Re: Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

The author makes a claim regarding the Van Allen Radiation belt, and my point is that the "discoverer"  of the Van Allen Radiation Belt,  Dr. James Van Allen does not believe that his discovery would have prohibited the Apollo moon landings.

 

 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 5:23 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

The Author did not claim that manned space travel was impossible.
That some guy or everyone believes they were real does not make it so.

The author of THIS specific piece made a comparison to the CLAIMS regarding the Mars landing and what was presented for the Moon landing.
Have anything that speaks to THAT -- specifically the lack of a 'dust storm' and 'dust residue' AND no 'crater'?

Regard$,
--MJ

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At 11:10 AM 8/4/2012, you wrote:

Dr. Van Allen has refuted these claims that manned space travel would be impossible.  Dr. Van Allen does in fact believe that the manned space flights to the Moon back in the late 1960s and early 1970s were quite possible and very real.
 
As for the rest of these allegations and purported claims,  they have been addressed on numerous occasions over the past three and a half decacdes.  I can't speak to all of them, but off the top of my head,  I know that there was never those temperatures with the Apollo module and lunar landing. 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

by Morgan Reynolds

At 12:31 a.m. central time August 6 NASA will bless us with its latest extravaganza, a multi-billion-dollar, decade-long effort to launch a six-wheel rover dubbed 'Curiosity' on the red planet 154 million miles from home. Reading the newspaper one morning, I was amused to learn about the Rube Goldberg "braking" system invented to control landing on Mars. A huge parachute is supposed to slow the craft despite an atmosphere only one percent of the earth's, followed by freefall, then eight rocket engines ignite and lurch the craft out of the path of the trailing parachute somehow previously jettisoned, followed by a second freefall episode beginning at 66 feet altitude followed by a 'sky crane' lowering the rover as it unfurls its wheels, capped off by pyrotechnic charges that send blades to cut the nylon tethers. Oh my.

The rationale for this dubious landing system? "In theory, the rockets could provide a gentle enough landing to finish the job. But in practice, they would kick up such a dust storm that it could ruin the rover." Ah yes, I agree the inevitable dust storm would be a big problem. Engineers must design around that. But why wasn't a dust storm a formidable problem on July 20, 1969, the occasion of man's "greatest technological achievement," landing a man on the moon and returning him safely via Apollo 11? The moon is plenty dusty too.

Dust, or lack of same, is one of many puzzles about the Apollo missions NASA showed us over four decades ago: how the heck could there be no surface disturbance below the lunar module (LM), no crater blown out by the LM's rocket engine? All six moon landings NASA "conducted" (Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17) showed the same 'no hole' below the LM. No disturbance whatever (notice no stars in the background too?). If we trust the NASA-generated "real time" broadcast, Neil Armstrong called the surface " fine and powdery" and continued: "Okay. The descent engine did not leave a crater of any size. It has about one foot clearance on the ground. We're essentially on a very level place here."

 

Click on image to enlarge. Source: NASA

How fortunate. And impossible, well, impossible if the landing was real. There was no dust on the LM support legs or leg pads either and no sign the engine nacelle or ground below it was burned, singed or melted. How could that happen? A 10,000 lb. thrust engine, even if throttled back to 3,000 lb. must blow out a crater, down to bedrock for heaven's sake, making a landing treacherous because of virtually zero visibility and unknown terrain exposed. The motor would generate heat of 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit and even if throttled back to, say, 3,000 d.F., only 1,300-2,400 d.F. is required to melt and fuse rock. None of what we expect happened.

Despite a rocket descent engine allegedly working hard a few feet below Armstrong and Aldrin, incredibly, and I do mean incredibly, Apollo 11's moon landing was remarkably quiet beneath the voices of astronauts and Houston control. It should have been loud as all-get-out, around 140 dB. The engine displayed admirable noise-vibration-harshness properties too, setting off no shake, rattle and roll aboard the flimsy craft, no heat problem, in fact, no problems of any kind. Oddly, Armstrong did not hover like a helicopter pilot does during landing, despite the difficulty of controlling an LM in a vacuum versus earth atmosphere. It was the first time anyone had landed a LM yet reverse thrust control went flawlessly, like everything else with Apollo. By contrast, Armstrong was nearly killed when he could not control the LM simulator on earth in May 1968 but for a timely ejection.

Abundant evidence proves NASA never pulled off the moon landings back in the slide-rule days of the 1960s. The biggest obstacle remains the lethal radiation unprotected astronauts must encounter above low earth orbit from three sources: the Van Allen radiation belts, galactic cosmic rays, and solar particle events, aka sun flares. Radiation makes manned deep space travel impossible to this day. Dr. James Van Allen, credited with discovery of the radiation belts, knew it full well and in 1970 courageously supported U.S. Senator William Proxmire (D, WI) and three other Senators in their attempt to eliminate NASA's manned space flight program. 1

Neil Armstrong could have said, "One small step for man, one giant leap of faith for mankind," injecting a note of honesty into this governmental swindle. The moon fraud will bite the dust eventually, of that there is no doubt, if only because it failed to sprinkle enough moon dust out from under the Lunar Module as well as into our eyes.

Mary Bennett and David S. Percy, Dark Moon: Apollo and the Whistle Blowers, 1999, pp. 310-11.

http://lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds23.1.html

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Re: Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

The Author did not claim that manned space travel was impossible.
That some guy or everyone believes they were real does not make it so.

The author of THIS specific piece made a comparison to the CLAIMS regarding the Mars landing and what was presented for the Moon landing.
Have anything that speaks to THAT -- specifically the lack of a 'dust storm' and 'dust residue' AND no 'crater'?

Regard$,
--MJ

"Sometimes people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed." -- Friedrich Nietzsche





At 11:10 AM 8/4/2012, you wrote:

Dr. Van Allen has refuted these claims that manned space travel would be impossible.  Dr. Van Allen does in fact believe that the manned space flights to the Moon back in the late 1960s and early 1970s were quite possible and very real.
 
As for the rest of these allegations and purported claims,  they have been addressed on numerous occasions over the past three and a half decacdes.  I can't speak to all of them, but off the top of my head,  I know that there was never those temperatures with the Apollo module and lunar landing. 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

by Morgan Reynolds

At 12:31 a.m. central time August 6 NASA will bless us with its latest extravaganza, a multi-billion-dollar, decade-long effort to launch a six-wheel rover dubbed 'Curiosity' on the red planet 154 million miles from home. Reading the newspaper one morning, I was amused to learn about the Rube Goldberg "braking" system invented to control landing on Mars. A huge parachute is supposed to slow the craft despite an atmosphere only one percent of the earth's, followed by freefall, then eight rocket engines ignite and lurch the craft out of the path of the trailing parachute somehow previously jettisoned, followed by a second freefall episode beginning at 66 feet altitude followed by a 'sky crane' lowering the rover as it unfurls its wheels, capped off by pyrotechnic charges that send blades to cut the nylon tethers. Oh my.

The rationale for this dubious landing system? "In theory, the rockets could provide a gentle enough landing to finish the job. But in practice, they would kick up such a dust storm that it could ruin the rover." Ah yes, I agree the inevitable dust storm would be a big problem. Engineers must design around that. But why wasn't a dust storm a formidable problem on July 20, 1969, the occasion of man's "greatest technological achievement," landing a man on the moon and returning him safely via Apollo 11? The moon is plenty dusty too.

Dust, or lack of same, is one of many puzzles about the Apollo missions NASA showed us over four decades ago: how the heck could there be no surface disturbance below the lunar module (LM), no crater blown out by the LM's rocket engine? All six moon landings NASA "conducted" (Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17) showed the same 'no hole' below the LM. No disturbance whatever (notice no stars in the background too?). If we trust the NASA-generated "real time" broadcast, Neil Armstrong called the surface " fine and powdery" and continued: "Okay. The descent engine did not leave a crater of any size. It has about one foot clearance on the ground. We're essentially on a very level place here."

 

Click on image to enlarge. Source: NASA

Re: Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

Dr. Van Allen has refuted these claims that manned space travel would be impossible.  Dr. Van Allen does in fact believe that the manned space flights to the Moon back in the late 1960s and early 1970s were quite possible and very real.

 

As for the rest of these allegations and purported claims,  they have been addressed on numerous occasions over the past three and a half decacdes.  I can't speak to all of them, but off the top of my head,  I know that there was never those temperatures with the Apollo module and lunar landing. 

On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 4:56 PM, MJ <michaelj@america.net> wrote:

Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA
by Morgan Reynolds

At 12:31 a.m. central time August 6 NASA will bless us with its latest extravaganza, a multi-billion-dollar, decade-long effort to launch a six-wheel rover dubbed 'Curiosity' on the red planet 154 million miles from home. Reading the newspaper one morning, I was amused to learn about the Rube Goldberg "braking" system invented to control landing on Mars. A huge parachute is supposed to slow the craft despite an atmosphere only one percent of the earth's, followed by freefall, then eight rocket engines ignite and lurch the craft out of the path of the trailing parachute somehow previously jettisoned, followed by a second freefall episode beginning at 66 feet altitude followed by a 'sky crane' lowering the rover as it unfurls its wheels, capped off by pyrotechnic charges that send blades to cut the nylon tethers. Oh my.

The rationale for this dubious landing system? "In theory, the rockets could provide a gentle enough landing to finish the job. But in practice, they would kick up such a dust storm that it could ruin the rover." Ah yes, I agree the inevitable dust storm would be a big problem. Engineers must design around that. But why wasn't a dust storm a formidable problem on July 20, 1969, the occasion of man's "greatest technological achievement," landing a man on the moon and returning him safely via Apollo 11? The moon is plenty dusty too.

Dust, or lack of same, is one of many puzzles about the Apollo missions NASA showed us over four decades ago: how the heck could there be no surface disturbance below the lunar module (LM), no crater blown out by the LM's rocket engine? All six moon landings NASA "conducted" (Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17) showed the same 'no hole' below the LM. No disturbance whatever (notice no stars in the background too?). If we trust the NASA-generated "real time" broadcast, Neil Armstrong called the surface " fine and powdery" and continued: "Okay. The descent engine did not leave a crater of any size. It has about one foot clearance on the ground. We're essentially on a very level place here."

Click on image to enlarge. Source: NASA

How fortunate. And impossible, well, impossible if the landing was real. There was no dust on the LM support legs or leg pads either and no sign the engine nacelle or ground below it was burned, singed or melted. How could that happen? A 10,000 lb. thrust engine, even if throttled back to 3,000 lb. must blow out a crater, down to bedrock for heaven's sake, making a landing treacherous because of virtually zero visibility and unknown terrain exposed. The motor would generate heat of 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit and even if throttled back to, say, 3,000 d.F., only 1,300-2,400 d.F. is required to melt and fuse rock. None of what we expect happened.

Despite a rocket descent engine allegedly working hard a few feet below Armstrong and Aldrin, incredibly, and I do mean incredibly, Apollo 11's moon landing was remarkably quiet beneath the voices of astronauts and Houston control. It should have been loud as all-get-out, around 140 dB. The engine displayed admirable noise-vibration-harshness properties too, setting off no shake, rattle and roll aboard the flimsy craft, no heat problem, in fact, no problems of any kind. Oddly, Armstrong did not hover like a helicopter pilot does during landing, despite the difficulty of controlling an LM in a vacuum versus earth atmosphere. It was the first time anyone had landed a LM yet reverse thrust control went flawlessly, like everything else with Apollo. By contrast, Armstrong was nearly killed when he could not control the LM simulator on earth in May 1968 but for a timely ejection.

Abundant evidence proves NASA never pulled off the moon landings back in the slide-rule days of the 1960s. The biggest obstacle remains the lethal radiation unprotected astronauts must encounter above low earth orbit from three sources: the Van Allen radiation belts, galactic cosmic rays, and solar particle events, aka sun flares. Radiation makes manned deep space travel impossible to this day. Dr. James Van Allen, credited with discovery of the radiation belts, knew it full well and in 1970 courageously supported U.S. Senator William Proxmire (D, WI) and three other Senators in their attempt to eliminate NASA's manned space flight program. ¹

Neil Armstrong could have said, "One small step for man, one giant leap of faith for mankind," injecting a note of honesty into this governmental swindle. The moon fraud will bite the dust eventually, of that there is no doubt, if only because it failed to sprinkle enough moon dust out from under the Lunar Module as well as into our eyes.

1. Mary Bennett and David S. Percy, Dark Moon: Apollo and the Whistle Blowers, 1999, pp. 310-11.

http://lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds23.1.html

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Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA

Moon Dust, Rocket Engines, and NASA
by Morgan Reynolds

At 12:31 a.m. central time August 6 NASA will bless us with its latest extravaganza, a multi-billion-dollar, decade-long effort to launch a six-wheel rover dubbed 'Curiosity' on the red planet 154 million miles from home. Reading the newspaper one morning, I was amused to learn about the Rube Goldberg "braking" system invented to control landing on Mars. A huge parachute is supposed to slow the craft despite an atmosphere only one percent of the earth's, followed by freefall, then eight rocket engines ignite and lurch the craft out of the path of the trailing parachute somehow previously jettisoned, followed by a second freefall episode beginning at 66 feet altitude followed by a 'sky crane' lowering the rover as it unfurls its wheels, capped off by pyrotechnic charges that send blades to cut the nylon tethers. Oh my.

The rationale for this dubious landing system? "In theory, the rockets could provide a gentle enough landing to finish the job. But in practice, they would kick up such a dust storm that it could ruin the rover." Ah yes, I agree the inevitable dust storm would be a big problem. Engineers must design around that. But why wasn't a dust storm a formidable problem on July 20, 1969, the occasion of man's "greatest technological achievement," landing a man on the moon and returning him safely via Apollo 11? The moon is plenty dusty too.

Dust, or lack of same, is one of many puzzles about the Apollo missions NASA showed us over four decades ago: how the heck could there be no surface disturbance below the lunar module (LM), no crater blown out by the LM's rocket engine? All six moon landings NASA "conducted" (Apollo 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17) showed the same 'no hole' below the LM. No disturbance whatever (notice no stars in the background too?). If we trust the NASA-generated "real time" broadcast, Neil Armstrong called the surface " fine and powdery" and continued: "Okay. The descent engine did not leave a crater of any size. It has about one foot clearance on the ground. We're essentially on a very level place here."

Click on image to enlarge. Source: NASA

How fortunate. And impossible, well, impossible if the landing was real. There was no dust on the LM support legs or leg pads either and no sign the engine nacelle or ground below it was burned, singed or melted. How could that happen? A 10,000 lb. thrust engine, even if throttled back to 3,000 lb. must blow out a crater, down to bedrock for heaven's sake, making a landing treacherous because of virtually zero visibility and unknown terrain exposed. The motor would generate heat of 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit and even if throttled back to, say, 3,000 d.F., only 1,300-2,400 d.F. is required to melt and fuse rock. None of what we expect happened.

Despite a rocket descent engine allegedly working hard a few feet below Armstrong and Aldrin, incredibly, and I do mean incredibly, Apollo 11's moon landing was remarkably quiet beneath the voices of astronauts and Houston control. It should have been loud as all-get-out, around 140 dB. The engine displayed admirable noise-vibration-harshness properties too, setting off no shake, rattle and roll aboard the flimsy craft, no heat problem, in fact, no problems of any kind. Oddly, Armstrong did not hover like a helicopter pilot does during landing, despite the difficulty of controlling an LM in a vacuum versus earth atmosphere. It was the first time anyone had landed a LM yet reverse thrust control went flawlessly, like everything else with Apollo. By contrast, Armstrong was nearly killed when he could not control the LM simulator on earth in May 1968 but for a timely ejection.

Abundant evidence proves NASA never pulled off the moon landings back in the slide-rule days of the 1960s. The biggest obstacle remains the lethal radiation unprotected astronauts must encounter above low earth orbit from three sources: the Van Allen radiation belts, galactic cosmic rays, and solar particle events, aka sun flares. Radiation makes manned deep space travel impossible to this day. Dr. James Van Allen, credited with discovery of the radiation belts, knew it full well and in 1970 courageously supported U.S. Senator William Proxmire (D, WI) and three other Senators in their attempt to eliminate NASA's manned space flight program. ¹

Neil Armstrong could have said, "One small step for man, one giant leap of faith for mankind," injecting a note of honesty into this governmental swindle. The moon fraud will bite the dust eventually, of that there is no doubt, if only because it failed to sprinkle enough moon dust out from under the Lunar Module as well as into our eyes.

1. Mary Bennett and David S. Percy, Dark Moon: Apollo and the Whistle Blowers, 1999, pp. 310-11.

http://lewrockwell.com/reynolds/reynolds23.1.html

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اژدھا کے منہ میں چار سال ملاعبدالسلام ضعیف سابق سفیر افغانستان برائے پاکستان قسط پنجم:-بحری قید خانے میں           جب تھوڑے بہت اوسان بحال ہوئے تو دیکھا کہ یہ ایک بالکل تنگ سی جگہ ہے جہاں تین دیگر چھوٹے چھوٹے کمرےتھے۔ اس کے علاوہ ایک چھوٹی سی ڈسپنسری بھی تھی جس میں متعین اہل کار ہر وقت موجود رہتا تھا۔ یہاں پانی اور واش روم کا انتظام بھی تھا۔ میں نے اندازہ لگا لیا کہ یہ وہ سمندری جہاز ہے جو افغانستان میں جنگ کی خاطر امریکہ نے بحر ہند میں متعین کردیا تھا۔ اس جہاز میں نیچے کی جانب چھٹی منزل پر میں مقید تھا۔ میں نے نہ تو سمندر دیکھا تھا اور نہ یہ بحر ی جہاز کیونکہ یہاں لاتے وقت میری آنکھیں مکمل طور پر سیاہ پٹی سے باندھی گئی تھیں اور اوپر سے موٹے اور سیاہ کپڑے سے بنا ہوا تھیلا بھی پہنا دیا گیا تھا جس نے مجھے دیکھنے سے مکمل طور پر محروم کیا ہوا تھا لیکن صبح و شام بحری جہاز کے انجنوں کی گڑگڑاہٹ اور حرکت سےاندازہ ہوتا تھا کہ میں امریکہ کے ایک بحری جہاز کی نچلی منزل پر قید ہوں۔           اس کے باوجود کہ مجھ پر سخت خوف طاری تھا، آنکھیں مشکل سے حرکت کرتی تھیں اور زبان تو سوکھ کر تالو سے چپک گئی تھی، ذہن مستعدی سے سوچ بچار میں مصروف تھا۔ بائیں طرف کا کمرہ خاصا بڑا لگ رہا تھا اور گمان ہوتا تھا کہ کئی دیگر قیدی بھی اس کمرے میں موجود ہوں گے۔ صبح ہوتے ہیں سب کی تلاشی ہوئی، ناشتہ دیا گیا۔ اس سرگرمیوں سے اندازہ ہوا کہ ایک اور بھائی بھی یہاں لائے گئے ہیں۔ ہم بات نہیں کرسکتے تھے لیکن ایک دوسرے کو دیکھ سکتے تھے۔ کئی قیدی روٹی کے بہانےاپنے کمرے سے چھپ چھپ کر مجھے دیکھ رہے تھے اور میں بھی دُزدیدہ نگاہوں سے ان کا جائزہ لیا کرتا تھا۔ ایک دودن بعد مجھے معلوم ہوا کہ ملا فاضل محمد، نوراللہ انوری صاحب، برہان وثیق صاحب اور غلام روحانی صاحب بھی یہاں موجود ہیں لیکن شدید خواہش کے باوجود ہم گفتگو نہیں کرسکے بس حسرت بھری نگاہوں سے ایک دوسرے کو دیکھتے رہے۔           صبح ہوئی تو مجھے ہتھکڑیاں لگا دی گئیں اور دائیں طرف  ایک کمرے میں لے جایا گیا جہاں تفتیش کا پہلا مرحلہ شروع ہوا۔ کاغذ پر مختلف پہلووں سے میری انگلیوں کے نشان لیے گئے۔ بائیوگرافی لکھ دی گئی، کئی تصویریں اتاری گئیں لیکن کوئی پوچھ گچھ کیے بغیر واپس اپنے قفس میں لایا گیا۔ یہاں آکر دیکھا کمرے میں مزید کچھ چیزیں رکھ دی گئیں تھیں۔ ایک کمبل اور رضائی کا اضافہ ہوچکا تھا جس کی مجھے شدید ضرورت تھی۔ سفید رنگ کی قابوں میں کچھ خوراک بھی موجود تھی جو ایک فرائی انڈے اور نیم پختہ چاولوں پر مشتمل تھی۔ کھانا کھانے کی سکت نہیں تھی بس چکھنے پر اکتفاء کیا۔ برتن فوراً فوجیوں کے حوالہ کردیے اور چند لمحے آرام کا ارادہ کیا۔ ابھی آنکھ لگی ہی تھی کہ ہتھ کڑیوں کی جھنکار اور سپایہوں کے شور و غل سے بیدار ہوا۔ انھوں نے دوبارہ ہتھکڑیاں لگا دیں اور اسی کمرہ ء تفتیش میں پہنچا دیا۔           تحقیق و تفتیش کے اس دوسرے مرحلے میں بہت کم سوالات پوچھے گئے جو تمام اسامہ بن لادن اور ملا عمر کے متعلق تھے۔ کہاں ہیں یہ لوگ؟ کیسے ہیں؟ کہاں تھے؟اور کہاں چلے گئے؟ اور عام طور پر طالبان کے متعلق کہ یہ لوگ کون تھے اور کہاں غائب ہوئے۔ اس کے علاوہ ایک سول جو مختصر تھا لیکن بار بار پوچھا جا رہا تھا وہ نائن الیون کے متعلق تھا۔"آپ کو اس واقعےکے متعلق کچھ علم ہے یا آپ نے کچھ سنا تو نہیں ہے؟"           یہ بات ان کے علم میں تھی کہ نائن الیون کے واقعات میں نہ میرا کوئی ہاتھ تھا اور نہ مجھے علم تھا کہ اس حادثے کے پیچھے کون ہے؟اورشاید یہ کسی کو بھی پتا نہ چلے کہ اس حادثے کے ذمہ دار کون تھے؟ہزاروں مسلمان شہید کردیے گئے۔ ان گنت قید خانوں میں پڑے سڑ رہے ہیں لیکن ابھی تک امریکہ اس بات پر قادر نہ ہوسکا کہ ایک حقیقی ملزم عدالت میں پیش کرسکے نہ امریکی عوام کو کوئی شافی جواب دے سکا۔بے بنیاد الزام لگا کر کسی کو بھی بغیر کسی قانونی جواز اور ثبوت کے گرفتار کر لیا جاتا ہے ، ملکوں کو تباہ و برباد کردیا جاتا ہے، ہر قسم کی اخلاقی،انسانی اقدا ر کو پاوں تلے روندا جاتا ہے۔ جس کو چاہے دہشت گرد کا لیبل لگا کر بدنام کیا جاتا ہے اور تباہ و برباد کیا جاتا ہے۔ہمارے حکمرانوں کے قویٰ کمزور ہوچکے ہیں اس لیے وہ اس سازش  کا پردہ چاک نہیں کرسکے بلکہ امریکہ کی ہر جائز و ناجائز خواہش کو پورا کرنا اپنے باعثِ افتخار سمجھتے ہیں۔           چار پانچ دن اسی طرح تفتیش ہوتی رہی۔ بالکل الٹے سیدھے سوالات ہورہے تھے۔ لیکن یہاں میرے لیے یہ امر باعثِ اطمینان تھا کہ ان چار پانچ دنوں میں مجھ پر کوئی جسمانی تشدد نہیں ہوا نہ کوئی سزا ہوئی اور نہ کوئی خاص ذہنی اذیت دی گئی۔ لیکن اتنی تنگ جگہ میں مطلوبہ ضروریات میسر نہ ہونے کی وجہ سے زندگی کے یہ لمحے گزارنا انتہائی مشکل ہورہا تھا۔           اس جہاز پر پانچ چھے دن ہی گزرے تھے کہ صبح ناشتہ کرنے کے بعد بھورے رنگ کی ایک وردی تھما دی گئی اور حکم ہوا کہ پہلی والی وردی اتار کر یہ وردی پہن لوں۔ چند لمحے بعد منتقلی کی کارروائی شروع ہوئی ۔ ہم سب کے ہاتھ پاوں باندھ دیے گئے، سر پر سفید پلاسٹک کے تھیلے پہنا دیے گئے تا کہ کچھ نظر نہ آسکے۔ معلوم نہیں اب کون سا اذیت ناک مرحلہ درپیش تھا۔ باقی آئندہ

**JP** Daily Quran and Hadith ***PLEASE IGNORE LAST EMAIL****

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**JP** Career opportunity

 

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JOB OPPORTUNITY

 

A Multan based NGO having its network in 13 districts of Punjab and two field offices in Rahim Yar Khan and Rajan Pur, in continuation of its interventions on humanitarian assistance of the flood victims, is launching its nine months' rehabilitation program in two union councils of district Muzaffar Garh for which we are looking for following competent, hardworking and honest professionals:

 

Sr.	Position	Qty.	Qualification	Experience	Age
1	Project Manager	1	Master in Social Sciences or in Relevant Discipline	At least 5 Years in Social Sector particularly in Humanitarian Assistance and livelihood	25-40 Years
2	Field Officer	2	Graduate	At least 3 Years in Social Sector particularly in Humanitarian Assistance and livelihood	25-35 Years

 

We are an equal opportunity employer therefore; female and minority candidates are also encouraged to apply. The deadline of submission of the application along with CV and relevant documents is August 10, 2012. Only short listed candidates will be called for an interview. The candidates are requested to mark clearly the position on the envelope while sending the applications on the following address or email.

 

Address: HRM Department, P. O. Box 226, Multan

 

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What's Sweden Doing That The U.S. Is Overlooking?

 
With Most of Europe Still on Its Back, Sweden Tries Policies That Actually work
By Matt Kibbe, Forbes 8/2/12
http://www.forbes.com/sites/mattkibbe/2012/08/02/with-most-of-europe-still-on-its-back-sweden-tries-policies-that-actually-work/ 
 
The headlines from across the pond read "Europe Rejects Austerity" as the French and Greeks elected socialists and even some neo-national socialists to office. These new officials have promised tax rates as high as 75 percent on millionaires, and have vowed to continue government spending unabashed in the wake of staggering levels of debt and anemic economic growth and persistent double- digit unemployment. However, there is one finance minister in one European nation that is bucking the trend, and, instead of ridicule and failure, he's been named Europe 's best finance minister by the Financial Times. He's not from Britain or Germany and certainly isn't Greek. He isn't some old fat cat in a suit either. In fact he's famous for rocking a pretty awesome ponytail and gold earring. His name is Anders Borg and he's Swedish.
 
That's right, the European nation famously stereotyped for having aggressive taxation to fund an omnipresent state has actually decided that in response to the Eurozone crisis and the continued effects of the global economic downturn, or "Great Recession", that it's time to ease up on taxes and reduce the size of government. While Sweden is not technically in the Eurozone, as it does not use the Euro as currency, it has been drawn into the financial mess of the Eurozone by sheer proximity. Unemployment in 2011 was north of 7.5 percent and GDP growth was anemic at .4 percent projected for 2012.
 
While the rest of Europe and the United States have gone on massive spending sprees fueled by government borrowing and tax hikes, Sweden took a different approach. In the Spring 2012 Economic and Budget Policy Guidelines, the Swedish Government and its Finance Minister, Anders Borg, have laid out a plan that is focused on lowering taxes. Their rationale? "When indviduals and families get to keep more their income, their independence and their opportunities to shape their own lives also increase."
 
Borg also wants to lower the corporate tax rate as a way of meeting the government's goal of "full employment". The government has already cut property taxes and other luxury taxes on the rich to lure investors and entrepreneurs back to Sweden . The government has also slashed spending across the board, including on the welfare programs that used to be Sweden 's claim to fame. They've also installed caps on annual government expenditures: real and enforceable limits that the Swedes believe are pivotal to economic stability. They explain in their Policy Guidelines that "the expenditure ceiling is the Government's most important tool for meeting the surplus." Imagine that, a government that stays within its limits. So why didn't Sweden hop on the stimulus bandwagon like the U.S. and much of Europe ?
 
Anders Borg explains, "Look at Spain , Portugal or the UK , whose governments were arguing for large temporary stimulus… Well, we can see that very little of the stimulus went to the economy. But they are stuck with the debt." We have now seen that attempts at austerity within the Eurozone have met a similar fate: none of it was serious. As spending increases have been squandered, spending cuts have been a charade, failing to target the big government programs at the core of the debt crisis. So Anders Borg and the Swedish Government have undertaken an economic and budget plan that slashes taxes and (actually) caps government spending. If you told Paul Krugman and the rest of the Keynesians back at the onset of the financial crisis that Sweden 's finance minister was planning such action, they would have surely laughed in your face and cynically predicted doom and gloom for the Scandinavian nation. However, in reality, a place Keynesians seem to
be unfamiliar with, it's become clear that what Sweden is doing is working. And it's working better than even Minister Borg expected.
 
Despite slow projected growth for 2012, Sweden is expecting annual GDP growth of over 3 percent starting next year, projected out through 2016 by which time their unemployment is expected to slide down to just about 5 percent. During this time the Swedish gross debt is expected to drop from 37.7 percent/GDP to 22.5 percent/GDP as a result of government surpluses. For comparison, US gross debt to GDP is well over 100 percent and climbing. All this success must be on the backs of the working class right? Wrong. Wages are slated to rise in Sweden by nearly 4 percent annually through 2016.
 
The recovery-by-stimulus model has failed across the board, and as Mr. Borg has pointed out, we are still stuck with the damage it has done. With the refusal of the Obama administration, Congress, and their European counterparts to accept serious spending cuts, maybe it's time to try something that's actually working. Heck, I'll even grow the pony tail.
 
Matt Kibbe @mkibbe is the president and CEO of FreedomWorks and author of "Hostile Takeover: Resisting Centralized Government's Stranglehold on America ."
 

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