > > the
> >> > > > "Party of No"?  Don't you see the hypocracy?
>
> >> > > > By all accounts, the 112th Congress would appear to have this fresh
> >> new
> >> > > idea
> >> > > > of upholding the United States Constitution, in particular those
> >> clauses
> >> > > > that embrace personal protections, inherent rights and equal
> >> protections
> >> > > for
> >> > > > all citizens.   This is where the Gay Community is so, so, so
> >> > > > misguided.   Those who believe that they are entitled to "more"
> >> rights
> >> > > and
> >> > > > privileges than the rest of Americans would portray anyone that
> >> opposes
> >> > > them
> >> > > > as, "Anti Gay"  or a homophobe.
>
> >> > > > Such statements by "Gayapolis" and other far left extremist,
> >> > > > militant
> >> Gay
> >> > > > organizations hurts the cause(s) for all Gays in general.   It is a
> >> > > turn-off
> >> > > > to the majority of all Americans, and I would think to the majority
> >> of
> >> > > > thinking Gay Americans.
> >> > > > Tom, why don't you take the initiative, and condemn such
> >> organizations as
> >> > > > "Gayapolis", on behalf of the Gay Community?   Now is the time to
> >> take a
> >> > > > stand, and stop the hate, lies and smear!
>
> >> > > > KeithInKöln
>
> >>  > > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > >> We must protest loudly!
>
> >> > > >> House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views
>
> >> > > >> This New Year brings new challenges for lesbian, gay, bisexual and
> >> > > >> transgender people, but also new opportunities. Last year's
> >> elections
> >> > > >> that resulted in the loss of the US House of Representatives to an
> >> > > >> anti- equality leadership, along with more anti-lgbt senators, will
> >> > > >> certainly impede - but not entirely stop - pro-lgbt federal
> >> > > >> legislative efforts. looking at the states however, there are clear
> >> > > >> opportunities for advancing an equality agenda, including in the
> >> area
> >> > > >> of relationship recognition for same-sex couples. of course,
> >> anti-lgbt
> >> > > >> forces will to try to turn back the clock at every opportunity, and
> >> > > >> fair-minded americans will continue to be vigilant to preserve
> >> > > >> pro-equality laws across the country.
>
> >> > > >> CONGRESS
>
> >> > > >> As the new Congress is sworn in this week, there is no denying that
> >> > > >> pro-LGBT numbers have shrunk on Capitol Hill. A Human Rights
> >> Campaign
> >> > > >> analysis shows a pick-up of 53 House seats to anti-LGBT lawmakers
> >> > > >> as
> >> > > >> well as a 5 seat addition in the Senate. Not only do those opposing
> >> > > >> basic equality hold positions of power as House leaders and
> >> committee
> >> > > >> chairmen, their ranks have swollen to 225 - a solid majority of the
> >> > > >> chamber. This presents not just a roadblock to progress but also
> >> > > >> the
> >> > > >> threat of legislation that could be damaging to the community.
>
> >> > > >> When anti-equality forces controlled Congress for a decade
> >> > > >> (1994-2005), they stymied any progress on LGBT issues, instead
> >> making
> >> > > >> attacks on our community part of their governing agenda. Among
> >> > > >> these
> >> > > >> were: attempting twice to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny
> >> marriage
> >> > > >> equality to same-sex couples nationwide; trying to strip federal
> >> > > >> courts of the authority to hear marriage equality cases; blocking
> >> DC's
> >> > > >> local efforts to provide domestic partnership benefits to its
> >> > > >> employees; cutting funding for HIV prevention, research and
> >> treatment
> >> > > >> despite a growing epidemic, while pouring federal dollars into
> >> > > >> disproven abstinence-only programs that exclude or even denigrate
> >> LGBT
> >> > > >> youth; and standing
>
> ...
>
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Re: Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress

Ah, so now its "predicting".

Its quite simple.

You WANT to congress to step on gays. You NEED them to.

I understand now.

On Jan 7, 11:33 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Their past voting records and campaign platforms speak volumes.
>
> Do you have any idea how stupid not seeing that predictability is?
>
> Nevermind, the answer is more than obvious. You are blind.
>
> On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Do you have any idea how stupid it is to call people anti-gay before
> > they so much as bang a gavel?
>
> > Nevermind, the answer is obvious
>
> > On Jan 7, 9:44 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress.
>
> >> As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
> >> rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
> >> ahead.
>
> >> The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
> >> determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
> >> 111th Congress.
>
> >> The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
> >> to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>
> >> The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
> >> shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> >> anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> >> even split.
>
> >> Look at the figures. And weap.
>
> >> House
> >> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> >> Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
> >> Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
> >> Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>
> >> Senate
> >> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> >> Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
> >> Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
> >> Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>
> >> Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
> >> gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
> >> of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
> >> conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
> >> to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
> >> pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>
> >> This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>
> >> A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
> >> of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>
> >> It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
> >> struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
> >> right thing.
>
> >> More:http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-...
>
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> >> Have a great day,
> >> Tommy
>
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Re: House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views

Lil' Keithie Keith-

You are dead wrong, yet again.

Why don't you speak for youself, instead of portending to know and
understand what I think and feel?

You really are a judgemental Reich wing hack.

On 1/7/11, Keith In Köln <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Greg,
>
> What gets me about folks like Tom, is that they literally cannot think for
> themselves. They are reduced to repeating the hateful, prevaricate spew
> that they hear from sites like Gayapolis, who is written and produced by
> folks just like Tommy. They haven't had an original thought in their head
> in twenty years. By example, look at the article that Tom posted above.
> There is nothing to support his contention that the 112th Congress is less
> likely to support inherent rights or personal protections, if anything, the
> Tea Party movement has stood on embracing all aspects of the Constitution.
> Boehmer just had the Constitution read aloud on the House Floor to
> demonstrate this new Congress's devotion and determination of getting back
> to the principals of the Constitution.
>
> Folks like Tom and those at Gayapolis can provide no data that supports
> their position that the current Congress is less likely to somehow be the
> big bad wolf to the homosexuals in the Nation, all he can do is play upon
> fear, as you pointed out. Their rhetoric is hypocritical, in that their
> actions are exactly what Tom (and probably Gayapolis, that's where Tommy
> gets his spin and talking points, along with the Daily Kos, TruthOut.org,
> and the Southern Poverty Law Center, all hate sites) were bitching and
> complaining about for the last two years, (and as recently as yesterday;
> "The Grand Obstructionist Party")
>
> Tom has each and every quality of a Moonbat! What's funny, is that he has
> no clue! Tom thinks that he is in step with America, when in fact Tom and
> his far left militant brethren march to a totally different beat of
> different drummers.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, GregfromBoston
> <greg.vincent@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Fear mongering didn't work before the midterm slaughter. It takes a
>> special kind of fool to think it will after it
>>
>> On Jan 7, 10:48 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tom,
>> >
>> > You're a Moonbat.
>> >
>> > Keith
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > > Watch your vulgar language, Lil' Keithie Keith. You are clearly "out
>> > > of the loop" or else "loopy".
>> >
>> > > Gaypolis is an international news, travel, and social website catering
>> > > to the worldwide LGBT community and friends. Homepage index is here:
>> > >http://www.gayapolis.com/search/index.php
>> >
>> > > Here are further emperical statistics and proof to back up the
>> > > satement that the 112th Congress is indeed anti-gay. Did you really
>> > > think that all those Reich wing racist GOP tea partiers would be in
>> > > favor of LGBT civil rights? I think not, Keithie.
>> >
>> > > COMMENTARY: 112th Congress is much less gay friendly, endangering
>> > > equal rights progress
>> > > Ken Williams - SDGLN Editor in Chief
>> > > As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
>> > > rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
>> > > ahead.
>> >
>> > > The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
>> > > determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
>> > > 111th Congress.
>> >
>> > > The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
>> > > to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>> >
>> > > The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
>> > > shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> > > anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> > > even split.
>> >
>> > > Look at the figures. And weap.
>> >
>> > > House
>> > > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> > > Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
>> > > Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
>> > > Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>> >
>> > > Senate
>> > > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> > > Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
>> > > Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
>> > > Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>> >
>> > > Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
>> > > gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
>> > > of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
>> > > conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
>> > > to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
>> > > pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>> >
>> > > This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>> >
>> > > A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
>> > > of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>> >
>> > > It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
>> > > struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
>> > > right thing.
>> >
>> > > More:
>> >
>> > >http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-.
>> ..
>> >
>> > > On 1/7/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Tom?
>> >
>> > > > Who the Fuck is "Gayapolis"??
>> >
>> > > > Let's review:
>> >
>> > > > *"Last year's elections that resulted in the loss of the US House of
>> > > > Representatives to an anti- equality leadership, along with more
>> > > anti-lgbt
>> > > > senators," *
>> > > > **
>> > > > Says who? How has this person or entity come to this conclusion?
>> The
>> > > 112th
>> > > > Congress has not even got their seats warmed up yet, and "Gayapolis"
>> is
>> > > > clamoring that the body politic is, "Anti-Gay" already?
>> >
>> > > > One would have to think that yours, (and "Gayapolis's) mind is made
>> up,
>> > > and
>> > > > that no matter what this recently elected Congress does, you will be
>> > > opposed
>> > > > to whatever measures they take. Wasn't it you that was just
>> > > > recently calling the Republican Party the "Obstructionist Party";
>> and
>> > > the
>> > > > "Party of No"? Don't you see the hypocracy?
>> >
>> > > > By all accounts, the 112th Congress would appear to have this fresh
>> new
>> > > idea
>> > > > of upholding the United States Constitution, in particular those
>> clauses
>> > > > that embrace personal protections, inherent rights and equal
>> protections
>> > > for
>> > > > all citizens. This is where the Gay Community is so, so, so
>> > > > misguided. Those who believe that they are entitled to "more"
>> rights
>> > > and
>> > > > privileges than the rest of Americans would portray anyone that
>> opposes
>> > > them
>> > > > as, "Anti Gay" or a homophobe.
>> >
>> > > > Such statements by "Gayapolis" and other far left extremist,
>> > > > militant
>> Gay
>> > > > organizations hurts the cause(s) for all Gays in general. It is a
>> > > turn-off
>> > > > to the majority of all Americans, and I would think to the majority
>> of
>> > > > thinking Gay Americans.
>> > > > Tom, why don't you take the initiative, and condemn such
>> organizations as
>> > > > "Gayapolis", on behalf of the Gay Community? Now is the time to
>> take a
>> > > > stand, and stop the hate, lies and smear!
>> >
>> > > > KeithInKöln
>> >
>> > > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > >> We must protest loudly!
>> >
>> > > >> House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views
>> >
>> > > >> This New Year brings new challenges for lesbian, gay, bisexual and
>> > > >> transgender people, but also new opportunities. Last year's
>> elections
>> > > >> that resulted in the loss of the US House of Representatives to an
>> > > >> anti- equality leadership, along with more anti-lgbt senators, will
>> > > >> certainly impede - but not entirely stop - pro-lgbt federal
>> > > >> legislative efforts. looking at the states however, there are clear
>> > > >> opportunities for advancing an equality agenda, including in the
>> area
>> > > >> of relationship recognition for same-sex couples. of course,
>> anti-lgbt
>> > > >> forces will to try to turn back the clock at every opportunity, and
>> > > >> fair-minded americans will continue to be vigilant to preserve
>> > > >> pro-equality laws across the country.
>> >
>> > > >> CONGRESS
>> >
>> > > >> As the new Congress is sworn in this week, there is no denying that
>> > > >> pro-LGBT numbers have shrunk on Capitol Hill. A Human Rights
>> Campaign
>> > > >> analysis shows a pick-up of 53 House seats to anti-LGBT lawmakers
>> > > >> as
>> > > >> well as a 5 seat addition in the Senate. Not only do those opposing
>> > > >> basic equality hold positions of power as House leaders and
>> committee
>> > > >> chairmen, their ranks have swollen to 225 - a solid majority of the
>> > > >> chamber. This presents not just a roadblock to progress but also
>> > > >> the
>> > > >> threat of legislation that could be damaging to the community.
>> >
>> > > >> When anti-equality forces controlled Congress for a decade
>> > > >> (1994-2005), they stymied any progress on LGBT issues, instead
>> making
>> > > >> attacks on our community part of their governing agenda. Among
>> > > >> these
>> > > >> were: attempting twice to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny
>> marriage
>> > > >> equality to same-sex couples nationwide; trying to strip federal
>> > > >> courts of the authority to hear marriage equality cases; blocking
>> DC's
>> > > >> local efforts to provide domestic partnership benefits to its
>> > > >> employees; cutting funding for HIV prevention, research and
>> treatment
>> > > >> despite a growing epidemic, while pouring federal dollars into
>> > > >> disproven abstinence-only programs that exclude or even denigrate
>> LGBT
>> > > >> youth; and standing in the way of openly-LGBT appointees.
>> >
>> > > >> More:
>> > > >>http://www.gayapolis.com/news/artdisplay.php?artid=6140
>> >
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Re: Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress

Their past voting records and campaign platforms speak volumes.

Do you have any idea how stupid not seeing that predictability is?

Nevermind, the answer is more than obvious. You are blind.

On 1/7/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Do you have any idea how stupid it is to call people anti-gay before
> they so much as bang a gavel?
>
> Nevermind, the answer is obvious
>
> On Jan 7, 9:44 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Further emperical proof and statistics on the new anti-gay 112th Congress.
>>
>> As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
>> rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
>> ahead.
>>
>> The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
>> determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
>> 111th Congress.
>>
>> The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
>> to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>>
>> The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
>> shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
>> even split.
>>
>> Look at the figures. And weap.
>>
>> House
>> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
>> Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
>> Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>>
>> Senate
>> --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
>> Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
>> Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
>> Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>>
>> Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
>> gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
>> of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
>> conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
>> to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
>> pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>>
>> This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>>
>> A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
>> of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>>
>> It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
>> struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
>> right thing.
>>
>> More:http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-...
>>
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Re: House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views

Hey Greg,
 
What gets me about folks like Tom, is that they literally cannot think for themselves.   They are reduced to repeating the hateful, prevaricate spew that they hear from sites like Gayapolis, who is written and produced by folks just like Tommy.  They haven't had an original thought in their head in twenty years.  By example, look at the article that Tom posted above.  There is nothing to support his contention that the 112th Congress is less likely to support inherent rights or personal protections, if anything, the Tea Party movement has stood on embracing all aspects of the Constitution.  Boehmer just had the Constitution read aloud on the House Floor to demonstrate this new Congress's devotion and determination of getting back to the principals of the Constitution. 
 
Folks like Tom and those at Gayapolis can provide no data that supports their position that the current Congress is less likely to somehow be the big bad wolf to the homosexuals in the Nation,  all he can do is play upon fear, as you pointed out.   Their rhetoric is hypocritical, in that their actions are exactly what Tom (and probably Gayapolis, that's where Tommy gets his spin and talking points,  along with the Daily Kos, TruthOut.org,  and the Southern Poverty Law Center, all hate sites)  were bitching and complaining about for the last two years, (and as recently as yesterday;  "The Grand  Obstructionist Party") 
 
Tom has each and every quality of a Moonbat!   What's funny, is that he has no clue!  Tom thinks that he is in step with America, when in fact Tom and his far left militant brethren march to a totally different beat of different drummers.
 
 
 
 

 
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 4:52 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
Fear mongering didn't work before the midterm slaughter.  It takes a
special kind of fool to think it will after it

On Jan 7, 10:48 am, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> You're a Moonbat.
>
> Keith
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Watch your vulgar language, Lil' Keithie Keith. You are clearly "out
> > of the loop" or else "loopy".
>
> > Gaypolis is an international news, travel, and social website catering
> > to the worldwide  LGBT community and friends. Homepage index is here:
> >http://www.gayapolis.com/search/index.php
>
> > Here are further emperical statistics and proof to back up the
> > satement that the 112th Congress is indeed anti-gay. Did you really
> > think that all those Reich wing racist GOP tea partiers would be in
> > favor of LGBT civil rights? I think not, Keithie.
>
> > COMMENTARY: 112th Congress is much less gay friendly, endangering
> > equal rights progress
> > Ken Williams - SDGLN Editor in Chief
> > As a more conservative 112th Congress is being sworn in today, gay
> > rights supporters are bracing for major challenges that will lie
> > ahead.
>
> > The Human Rights Campaign (HRC) has surveyed the new Congress and
> > determined that there are many more anti-LGBT legislators than in the
> > 111th Congress.
>
> > The HRC analysis shows a swing of 53 House seats and five Senate seats
> > to anti-LGBT lawmakers.
>
> > The Republican domination in the November elections has caused a huge
> > shift in Congress. The House swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> > anti-LGBT majority. The Senate swings from a pro-LGBT majority to an
> > even split.
>
> > Look at the figures. And weap.
>
> > House
> > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> > Anti-LGBT ----- 172 ----- 225 ----- +53
> > Pro-LGBT ----- 196 ----- 167 ------ -29
> > Mixed record ---65 ------- 43 ----- -22
>
> > Senate
> > --------------- 111th ----- 112th ----- Variance
> > Anti-LGBT ------ 35 ------- 40 -------- +5
> > Pro-LGBT ------ 42 ------- 40 -------- -2
> > Mixed record -- 23 ------- 20 -------- -3
>
> > Although there is circumstantial evidence that social issues such as
> > gay rights are becoming less of a campaign issue for Republicans, many
> > of the new members of Congress were supported by right-wing
> > conservatives and the so-called Tea Party faithful who are less likely
> > to give an inch on marriage equality or anti-discrimination laws. The
> > pressure will be intense on the new legislators to toe the party line.
>
> > This does not bode well for progress on equal rights.
>
> > A key question is whether the 112th Congress will try to roll back any
> > of the progress that has been achieved so far.
>
> > It is imperative that the LGBT community and its allies in the
> > struggle for equal rights keep up the pressure on Congress to do the
> > right thing.
>
> > More:
>
> >http://www.sdgln.com/commentary/2011/01/05/commentary-112th-congress-...
>
> > On 1/7/11, Keith In Köln <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Tom?
>
> > > Who the Fuck is "Gayapolis"??
>
> > > Let's review:
>
> > > *"Last year's elections that resulted in the loss of the US House of
> > > Representatives to an anti- equality leadership, along with more
> > anti-lgbt
> > > senators," *
> > > **
> > > Says who?  How has this person or entity come to this conclusion?  The
> > 112th
> > > Congress has not even got their seats warmed up yet, and "Gayapolis" is
> > > clamoring that the body politic is, "Anti-Gay" already?
>
> > > One would have to think that yours, (and "Gayapolis's)  mind is made up,
> > and
> > > that no matter what this recently elected Congress does, you will be
> > opposed
> > > to whatever measures they take.  Wasn't it you that was just
> > > recently calling the Republican Party the "Obstructionist Party";  and
> > the
> > > "Party of No"?  Don't you see the hypocracy?
>
> > > By all accounts, the 112th Congress would appear to have this fresh new
> > idea
> > > of upholding the United States Constitution, in particular those clauses
> > > that embrace personal protections, inherent rights and equal protections
> > for
> > > all citizens.   This is where the Gay Community is so, so, so
> > > misguided.   Those who believe that they are entitled to "more" rights
> > and
> > > privileges than the rest of Americans would portray anyone that opposes
> > them
> > > as, "Anti Gay"  or a homophobe.
>
> > > Such statements by "Gayapolis" and other far left extremist, militant Gay
> > > organizations hurts the cause(s) for all Gays in general.   It is a
> > turn-off
> > > to the majority of all Americans, and I would think to the majority of
> > > thinking Gay Americans.
> > > Tom, why don't you take the initiative, and condemn such organizations as
> > > "Gayapolis", on behalf of the Gay Community?   Now is the time to take a
> > > stand, and stop the hate, lies and smear!
>
> > > KeithInKöln
>
> > > On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> We must protest loudly!
>
> > >> House of Representatives Now Has Majority With Anti Gay Views
>
> > >> This New Year brings new challenges for lesbian, gay, bisexual and
> > >> transgender people, but also new opportunities. Last year's elections
> > >> that resulted in the loss of the US House of Representatives to an
> > >> anti- equality leadership, along with more anti-lgbt senators, will
> > >> certainly impede - but not entirely stop - pro-lgbt federal
> > >> legislative efforts. looking at the states however, there are clear
> > >> opportunities for advancing an equality agenda, including in the area
> > >> of relationship recognition for same-sex couples. of course, anti-lgbt
> > >> forces will to try to turn back the clock at every opportunity, and
> > >> fair-minded americans will continue to be vigilant to preserve
> > >> pro-equality laws across the country.
>
> > >> CONGRESS
>
> > >> As the new Congress is sworn in this week, there is no denying that
> > >> pro-LGBT numbers have shrunk on Capitol Hill. A Human Rights Campaign
> > >> analysis shows a pick-up of 53 House seats to anti-LGBT lawmakers as
> > >> well as a 5 seat addition in the Senate. Not only do those opposing
> > >> basic equality hold positions of power as House leaders and committee
> > >> chairmen, their ranks have swollen to 225 - a solid majority of the
> > >> chamber. This presents not just a roadblock to progress but also the
> > >> threat of legislation that could be damaging to the community.
>
> > >> When anti-equality forces controlled Congress for a decade
> > >> (1994-2005), they stymied any progress on LGBT issues, instead making
> > >> attacks on our community part of their governing agenda. Among these
> > >> were: attempting twice to amend the U.S. Constitution to deny marriage
> > >> equality to same-sex couples nationwide; trying to strip federal
> > >> courts of the authority to hear marriage equality cases; blocking DC's
> > >> local efforts to provide domestic partnership benefits to its
> > >> employees; cutting funding for HIV prevention, research and treatment
> > >> despite a growing epidemic, while pouring federal dollars into
> > >> disproven abstinence-only programs that exclude or even denigrate LGBT
> > >> youth; and standing in the way of openly-LGBT appointees.
>
> > >> More:
> > >>http://www.gayapolis.com/news/artdisplay.php?artid=6140
>
> > >> --
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> > >> Have a great day,
> > >> Tommy
>
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