Friday, September 17, 2010

US Political Establishment Ignoring Threat of Sharia









http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/sep/14/needed-a-second-opinion-on-shariah/

 

WOOLSEY & MCCARTHY & SOYSTER: Second opinion needed on Shariah

Our political establishment wears blinders and ignores the threat

By R. James Woolsey, Andrew C. McCarthy and Harry E. Soyster

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The Washington Times

6:00 p.m., Tuesday, September 14, 2010

MugshotIllustration: Shariah sword

It is time for a "Team B" approach to Islamist ideology. The strategy has worked before, against a similarly determined threat to freedom. In 1976, George H.W. Bush, then director of central intelligence, invited a group of known skeptics about the strategy of detente to review the classified intelligence regarding Soviet intentions and capabilities. The point was to provide an informed second opinion on U.S. policy toward the Kremlin.

The conclusions of this experimental Team B study differed sharply from the government's regnant theory. The skeptics found that, pursuant to its communist ideology, the Soviet Union was determined to secure the defeat of the United States and the West and to tyrannize the globe. Thus, not only was detente unlikely to succeed, but national-security policies undertaken in its pursuit exposed the nation to grave danger. The study was particularly persuasive to former California Gov. Ronald Reagan, who would use it not only to challenge the detentist policies of the Ford and Carter administrations but to build the strategy that ultimately brought down the "Evil Empire."

Today, the United States faces a similarly insidious ideological threat: Shariah, the authoritarian doctrine that animates the Islamists and their jihadism. Translated as "the path," Shariah is a comprehensive framework designed to govern all aspects of life. Though it certainly has spiritual elements, it would be a mistake to think of it as a "religious" code in the Western sense because it seeks to regulate all manner of behavior in the secular sphere - economic, social, military, legal and political. That regulation is oppressive, discriminatory, utterly inimical to our core constitutional liberties and destructive of equal protection under the law, especially for women.

We consequently have joined a group of security-policy practitioners and analysts in subjecting this ideology and its adherents to a new Team B study. Our assessment challenges bedrock assumptions of current American policy on combating (and minimizing) what the government calls "extremism" and on engaging (and appeasing) Shariah proponents who claim to reject terrorism. These proponents are described, wrongly, as "moderates" because they appear content to achieve their patently immoderate designs through political-influence operations, "lawfare" and subversion. Participants in the study constitute a rich reservoir of national security experience drawn from military, intelligence, homeland security, law enforcement and academic backgrounds.

Our study does not perfectly replicate the Team B work of a generation ago. We have not been encouraged by our government, which, under administrations of both parties, has been immovably content to wear its blinders. Nor have we been invited to review classified information. These, however, have hardly been insuperable obstacles. What Americans need to know is ready to hand in the public record. The problem isn't access to information, it is coming to grips with what available information portends for our security.

Shariah is the crucial fault line of Islam's internecine struggle. On one side of the divide are Muslim reformers and authentic moderates - figures like Abdurrahman Wahid, the late president of Indonesia and leader of the world's largest liberal Muslim organization, Nahdlatul Ulama - who embrace the Enlightenment's veneration of reason and, in particular, its separation of the spiritual and secular realms. On that side of the divide, Shariah is defined as but a reference point for a Muslim's personal conduct, not a corpus to be imposed on the life of a pluralistic society.

The other side of the divide is dominated by "Islamists," who are Muslim supremacists. Like erstwhile proponents of communism and Nazism, these supremacists - some terrorists, others employing stealthier means - seek to impose a global theocratic and authoritarian regime, called a caliphate. On this side of the divide, Shariah is a compulsory system that Muslims are obliged to wage jihad to install and to which the rest of the world is required to submit.

For these ideologues, Shariah is not a private matter. They see the West as an infidel enemy to be conquered, not a culture and civilization to be embraced or at least tolerated. It is impossible, they maintain, for alternative legal systems and forms of government like ours to coexist peacefully with the end-state they seek.

It is not the burden of our study to broker competing claims about which side of the Shariah divide represents the "true Islam." There are approximately 1.4 billion Muslims in the world, and their understandings about their belief system, as well as their practices with respect to it, vary widely. There may not be a single "true Islam." If there is one, we do not presume to pronounce what it holds.

What cannot be denied credibly, however, is that Shariah is firmly rooted in Islam's doctrinal texts, and it is favored by influential Islamic commentators, institutions, traditions and academic centers. For more than a half-century, moreover, Shariah Islam has been financed lavishly and propagated by Islamic governmental entities (particularly Saudi Arabia, Iran and the Organization of the Islamic Conference) through the offices of disciplined international organizations, particularly the Muslim Brotherhood. We know from an internal 1991 memorandum authored by one of the Brotherhood's U.S. leaders that its mission is a "grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house."

Consequently, we need to come to grips with Shariah. Whether pursued through violent jihad or the stealthier techniques the Brotherhood calls "civilization jihad" or dawa (the call to Islam), Shariah rejects fundamental premises of constitutional governance and American society: the bedrock proposition that the governed have a right to make law for themselves irrespective of any theocratic code; the republican democracy guaranteed by the Constitution; freedom of conscience; individual liberty (including in matters of personal privacy and sexual preference); freedom of expression (including the liberty to analyze and criticize theocratic codes and practices); economic liberty (including private property); equality (including equality of men and women and of Muslims and non-Muslims); freedom from cruel and unusual punishments; an unequivocal condemnation of terrorism (one that does not rationalize barbarity as legitimate "resistance"); and an abiding commitment to deflate and resolve political controversies by the ordinary mechanisms of federalism and democracy, not wanton violence.

Trial evidence has shown, most recently in the terrorism-financing prosecution against an ostensible Islamic "charity" known as the Holy Land Foundation, that Shariah adherents - including a network of Muslim Brotherhood-connected organizations operating in the United States - are seriously pursuing civilization jihad in this country. Their agenda is about power, not faith, and therefore must not be confused with a constitutionally protected form of religious practice. Shariah's ambitions transcend what American law recognizes as the sacrosanct realm of private conscience and belief. It seeks to supplant our Constitution with its own authoritarian framework.

Sometimes the Brotherhood and its friends are supportive of Islamist terrorism, particularly against Israel and against American operations in Islamic countries. Sometimes they strategically condemn terrorist methods (although they are careful to refrain from condemning specific terrorist groups and to blame America for their behavior). In either event, however, the endgame of Islamist ideology is the same whether pursued by terrorists or nonviolent activists: to extort American society into Shariah compliance.

It is vital to the national security of the United States that we do what we can to empower Islam's authentic moderates and reformers. That cannot be done by following the failed strategy of fictionalizing the state of Islam in the vain hope that reality will, at some point, catch up to the benign fable of a thriving moderate Islam beset by a mere handful of aberrant "extremists." Empowering the real moderates requires a candid recognition of the faux moderates and the strength of their Shariah agenda, just as defeat of 20th-century totalitarian ideologies required a gimlet-eyed appreciation of their malevolent capabilities.

The definition of "moderation" needs to be reset, to bore in on the Shariah fault line. Only by identifying those Muslims who wish to impose Shariah can we succeed in marginalizing them. As our study manifests, the Shariah system is utterly anti-American. Those obliged to defend the proposition that it should be adopted here will find few takers and, quite properly, be seen for what they are in the West: marginal and extremist figures. That, and only that, will strengthen true proponents of a moderate or reformist Islam that embraces freedom and equality.

Most important, we must protect our way of life regardless of the ultimate resolution of Islam's internal strife. We can do a far better job of empowering non-Shariah-adherent Muslims who are our natural allies, but we cannot win for them - they have to do that for themselves. Irrespective of whether they succeed in the herculean task of delegitimizing Shariah globally, we must face it down in the United States, throughout the West and wherever on Earth it launches violent or ideological offensives against us.

If we are to face down Shariah, however, we must understand what we are up against, not simply hope that dialogue and "engagement" will make the challenge go away. The brute fact is that Shariah adherents perforce support objectives that are incompatible with the U.S. Constitution, the civil rights it guarantees and the representative government it authorizes. Our security depends on confronting them, not sitting silent as they gradually efface our liberties.

R. James Woolsey was director of central intelligence under President Clinton. Andrew C. McCarthy was the assistant U.S. attorney who prosecuted the perpetrators of the first attack on the World Trade Center. Lt. Gen. Harry E. "Ed" Soyster was director of the Defense Intelligence Agency from 1988 to 1991. Their full report will be available online at ShariahtheThreat.com at noon today.

 



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Re: A message from Lady Gaga to the US Senate Sept 16 2010

"The Annointed One"?
 
Well isn't that a vainity laced and self grandiose title of officious offensiveness.
 
The DADT repeal cloture vote is scheduled for Tuesday in the Senate. It's now or never time!


 
On 9/17/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Tommy,

Who really cares..... ???? The problem is that the military is under
an entirely different Justice system and civil law has NOTHING to do
with a soldier on duty. Lady(?) Gaga is trying to use civil law as a
basis for her argument.... she is as far off base as a frog in the
desert.

Try making the argument within the confines that it must be made...
then we'll talk.

On Sep 17, 10:44 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *Lady GaGa proves that she's more then an entertainer, but a true friend of
> The LGBT Community. Like her or not, she's speaking out for what she
> believes in, and she is a role model for her legions of fans.*
>
> On 9/17/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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>
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> > Good Morning Tom!
>
> > I haven't taken the opportunity to see what it is that Lady GaGa is sharing
> > with the United States Senate, but I do find it notable that you seem to
> > place a lot of emphasis on Lady GaGa's political viewpoints.....
>
> >  On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> >> A message from Lady Gaga to the Senate Sept 16 2010
>
> >> Click Here and pass this on!
>
> >>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG5VK2lquEc
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> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> Have a great day,
> >> Tommy
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Re: What is the 'tea party' and how is it shaking up American politics?

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On Sep 17, 10:46 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Euwe!!
>
> Good to see ya, and thank you for making my point!
>
> Far left, socialist-elitists are scared to death of the Tea Party movement,
> thereby slinging any and all derogatory remarks at the movement, in an
> attempt to discredit the movement.
>
> I am missing a molar by the way, but I did by a lovely crown for it back
> five or six years ago....(You'd never know that I had lost a part of my
> anatomy!!)
>
>
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> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM, euwe <machgie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There isn't one full set of teeth in the entire tea party movement
>
> > On Sep 15, 2:50 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/2010/0915/What-is-the-tea-...
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> > > By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 15, 2010
>
> > > In recent months, the "tea party" movement has swept across the
> > > political landscape, sending shivers through both major political
> > > parties and shaking up this year's midterm elections.
>
> > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> > > Related Stories
> > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> > > Party - All coverage What began as a minor insurgency featuring
> > > protesters waving signs of dubious syntax, followed by racially tinged
> > > conspiracies about President Obama's lineage and religion and
> > > ostentatiously displayed firearms – and cheered on by some
> > > conservative commentators and bloggers – is now winning elections that
> > > could determine the balance of power in the US Congress. (The main
> > > question here is, does the trend favor Republicans or Democrats?)
>
> > > There is no such thing as the "tea party." It is not organized as
> > > such, and in fact the movement in some sense is antiparty – even
> > > though most of its political pot-stirring has been within the GOP.
>
> > > IN PICTURES: Tea Parties
>
> > > Join our conversation about the tea party on Facebook.
> > > The "Taxed Enough Already" movement took initial aim at federal
> > > government attempts to bail out and then stimulate a faltering economy
> > > – attempts that had begun during the Bush administration – as well as
> > > at the Obama administration's push for health-care insurance reform.
>
> > > If the movement had a symbolic beginning, it was in January 2009 with
> > > stock-trader Graham Makohoniuk's call to mail tea bags to members of
> > > Congress. Conservative bloggers took up the theme, CNBC's Rick
> > > Santelli made his famous rant against government help for underwater
> > > home mortgages, and public protests around the country began.
>
> > > Since then, the movement has sprouted (although not been defined or
> > > controlled by) several major organizations.
>
> > > Tea Party Patriots says it has more than 1,000 community-based tea
> > > party groups around the country. The group's mission is to "attract,
> > > educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public
> > > policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility,
> > > Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets," according to
> > > its website.
>
> > > FreedomWorks, chaired by former US House majority leader Dick Armey,
> > > claims "hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers nationwide."
> > > FreedomWorks goes back to 1984, but has become a major source of the
> > > tea party movement's promotion and activities. It was an organizer of
> > > last Sunday's Taxpayer March on Washington.
>
> > > Page: 1 | 2
> > > The Tea Party Express, based in Sacramento, Calif., was a major force
> > > behind the Republican primary victories of Sharron Angle in Nevada,
> > > Joe Miller in Alaska, and Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. It was also
> > > a major donor to Scott Brown's successful campaign for US Senate in
> > > Massachusetts.
>
> > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> > > Related Stories
> > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> > > Party - All coverage There may not be a "tea party" per se, but its
> > > adherents' philosophy and aims are officially represented on Capitol
> > > Hill. In July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota formed the Tea
> > > Party Caucus. Fifty lawmakers quickly joined the group.
>
> > > While national organizations and grass-roots groups have their own
> > > stated goals, there is a tea party manifesto of sorts, which
> > > candidates are being encouraged to endorse. It's the Contract From
> > > America, launched by Ryan Hecker, an attorney and activist in Houston.
>
> > > Meanwhile, a clearer picture of tea partyers is emerging.
>
> > > In March, the Sam Adams Alliance, a Chicago-based nonprofit, issued a
> > > report based on a national survey of the tea party movement, its
> > > leaders, and their motivations.
>
> > > Among the findings:
>
> > > • 86 percent oppose the formation of a third party.
> > > • 36 percent support a 2012 Sarah Palin presidential candidacy.
> > > • 81 percent have a website for their organization.
> > > • 90 percent cited "to stand up for my beliefs" when characterizing
> > > their initial reason for involvement.
> > > • 62 percent identified as Republicans, 28 percent as Independents, 10
> > > percent as "Tea Party."
>
> > > "Tea Party activists are for the most part new to this role," the
> > > report states. "They are neither practiced nor polished in activism;
> > > but having experienced a taste of the empowerment that comes with
> > > action, they feel more than ever that this is their time to act. Above
> > > all, they are motivated by a fear of NOT acting.... Their diversity is
> > > their strength, and they are not a movement that can easily be defined
> > > by those jumping up to lead them. They are powerful and, in this
> > > sense, they are the 'early adopters' of a new type of political
> > > involvement."
>
> > > More recently, the Sam Adams Alliance reports that significant numbers
> > > of newcomers to the tea party movement are dropping their affiliation
> > > with the GOP: Forty-seven percent changed their political affiliation
> > > to "Independent/unaffiliated," 20 percent changed to "other," 20
> > > percent to "Tea Party," and 13 percent to "Libertarian."
>
> > > That's exactly why Republicans as well as Democrats are very concerned
> > > about this new movement in American politics.
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Awkward Argument: Jesse Jackson Says America Shouldn’t be English Only — Jesus Didn’t Speak English




Awkward Argument: Jesse Jackson Says America Shouldn't be English Only — Jesus Didn't Speak English

doctorbulldog | 17 September, 2010 at 9:06 am | Categories: Religion | URL: http://wp.me/p1NPg-6vC

Maybe Jesse Jackson should do us all a favor and just retire:

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Science Czar, John Holdren, Plans to Use the 'Free Market' to Devolve America




Science Czar, John Holdren, Plans to Use the 'Free Market' to Devolve America

These are the fascist, commie loons millions of Americans have unleashed on us by not keeping themselves informed before heading out to the polls:

White House Science Czar Says He Would Use 'Free Market' to 'De-Develop the United States'

By Nicholas Ballasy

(CNSNews.com) - In a video interview this week, White House Office of Science and Technology Director John P. Holdren told CNSNews.com that he would use the "free market economy" to implement the "massive campaign" he advocated along with Population Bomb author Paul Ehrlich to "de-develop the United States."

In his role as President Barack Obama's top science and technology adviser, Holdren deals with issues ranging from global warming to health care.

"A massive campaign must be launched to restore a high-quality environment in North America and to de-develop the United States," Holdren wrote along with Paul and Anne H. Ehrlich in the "recommendations" concluding their 1973 book Human Ecology: Problems and Solutions.

"De-development means bringing our economic system (especially patterns of consumption) into line with the realities of ecology and the global resource situation," Holdren and the Ehrlichs wrote.

"Resources must be diverted from frivolous and wasteful uses in overdeveloped countries to filling the genuine needs of underdeveloped countries," Holdren and his co-authors wrote. "This effort must be largely political, especially with regard to our overexploitation of world resources, but the campaign should be strongly supplemented by legal and boycott action against polluters and others whose activities damage the environment. The need for de-development presents our economists with a major challenge. They must design a stable, low-consumption economy in which there is a much more equitable distribution of wealth than in the present one. Redistribution of wealth both within and among nations is absolutely essential, if a decent life is to be provided for every human being."

CNSNews.com asked Holdren about this passage on Tuesday after he participated in an Environmental Protection Agency forum celebrating the 40th anniversary of the Clean Air Act.

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United Nations Considers International Tax in order to Redistribute the Wealth



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United Nations Considers International Tax in order to Redistribute the Wealth

Just another reason for the United States to get out of the U.N. and let other countries pay to house their headquarters.

Lifesitenews.com reports:

Since its inception in 2006, the Leading Group has promoted what it calls "innovative development financing" that seeks to redistribute wealth on a global scale. The Leading Group's Taskforce on International Financial Transactions Declaration of last December states, "In order to support the achievement of the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs) and other internationally agreed development objectives, development financing must be improved through innovative mechanisms to ensure stable, predictable flows that are complementary to traditional assistance."

Heads of the Leading Group including Japan, Belgium, and France met in Paris two weeks ago to discuss an expert report on innovative financing issued earlier in July. The report was commissioned by their taskforce last October to assess the technical, legal and economic feasibility of a global tax for development. The report maintains that a "global solidarity levy" is the best solution for development funding, since it is the "most appropriate source of revenue to fund public goods and share the wealth generated by globalized economies."

The report suggests that taxing five cents for each $1,000 exchanged could bring in more than $30 billion per year. It also eyes the financial sector as the solution to the world's development funding problems while blaming the sovereign debt problem, especially in Europe, for undermining the ability of governments to meet their promised contributions.

The European Union has adopted the international tax for development cause and now wants push it in the global arena at the UN. The draft of the outcome document for the MDG Summit already makes note of the Leading Group and its taskforce, and adopts the same goals to find stable and sizeable sources of income for development projects. Thus far, the United States and Switzerland stand in opposition to the idea. Global tax proponents have remarked that U.S. support is vital in order to make it happen.

Sixty nations will present a declaration to implement an international currency transaction tax during the UN Millennium Development Goal (MDG) summit that begins next week at United Nations headquarters in New York. As members of the Leading Group on Innovative Financing for Development, these nations will propose a tax they contend is necessary to bridge alleged funding gaps for the MDGs. Estimates judge the gap in development financing to fall between $324-336 billion a year from 2012 to 2017.

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Progressive Name Change Game...WH Wants America to Stop calling it "Global Warming"...now it's "Global Climate Disruption"




Progressive Name Change Game...WH Wants America to Stop calling it "Global Warming"...now it's "Global Climate Disruption"

The Face of Liberal Population Control

Call it what it truly is: Man-made myth or bullshit based on fraudulent data. I call it both.

Fox News reports:

From the administration that brought you "man-caused disaster" and "overseas contingency operation," another terminology change is in the pipeline. 

The White House wants the public to start using the term "global climate disruption" in place of "global warming" -- fearing the latter term oversimplifies the problem and makes it sound less dangerous than it really is. 

White House science adviser John Holdren urged people to start using the phrase during a speech last week in Oslo, echoing a plea he made three years earlier. Holdren said global warming is a "dangerous misnomer" for a problem far more complicated than a rise in temperature. 

The call comes as Congress prepares to adjourn for the season without completing work on a stalled climate bill. The term global warming has long been criticized as inaccurate, and the new push could be an attempt to re-shape climate messaging for next year's legislative session. 

"They're trying to come up with more politically palatable ways to sell some of this stuff," said Republican pollster Adam Geller, noting that Democrats also rolled out a new logo and now refer to the Bush tax cuts as "middle-class tax cuts." 

John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, is a fucking psycho. This is the nut who believes it is the government's job to force abortions via sterilants in drinking water among other left-wing eugenic ideas. All this in the desire to save the planet. Now the nutjob wants to change the terminology of Global Warming to Global Climate Disruption because most liberals are idiots, thus easily fooled.

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Re: White Trash Repairs

I posted the site before Dick posted the specific fixit page link. He may have been aware of the site before I was. No matter as it got posted. Thanks.

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
This is without a doubt, one of the greatest sites on the web!  I dunno who found it first Travis, you or Dick Thompson, but I have been laughing my ass off for the last hour, (I am goofing off this Friday!!)
 
Thanks for sharing, Both Travis & Dick!!
 


 
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:

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Re: What is the 'tea party' and how is it shaking up American politics?

Gingrich is interesting to listen to, but his voting record does not measure up to his rhetoric.

He was the most vocal proponent of the pre-election 1994 Contract with America which, among other things, called for a balanced budget amendment, yet he is on record as having voted
(on 10 March 1994) against a responsible amendment offered by Rep. Gerald Solomon (R-NY) to balance the budget by 1999.

He often voted for amendments that lacked fiscal responsibility.

He routinely voted for unconstitutional environmental amendments that violate the right of the States to regulate such issues.

His votes on federalizing education, creating a national police force, and other legislation which violates states' rights is there for all to see if they will take the time.

Gingrich is not a friend of freedom.


On 9/17/2010 10:25 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
I don't see Kristol and Gingrich necessarily advocating the same types of things, and I also see them apart on a number of issues.  Yes, I like Gingrich.
 


 
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean when you say, "but Newt Gingrich is a far cry from Kristol." Are you saying you like Gingrich?


On 9/17/2010 9:01 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
Interesting perspective Jonathan.....I am no Bill Kristol fan, but Newt Gingrich is a far cry from Kristol and other Neo-Cons.....
 


 
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
Unfortunately, the Tea Party groups are already being co-opted by the likes of Sarah Palin and Dick Armey.

"Palin's public voice is an instrument of great versatility. In a few moments, she can turn from kind to hateful, rational to unhinged. At her best Palin can be folksy and pungent. But she needs outside help to give her voice its national range. For messaging strategy, Palin relies on William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, and Fred Malek, who was an aide to Presidents Richard Nixon and George H. W. Bush. The lawyer Robert Barnett, the most successful literary agent in Washington — his clients range from Hillary Clinton to Dick Cheney to Tony Blair — negotiated Palin's reported $7 million advance for
Going Rogue, and he helps oversee her speaking schedule, which is arranged by the Washington Speakers Bureau. The small inner circle that shapes Palin's voice day to day includes lobbyist Randy Scheunemann, a director of the neoconservative think tank Project for the New American Century, who advises Palin on foreign affairs, and Kim Daniels, a lawyer with the Thomas More Law Center, which has been called "the Christian answer to the A.C.L.U.," who advises her on domestic issues. Palin's speechwriter is Lindsay Hayes. Doug McMarlin and Jason Recher, both of whom did advance work for George W. Bush, serve as body men and confidants."[1]

Armey (along with con man Newt Gingrich) was one of the prime architects of the 1994 Contract With America. It's been 16 years since the Republicans pulled that scam - I'm still waiting for results.


[1] http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2010/10/sarah-palin-201010?currentPage=all



On 9/17/2010 7:53 AM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
Actually, I couldn't disagree more.
 
The Tea Partiers are actually a legitimate, grass roots crew, who the far left socialist-elitists detest.  They are true Americans who have finally stood up to the Marxists in control, and for those of them who have been active in politics, to their own formally conservative Republican Party and demanded a house cleaning, and their party back. 
 
They will make a difference this election, as in 2012, and don't be surprised to see the likes of O'Connell in Delaware, as well as others throughout the Nation to shock a lot of these purported "moderates"  who are pretty much what the Democratic Party used to be. 

On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:29 AM, nominal9 <nominal9@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well... to continue on the same metaphor.... actually, I was speaking
about the Membership of the Tea party Express....Ever hear the
expression
"It isn't what you know it's WHO you know that matters to get ahead in
this world."?.....
I think that the expression holds for the major part (if not all) of
Tea Party Expressers..... just a bunch of social climbing elitist
sorts who get by on their connections and cronyism. But, I've altered
that "expression" about social climbers and such economic parasites a
bit..... I say... It isn't what you know it's WHO'S COCK YOU BLOW that
matters to get ahead in this world.... It was just a  continuation of
the metaphor to get to the "train-like" sound that the Tea Party
Express Train makes..... HAR HAR HAR HAR.... all in parody and satire,
of course....
nominal9
On Sep 15, 8:03 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm doing great Nominal,
>
> So.....When you see Tea Party Patriots,  your mind wanders to having oral
> sex?
>
> Okay.....I think that speaks volumes.....
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I've got this "gag"... hope it doesn't get me censored off this
> > site..... it isn't about any other poster or even about any  one
> > "public personality.... although a "public personality" should be fair
> > game to Satire, Parody and such (Heck, Travis seems to get away with a
> > lot of that)..........It's about the Tea Party Express
> > Do you know what the Tea Party Exress Train sounds like?
> > It goes....
>
> > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
> > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
> > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
> > Cocka-Sucka, Cocka-Sucka. Cocka-Sucka..... Chew... Chew
>
> > HAR...
> > how you doin' Keith from Tampa?
>
> > On Sep 15, 3:50 pm, nominal9 <nomin...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Election-2010/2010/0915/What-is-the-tea-...
>
> > > By Brad Knickerbocker, Staff writer / September 15, 2010
>
> > > In recent months, the "tea party" movement has swept across the
> > > political landscape, sending shivers through both major political
> > > parties and shaking up this year's midterm elections.
>
> > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> > > Related Stories
> > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> > > Party - All coverage What began as a minor insurgency featuring
> > > protesters waving signs of dubious syntax, followed by racially tinged
> > > conspiracies about President Obama's lineage and religion and
> > > ostentatiously displayed firearms – and cheered on by some
> > > conservative commentators and bloggers – is now winning elections that
> > > could determine the balance of power in the US Congress. (The main
> > > question here is, does the trend favor Republicans or Democrats?)
>
> > > There is no such thing as the "tea party." It is not organized as
> > > such, and in fact the movement in some sense is antiparty – even
> > > though most of its political pot-stirring has been within the GOP.
>
> > > IN PICTURES: Tea Parties
>
> > > Join our conversation about the tea party on Facebook.
> > > The "Taxed Enough Already" movement took initial aim at federal
> > > government attempts to bail out and then stimulate a faltering economy
> > > – attempts that had begun during the Bush administration – as well as
> > > at the Obama administration's push for health-care insurance reform.
>
> > > If the movement had a symbolic beginning, it was in January 2009 with
> > > stock-trader Graham Makohoniuk's call to mail tea bags to members of
> > > Congress. Conservative bloggers took up the theme, CNBC's Rick
> > > Santelli made his famous rant against government help for underwater
> > > home mortgages, and public protests around the country began.
>
> > > Since then, the movement has sprouted (although not been defined or
> > > controlled by) several major organizations.
>
> > > Tea Party Patriots says it has more than 1,000 community-based tea
> > > party groups around the country. The group's mission is to "attract,
> > > educate, organize, and mobilize our fellow citizens to secure public
> > > policy consistent with our three core values of Fiscal Responsibility,
> > > Constitutionally Limited Government and Free Markets," according to
> > > its website.
>
> > > FreedomWorks, chaired by former US House majority leader Dick Armey,
> > > claims "hundreds of thousands of grassroots volunteers nationwide."
> > > FreedomWorks goes back to 1984, but has become a major source of the
> > > tea party movement's promotion and activities. It was an organizer of
> > > last Sunday's Taxpayer March on Washington.
>
> > > Page: 1 | 2
> > > The Tea Party Express, based in Sacramento, Calif., was a major force
> > > behind the Republican primary victories of Sharron Angle in Nevada,
> > > Joe Miller in Alaska, and Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. It was also
> > > a major donor to Scott Brown's successful campaign for US Senate in
> > > Massachusetts.
>
> > > Skip to next paragraph View gallery: Tea Parties
> > > Related Stories
> > > 'Tea party' is polarizing, but has many 'closet admirers,' poll finds
> > > 'Tea party' Contract From America: Real plan or bumper sticker? Tea
> > > Party - All coverage There may not be a "tea party" per se, but its
> > > adherents' philosophy and aims are officially represented on Capitol
> > > Hill. In July, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R) of Minnesota formed the Tea
> > > Party Caucus. Fifty lawmakers quickly joined the group.
>
> > > While national organizations and grass-roots groups have their own
> > > stated goals, there is a tea party manifesto of sorts, which
> > > candidates are being encouraged to endorse. It's the Contract From
> > > America, launched by Ryan Hecker, an attorney and activist in Houston.
>
> > > Meanwhile, a clearer picture of tea partyers is emerging.
>
> > > In March, the Sam Adams Alliance, a Chicago-based nonprofit, issued a
> > > report based on a national survey of the tea party movement, its
> > > leaders, and their motivations.
>
> > > Among the findings:
>
> > > • 86 percent oppose the formation of a third party.
> > > • 36 percent support a 2012 Sarah Palin presidential candidacy.
> > > • 81 percent have a website for their organization.
> > > • 90 percent cited "to stand up for my beliefs" when characterizing
> > > their initial reason for involvement.
> > > • 62 percent identified as Republicans, 28 percent as Independents, 10
> > > percent as "Tea Party."
>
> > > "Tea Party activists are for the most part new to this role," the
> > > report states. "They are neither practiced nor polished in activism;
> > > but having experienced a taste of the empowerment that comes with
> > > action, they feel more than ever that this is their time to act. Above
> > > all, they are motivated by a fear of NOT acting.... Their diversity is
> > > their strength, and they are not a movement that can easily be defined
> > > by those jumping up to lead them. They are powerful and, in this
> > > sense, they are the 'early adopters' of a new type of political
> > > involvement."
>
> > > More recently, the Sam Adams Alliance reports that significant numbers
> > > of newcomers to the tea party movement are dropping their affiliation
> > > with the GOP: Forty-seven percent changed their political affiliation
> > > to "Independent/unaffiliated," 20 percent changed to "other," 20
> > > percent to "Tea Party," and 13 percent to "Libertarian."
>
> > > That's exactly why Republicans as well as Democrats are very concerned
> > > about this new movement in American politics.
>
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