On 1/23/11, Keith In Köln <
keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Like on most issues, you are obviously missing the big picture here Lil'
> Tommie;
>
> "Olbermann 'was' the highest rated host on MSNBC"; is just like saying,
> "Olbermann was listened to by only a very small fringe element", and
> whatever NBC's thoughts were, whether NBC gambled and thought that they
> could attract a large audience of Moonbats; or whether the folks (who are on
> their way out) at NBC let their personal opinions get in the way, and they
> believed the kind of crap that MSNBC was broadcasting, matters none
> anymore. It was a dismal failure, never profitable, very
> un-American, and it ruined a once fine news network/broadcasting
> company. NBC News became a laughing stock. NBC News was no longer credible
> as a news agency. Tom Brokaw and others cringed at the likes of Chris
> Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, and others. NBC attempted to put these
> indivudals up on their networks as legitimate news reporters, and they were
> not. They were biased, partisan hacks, who espoused a point of view that
> was very much believed in, and catered to, by a very smalll minority of
> people in this Nation, the individuals like you who are misguided, and who
> have Marxist and communist tendencies.
>
> No matter, it's done now, and hopefully NBC can rebuild its reputation as a
> legitimate news agency, like FOX News, which is the LEADER in the news
> gathering business today! The opinion shows on FOX News that you reference,
> (Not news shows Lil' Tommie) that you so hate and despise, are popular
> beyond belief! Whether you like it, or don't like it, get used to
> it! FOX News is now the leader in news gathering, and their opinion
> shows ain't going no-where!!!
>
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> On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Tommy News <
tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Not annoyed, amused. Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen
>> Van Snide of Mouth, Ann Coulter, Pitbull Palin, and The Rest Of The
>> Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>>
>> On 1/22/11, Sage2 <
wisdom812@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > As an old radio talk show host Jerry Williams often would
>> > ask ! " What's the matter Tommy ? You sound ANNOYED " !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> ***************************************************************************************************************************************
>> >
>> > On Jan 22, 11:56 am, Tommy News <
tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Say Goodnight Faux Noise, Glenn Beck, Gretchen Van Snide of Mouth and
>> >> The Rest Of The Crazy Wing Nut Unfair and Unbalanced Pundits
>> >>
>> >> On 1/22/11, Keith In Köln <
keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Once Comcast completes the buy-out from G.E., rest assured that
>> >> > NBC,
>> >> > and
>> >> > MSNBC will return to profitability, and hopefully, a sense of
>> >> > rationality.
>> >> > I tend to believe this is the reason that Moonbat extradordiniare
>> >> > Olbermann
>> >> > flew the coop now, versus being termianted. The writing was on the
>> >> > wall.
>> >> > Say G'Night Maddow, Schultz, and the rest of the crazy
>> >> > Anti-American's.....Your fifteen minutes of fame are over!
>> >>
>> >> >> Olbermann Leaves 'Countdown' on MSNBC
>> >> >> By BILL CARTER
>> >>
>> >> >> Virginia Sherwood/MSNBC
>> >>
>> >> >> Keith Olbermann in November.
>> >> >> 12:05 a.m. | Updated Keith Olbermann, the highest-rated host on
>> MSNBC,
>> >> >> announced abruptly on the air Friday night that he was leaving his
>> >> >> show, "Countdown," immediately.
>> >>
>> >> >> The host, who has had a stormy relationship with the management of
>> the
>> >> >> network for some time, especially since he was suspended for two
>> >> >> days
>> >> >> last November, came to an agreement with NBC's corporate management
>> >> >> late this week to settle his contract and step down.
>> >>
>> >> >> In a closing statement on his show, Mr. Olbermann said simply that
>> >> >> it
>> >> >> would be the last edition of the program. He offered no explanation
>> >> >> other than on occasion "all that surrounded the show – but never the
>> >> >> show itself – was just too much for me."
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann thanked his viewers for their enthusiastic support of
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> show that had "gradually established its position as
>> >> >> antiestablishment."
>> >>
>> >> >> In a statement, MSNBC said: "MSNBC and Keith Olbermann have ended
>> >> >> their contract. The last broadcast of 'Countdown with Keith
>> Olbermann'
>> >> >> will be this evening. MSNBC thanks Keith for his integral role in
>> >> >> MSNBC's success and we wish him well in his future endeavors."
>> >>
>> >> >> NBC executives said the move had nothing to do with the impending
>> >> >> takeover of NBC Universal by Comcast. With viewers and fans of Mr.
>> >> >> Olbermann suggesting that Comcast was responsible for forcing Mr.
>> >> >> Olbermann out, Comcast also released an official statement late
>> Friday
>> >> >> night:
>> >>
>> >> >> "Comcast has not closed the transaction for NBC Universal and has no
>> >> >> operational control at any of its properties including MSNBC. We
>> >> >> pledged from the day the deal was announced that we would not
>> >> >> interfere with NBC Universal's news operations. We have not and we
>> >> >> will not."
>> >>
>> >> >> MSNBC announced that "The Last Word" with Lawrence O'Donnell would
>> >> >> replace "Countdown" at 8 p.m., with "The Ed Show" with Ed Schultz
>> >> >> taking Mr. O'Donnell's slot at 10 p.m. Mr. Olbermann did not discuss
>> >> >> any future plans, but NBC executives said one term of his settlement
>> >> >> would keep him from moving to another network for an extended period
>> >> >> of time.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann signed a four-year contract extension in 2008 for an
>> >> >> estimated $30 million. He had hosted "Countdown" at 8 p.m. since
>> >> >> 2003
>> >> >> and it became the foundation of the channel's surge to its status as
>> >> >> the second-ranked news channel on cable television, after Fox News,
>> >> >> surpassing the one-time leader CNN.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann's outspoken, and sometimes controversial, support of
>> >> >> liberal positions and Democratic candidates redefined MSNBC from a
>> >> >> neutral news channel to one that openly offered a voice to viewers
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> the left, much as Fox News has done for conservatives.
>> >>
>> >> >> Mr. Olbermann challenged Fox News publicly on numerous occasions,
>> >> >> especially the top-rated cable host Bill O'Reilly.
>> >>
>> >> >> Ratings for Mr. Olbermann's show grew, though he never approached
>> >> >> Mr.
>> >> >> O'Reilly's level of popularity. But he helped expand the MSNBC brand
>> >> >> by his frequent invitations to Rachel Maddow, who was eventually
>> >> >> offered her own show on MSNBC.
>> >>
>> >> >> Ms. Maddow became the 9 p.m. host following Mr. Olbermann and has
>> >> >> built such a successful show that some NBC executives felt less
>> >> >> concerned about losing Mr. Olbermann as the signature star of the
>> >> >> network.
>> >>
>> >> >> According to several senior network executives, NBC's management had
>> >> >> been close to firing Mr. Olbermann on previous occasions, most
>> >> >> recently in November after he revealed that he had made donations to
>> >> >> several Democratic candidates in 2010 — one of them, coincidentally,
>> >> >> was Representative Gabrielle Giffords, who has been the subject of
>> >> >> many of his recent shows after being shot in an assassination
>> attempt.
>> >>
>> >> >> The top MSNBC executive, Phil Griffin, said the donations had
>> violated
>> >> >> NBC News standards and ordered Mr. Olbermann suspended. His fans
>> >> >> responded with a petition to reinstate him that attracted over
>> 250,000
>> >> >> signatures. Mr. Olbermann returned two days later. In his response
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> said the rules on donations had been "inconsistently applied."
>> >>
>> >> >> More:
>> >>
>> >> >>
>>
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last...
>> >>
>> >> >> Keith Olbermann out at MSNBC
>> >> >> By Greg Sargent
>> >> >> So Keith Olbermann is out. As best as I can tell, none of the news
>> >> >> accounts about his departure have gotten to the bottom of what
>> >> >> happened here. But Olbermann himself offered enough clues in his
>> final
>> >> >> broadcast for us to reasonably speculate that he abruptly got the
>> >> >> ax,
>> >> >> perhaps even as late as last night.
>> >>
>> >> >> A "knowledgeable official" at MSNBC told Howard Kurtz that the
>> >> >> separation was "mutual." But it's hard to see how that squares with
>> >> >> this, from Olbermann's last words on Countdown last night:
>> >>
>> >> >> "I think the same fantasy has popped into the head of everybody in
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> business who has ever been told what I have been told, that this is
>> >> >> going to be the last edition of your show. You go directly to the
>> >> >> scene from the movie 'Network,' complete with the pajamas, and the
>> >> >> raincoat, and you go off on an existential, otherworldly journey of
>> >> >> profundity and vision...
>> >>
>> >> >> "When I resigned from ESPN 13 and a half years ago, I was literally
>> >> >> given 30 seconds to say goodbye at the very end of my last edition
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> "Sports Center." As God is my witness, in the commercial break just
>> >> >> before the emotional moment, the producer got into my earpiece and
>> >> >> he
>> >> >> said, `uh, can you cut it down to 15 seconds, so we can get in this
>> >> >> tennis result from Stuttgart? So I'm grateful that I have a little
>> >> >> more time to sign off here."
>> >>
>> >> >> Between this and the shell-shocked look Olbermann had last night, it
>> >> >> seems clear that he may have been abruptly informed that he was
>> >> >> history, perhaps even during last night's show. That would also
>> square
>> >> >> with the experience of Josh Marshall, who was actually on Olbermann
>> >> >> last night and had no sense that anything was amiss.
>> >>
>> >> >> We already know that MSNBC president Phil Griffin had been gunning
>> for
>> >> >> Olbermann for some time now. MSNBC was reportedly close to firing
>> >> >> Olbermann on several occasions. Recall that during the ridiculous
>> flap
>> >> >> over Olbermann's political donations, in which he responded to his
>> >> >> suspension with a show of public defiance, Griffin flatly told
>> >> >> Olbermann's representative: "We are at war."
>> >>
>> >> >> Soon enough we'll have a clearer sense of why this happened, and we
>> >> >> can deal with it then. But for now, let's thank Olbermann for all
>> >> >> his
>> >> >> hard work. He's rich, popular and has a huge following that's likely
>> >> >> to follow him to his next endeavor. He'll be just fine.
>> >>
>> >> >> What of Olbermann's legacy? There's a great deal of crowing on the
>> >> >> right about Olbermann's apparent ouster. But let's be clear on what
>> he
>> >> >> accomplished: He helped clear a huge space on the airwaves for
>> >> >> "unapologetic liberalism," as Steve Benen puts it, when it remained
>> >> >> anything but certain that such a space could be created with any
>> >> >> measure of success.
>> >>
>> >> >> The unexpected popularity of Olbermann's show early on cleared the
>> way
>> >> >> for MSNBC to stack its nighttime lineup with pugnacious lefty hosts.
>> >> >> Indeed, it was Olbermann who invited Rachel Maddow on repeatedly as
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> guest, raising her profile to the point where she got her own show.
>> >> >> Olbermann, followed by Maddow, proved in the face of enormous
>> >> >> skepticism that there's a huge audience out there for real liberal
>> >> >> talk-show hosts to adopt the sort of take-no-prisoners approach once
>> >> >> monopolized by the right. Only they accomplished this without
>> >> >> descending into the crackpot conspiracy mongering and all-around
>> >> >> ugliness of Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck.
>> >>
>> >> >> Indeed, there's already talk that CNN might be interested in picking
>> >> >> up Olbermann. While that seems unlikely, given CNN's more staid air,
>> >> >> the mere fact that it's being discussed at all shows how much he
>> >> >> helped change the landscape.
>> >>
>> >> >> Olbermann may be gone, but the space he did so much to help create
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> here to stay.
>> >>
>> >> >> More:
>> >>
>> >> >>
>>
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/21/olbermann-hosts-last...
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>> >> >> Have a great day,
>> >> >> Tommy
>> >>
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