Tuesday, October 12, 2010

Re: Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

Isn't Cheneys daughter a lesbian ?? Didn't she have an open pass to the VP and President for Eight years ??

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Cheney is  a war criminal who belongs in prison.
 
Paladino is likely a criminal, too, and he is unfit to be Governor.

 
On 10/12/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
So was Dick Cheney. So what ??

On Oct 12, 12:37 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Wrong again.*
> **
> *Paladino is a homophobic hypocrite.*
>
> On 10/12/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > NEW YORK – Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino said in
> > separate appearances Monday that he stands up for the rights of everyone,
> > including gays, but thinks young children shouldn't be exposed to
> > homosexuality, especially at gay pride parades<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101011/ap_on_el_gu/us_governor_s_race_pa...>
> > .
> > "They wear these little Speedos and they grind against each other and it's
> > just a terrible thing," Paladino said Monday on NBC's "Today" show. "Why
> > would you bring your children to that?"
>
> > ------------
>
> > I agree, one hundred percent with Mr, Paladino.   I am not a homophobe, and
> > anyone, including all Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered individuals should also
> > agree with the aforementioned.
>
> >  On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>  Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and
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> >> is being called the worst anti-gay violence in recent memory, two
> >> 17-year-old boys and a 30-year-old man were kidnapped and sexually tortured<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/nyregion/09bias.html?ref=nyregion>in the Bronx because they are gay. The nine thugs allegedly responsible for
> >> this atrocity are in custody.
>
> >> According to Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, the alleged
> >> perpetrators have not expressed remorse. They deserve to be punished to the
> >> fullest extent of the law. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he "was sickened by
> >> the brutal nature of these crimes and saddened by the anti-gay bias that
> >> contributed to them." Mr. Bloomberg was joined in his unequivocal outrage
> >> and condemnation by Gov. David Paterson, City Council Speaker Christine
> >> Quinn and Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the New York Archdiocese.
>
> >> And then there's Carl Paladino. In a stunning display of tone-deafness and
> >> bigotry, the Republican candidate for governor said this about homosexuality
> >> during a speech <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKL9TRaePww> on Sunday:
> >> "That's not how God created us. . . . I just think my children and your
> >> children would be much better off and much more successful getting married
> >> and raising a family, and I don't want them brainwashed into thinking that
> >> homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option -- it isn't."
>
> >> The last two weeks have been ugly for gay men and lesbians -- and for
> >> America. In addition to the violence in the Bronx, there have been attacks
> >> on homosexuals in other parts of New York City and suicides of gay teenagers
> >> across the country who were literally bullied to death.
>
> >> Where do bullies get their ammunition, the hurtful slurs that eat away at
> >> the self-esteem of those who are gay or lesbian? What makes someone feel
> >> it's okay to verbally and physically harass, maim or even kill?
>
> >> One source is politicians such as Mr. Paladino who continue to espouse
> >> their belief that being gay is an immoral or unnatural "lifestyle" choice
> >> that can be changed at will. As long as such dehumanizing ignorance and
> >> intolerance go unchallenged, the horrors and suicides will continue.
> >> More:
>
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/11/AR201...
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Re: Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians



Do you have the CONTEXT of these purported statements?

Regard$,
--MJ

There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they areable to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs. -- Booker T. Washington



By Alan Gomez, USA TODAY
New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino drew rebukes Monday for comments he made over the weekend, saying children shouldn't be "brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality" is acceptable. He said activities at gay pride parades are "disgusting."

"That's not how God created us," Paladino told a group of Orthodox Jewish leaders Sunday, "and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."

Re: GOP parade of horribles: Carl Paladino

Carl Paladino stands by anti-gay comments
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New York GOP gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino fields a reporter's question at a stop in Buffalo on Wednesday.
By Don Heupel, AP
New York GOP gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino fields a reporter's question at a stop in Buffalo on Wednesday.
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New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino drew rebukes Monday for comments he made over the weekend, saying children shouldn't be "brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality" is acceptable. He said activities at gay pride parades are "disgusting."

"That's not how God created us," Paladino told a group of Orthodox Jewish leaders Sunday, "and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) said Paladino's comments put gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people "in harm's way." The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said they "incite violence against people for being who they are."

To political observers, the remarks were the latest in a series of statements that could cement Paladino's image — good or bad — in the minds of New York voters. Grant Reeher, a political science professor at Syracuse University, said voters rarely establish an image of a candidate based on one statement or one vote. Instead, they take a series of comments or votes to create that image.

The comments Sunday were not Paladino's first controversy. He forwarded to friends e-mails portraying President Obama as a pimp and first lady Michelle Obama as a prostitute, then refused to disavow them. He has called his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, "despicable" and told a reporter "I'll take you out" during a heated exchange.

"You might take a look at one (comment) and say, 'Here's Carl Paladino being a little quirky,' " Reeher said. "You start to do this over and over and over again, even when you're not under the heat of someone up in your face, and it begins to build a very clear impression."

Jul Thompson, chief administrator of TEA New York, a Tea Party group that supports Paladino, said the multimillionaire developer from Buffalo won't lose any supporters based on his comments on homosexuality. "These are just distractions," Thompson said. "I don't fault Mr. Paladino for it. I fault the media for making an issue out of it."

In several TV interviews Monday morning, Paladino said he didn't regret the comments.

Groups such as GLAAD say Paladino's comments were particularly disturbing because they came within hours of eight people being arraigned in an attack on a gay man and two gay teens in the Bronx on Oct. 3, and three weeks after a Rutgers University freshman committed suicide after classmates secretly videotaped him in a sexual encounter with a male student. "Preaching hate from our pulpits, in our politics or to our pupils is simply unacceptable," the Rev. Rebecca Voelkel of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said in a written statement. "It literally endangers lives."

In a Siena College poll released last Tuesday, likely voters supported Cuomo 56%-32%.


http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2010-10-11-paladino-new-york_N.htm
On 10/12/10, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

If your claims are true, why not point to these "statements" and "mailers" providing appropriate citation?

Regard$,
--MJ

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At 02:36 PM 10/12/2010, you wrote:
Again, Democrats are not Marxists, Sucialists, or Communists. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat again.
 
And you are wrong again. Paladino said  horrible, homophobic, disgusting hateful  things,
and he sent out pornographic mysogynist and racist emails. This angry hypocrytical jerk is unfit to be Governor of New York.

Vote for Andrew Cuomo!



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Re: Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

Carl Paladino stands by anti-gay comments
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New York GOP gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino fields a reporter's question at a stop in Buffalo on Wednesday.
By Don Heupel, AP
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New York Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino drew rebukes Monday for comments he made over the weekend, saying children shouldn't be "brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality" is acceptable. He said activities at gay pride parades are "disgusting."

"That's not how God created us," Paladino told a group of Orthodox Jewish leaders Sunday, "and that's not the example that we should be showing our children."

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) said Paladino's comments put gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people "in harm's way." The National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said they "incite violence against people for being who they are."

To political observers, the remarks were the latest in a series of statements that could cement Paladino's image — good or bad — in the minds of New York voters. Grant Reeher, a political science professor at Syracuse University, said voters rarely establish an image of a candidate based on one statement or one vote. Instead, they take a series of comments or votes to create that image.

The comments Sunday were not Paladino's first controversy. He forwarded to friends e-mails portraying President Obama as a pimp and first lady Michelle Obama as a prostitute, then refused to disavow them. He has called his Democratic opponent, New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, "despicable" and told a reporter "I'll take you out" during a heated exchange.

"You might take a look at one (comment) and say, 'Here's Carl Paladino being a little quirky,' " Reeher said. "You start to do this over and over and over again, even when you're not under the heat of someone up in your face, and it begins to build a very clear impression."

Jul Thompson, chief administrator of TEA New York, a Tea Party group that supports Paladino, said the multimillionaire developer from Buffalo won't lose any supporters based on his comments on homosexuality. "These are just distractions," Thompson said. "I don't fault Mr. Paladino for it. I fault the media for making an issue out of it."

In several TV interviews Monday morning, Paladino said he didn't regret the comments.

Groups such as GLAAD say Paladino's comments were particularly disturbing because they came within hours of eight people being arraigned in an attack on a gay man and two gay teens in the Bronx on Oct. 3, and three weeks after a Rutgers University freshman committed suicide after classmates secretly videotaped him in a sexual encounter with a male student. "Preaching hate from our pulpits, in our politics or to our pupils is simply unacceptable," the Rev. Rebecca Voelkel of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force said in a written statement. "It literally endangers lives."

In a Siena College poll released last Tuesday, likely voters supported Cuomo 56%-32%.

 
More:
On 10/12/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
How so? 
 
Point to what Paladino has said specifically, that makes you believe he is a Homophobe Tom!!
 


 
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Wrong again.
 
Paladino is a homophobic hypocrite.

 
On 10/12/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:

NEW YORK – Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino said in separate appearances Monday that he stands up for the rights of everyone, including gays, but thinks young children shouldn't be exposed to homosexuality, especially at gay pride parades.

"They wear these little Speedos and they grind against each other and it's just a terrible thing," Paladino said Monday on NBC's "Today" show. "Why would you bring your children to that?"
 
------------
 
I agree, one hundred percent with Mr, Paladino.   I am not a homophobe, and anyone, including all Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered individuals should also agree with the aforementioned.
 


 
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Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

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THE NEWS out of New York City this past weekend was horrifying. In what is being called the worst anti-gay violence in recent memory, two 17-year-old boys and a 30-year-old man were kidnapped and sexually tortured in the Bronx because they are gay. The nine thugs allegedly responsible for this atrocity are in custody.

According to Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, the alleged perpetrators have not expressed remorse. They deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he "was sickened by the brutal nature of these crimes and saddened by the anti-gay bias that contributed to them." Mr. Bloomberg was joined in his unequivocal outrage and condemnation by Gov. David Paterson, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn and Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the New York Archdiocese.

And then there's Carl Paladino. In a stunning display of tone-deafness and bigotry, the Republican candidate for governor said this about homosexuality during a speech on Sunday: "That's not how God created us. . . . I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don't want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option -- it isn't."

The last two weeks have been ugly for gay men and lesbians -- and for America. In addition to the violence in the Bronx, there have been attacks on homosexuals in other parts of New York City and suicides of gay teenagers across the country who were literally bullied to death.

Where do bullies get their ammunition, the hurtful slurs that eat away at the self-esteem of those who are gay or lesbian? What makes someone feel it's okay to verbally and physically harass, maim or even kill?

One source is politicians such as Mr. Paladino who continue to espouse their belief that being gay is an immoral or unnatural "lifestyle" choice that can be changed at will. As long as such dehumanizing ignorance and intolerance go unchallenged, the horrors and suicides will continue.

More:

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Re: Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

Cheney is  a war criminal who belongs in prison.
 
Paladino is likely a criminal, too, and he is unfit to be Governor.

 
On 10/12/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
So was Dick Cheney. So what ??

On Oct 12, 12:37 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Wrong again.*
> **
> *Paladino is a homophobic hypocrite.*
>
> On 10/12/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > NEW YORK – Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino said in
> > separate appearances Monday that he stands up for the rights of everyone,
> > including gays, but thinks young children shouldn't be exposed to
> > homosexuality, especially at gay pride parades<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101011/ap_on_el_gu/us_governor_s_race_pa...>
> > .
> > "They wear these little Speedos and they grind against each other and it's
> > just a terrible thing," Paladino said Monday on NBC's "Today" show. "Why
> > would you bring your children to that?"
>
> > ------------
>
> > I agree, one hundred percent with Mr, Paladino.   I am not a homophobe, and
> > anyone, including all Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered individuals should also
> > agree with the aforementioned.
>
> >  On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>  Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and
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> >> is being called the worst anti-gay violence in recent memory, two
> >> 17-year-old boys and a 30-year-old man were kidnapped and sexually tortured<http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/nyregion/09bias.html?ref=nyregion>in the Bronx because they are gay. The nine thugs allegedly responsible for
> >> this atrocity are in custody.
>
> >> According to Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, the alleged
> >> perpetrators have not expressed remorse. They deserve to be punished to the
> >> fullest extent of the law. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he "was sickened by
> >> the brutal nature of these crimes and saddened by the anti-gay bias that
> >> contributed to them." Mr. Bloomberg was joined in his unequivocal outrage
> >> and condemnation by Gov. David Paterson, City Council Speaker Christine
> >> Quinn and Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the New York Archdiocese.
>
> >> And then there's Carl Paladino. In a stunning display of tone-deafness and
> >> bigotry, the Republican candidate for governor said this about homosexuality
> >> during a speech <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKL9TRaePww> on Sunday:
> >> "That's not how God created us. . . . I just think my children and your
> >> children would be much better off and much more successful getting married
> >> and raising a family, and I don't want them brainwashed into thinking that
> >> homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option -- it isn't."
>
> >> The last two weeks have been ugly for gay men and lesbians -- and for
> >> America. In addition to the violence in the Bronx, there have been attacks
> >> on homosexuals in other parts of New York City and suicides of gay teenagers
> >> across the country who were literally bullied to death.
>
> >> Where do bullies get their ammunition, the hurtful slurs that eat away at
> >> the self-esteem of those who are gay or lesbian? What makes someone feel
> >> it's okay to verbally and physically harass, maim or even kill?
>
> >> One source is politicians such as Mr. Paladino who continue to espouse
> >> their belief that being gay is an immoral or unnatural "lifestyle" choice
> >> that can be changed at will. As long as such dehumanizing ignorance and
> >> intolerance go unchallenged, the horrors and suicides will continue.
> >> More:
>
> >>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/11/AR201...
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Re: Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

How so? 
 
Point to what Paladino has said specifically, that makes you believe he is a Homophobe Tom!!
 


 
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Wrong again.
 
Paladino is a homophobic hypocrite.

 
On 10/12/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:

NEW YORK – Republican gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino said in separate appearances Monday that he stands up for the rights of everyone, including gays, but thinks young children shouldn't be exposed to homosexuality, especially at gay pride parades.

"They wear these little Speedos and they grind against each other and it's just a terrible thing," Paladino said Monday on NBC's "Today" show. "Why would you bring your children to that?"
 
------------
 
I agree, one hundred percent with Mr, Paladino.   I am not a homophobe, and anyone, including all Gay, Lesbian and Transgendered individuals should also agree with the aforementioned.
 


 
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:28 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:

Politicians' intolerance help fuel climate of hate against gays and lesbians

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Tuesday, October 12, 2010

THE NEWS out of New York City this past weekend was horrifying. In what is being called the worst anti-gay violence in recent memory, two 17-year-old boys and a 30-year-old man were kidnapped and sexually tortured in the Bronx because they are gay. The nine thugs allegedly responsible for this atrocity are in custody.

According to Police Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, the alleged perpetrators have not expressed remorse. They deserve to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Mayor Michael Bloomberg said he "was sickened by the brutal nature of these crimes and saddened by the anti-gay bias that contributed to them." Mr. Bloomberg was joined in his unequivocal outrage and condemnation by Gov. David Paterson, City Council Speaker Christine Quinn and Archbishop Timothy Dolan of the New York Archdiocese.

And then there's Carl Paladino. In a stunning display of tone-deafness and bigotry, the Republican candidate for governor said this about homosexuality during a speech on Sunday: "That's not how God created us. . . . I just think my children and your children would be much better off and much more successful getting married and raising a family, and I don't want them brainwashed into thinking that homosexuality is an equally valid and successful option -- it isn't."

The last two weeks have been ugly for gay men and lesbians -- and for America. In addition to the violence in the Bronx, there have been attacks on homosexuals in other parts of New York City and suicides of gay teenagers across the country who were literally bullied to death.

Where do bullies get their ammunition, the hurtful slurs that eat away at the self-esteem of those who are gay or lesbian? What makes someone feel it's okay to verbally and physically harass, maim or even kill?

One source is politicians such as Mr. Paladino who continue to espouse their belief that being gay is an immoral or unnatural "lifestyle" choice that can be changed at will. As long as such dehumanizing ignorance and intolerance go unchallenged, the horrors and suicides will continue.

More:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/11/AR2010101105467.html
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Re: GOP parade of horribles: Carl Paladino


If your claims are true, why not point to these "statements" and "mailers" providing appropriate citation?

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At 02:36 PM 10/12/2010, you wrote:
Again, Democrats are not Marxists, Sucialists, or Communists. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat again.
 
And you are wrong again. Paladino said  horrible, homophobic, disgusting hateful  things,
and he sent out pornographic mysogynist and racist emails. This angry hypocrytical jerk is unfit to be Governor of New York.

Vote for Andrew Cuomo!



Ann Coulter Defends Paladino’s Comments About Gays: It’s Like Saying, “Go Cubs!”

Ann Coulter Defends Paladino's Comments About Gays: It's Like Saying, "Go Cubs!"

Reported by Ellen - October 11, 2010 - Comments (12)

I suppose it was inevitable that someone on Fox News was going to defend Carl Paladino's recent remarks about gays. After all, when he threatened to "take out" a New York Post reporter, Mike Huckabee and Sean Hannity gushed and Bill O'Reilly made excuses. But neither Hannity nor O'Reilly (nor Megyn Kelly nor Brian Kilmeade nor Steve Doocy) defended Paladino yesterday (Huckabee's show hasn't aired yet). As the conversation moved on, O'Reilly did seize the opportunity to suggest the Obama administration are ACORN-like reverse racists by once again beating the discredited, dead horse of the New Black Panther Party case.

Coulter told O'Reilly, "I think someone on this network should (stick up for Paladino), this great warrior to cut your taxes, New Yorkers. I mean (when he made the comments about gays), he's speaking to Hasidim… It's like being in Chicago: you say, 'Go Cubs!'"

I've long thought O'Reilly is no fan of Coulter's and he showed more than a little impatience with her here – especially when Coulter opined that Paladino's comments would help him win votes.

Then it was on to Saturday Night Live's send up of Gloria Allred. O'Reilly asked Coulter for a prediction as to whether or not Homeland Security will deport Allred's client, Nicky Diaz, the illegal immigrant at the center of California gubernatorial candidate Meg Whitman's "maidgate."

Coulter thought Homeland Security director "has to" and will deport Diaz. "You make a spectacle of yourself, you're gonna get deported," Coulter said.

O'Reilly argued otherwise. He said, the Department of Justice "had those Black Panthers outside that polling place, dead… They may do the same thing here. You've got Nicky Diaz, obviously using a phony Social Security card… and they may just ignore it."

Coulter said the cases were different "on about five different levels." But she did not note that the main difference is that the New Black Panther "case" is a phony, trumped up controversy. Instead, she added to Fox News' "Obama-DOJ-as-ACORN" meme by saying, "There's the black issue and that's always special and different." She did, however, note that one difference is that voter intimidation "doesn't happen that much" and is not the hot button subject that illegal immigration is.

Well, if voter intimidation is not such a hot subject, it's not for lack of Fox News' trying. To listen to Megyn Kelly earlier this summer, you'd think that scary black men are about to descend on voting booths all across the country this November.

More:
http://www.newshounds.us/2010/10/11/ann_coulter_defends_paladinos_comments_about_gays_its_like_saying_go_cubs.php

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