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Choosing the Safest Path to ENDA

Op-ed: Choosing the Safest Path to ENDA
When the president decided not to sign an executive order banning
discrimination against LGBT people by federal contractors, he might
have thought further ahead than some activists.

By Andrew Tobias, op-ed contributor

Our community is disappointed the president has not signed an
executive order that would be the equivalent of the Employment
Non-Discrimination Act for federal contractors. The administration
has said it prefers a lasting legislative solution — ENDA itself —
that cannot be easily rescinded by the next president and that would
apply to all employers, not just federal contractors.

Of course, the current Congress won't pass ENDA. But that isn't where
the political logic should stop on this question.

Because ENDA is popular nationally, and because there is the very real
possibility we can return the Speaker's gavel to Nancy Pelosi November
6, it's not inconceivable it could pass next year. If Republicans
block it in the Senate, the president would then have even more reason
to sign an executive order — and at least three more years for it to
remain in effect and prove its worth (instead of eight months if
signed now and Romney wins).

Many cannot accept the administration's delay. Others think it's in
our own best interest in the long run. Let's start with the easy part.
We agree on two things:

(1) We deserve full equality now.

(2) We'll do much better with President Obama (and the kind of Supreme
Court justices he'll appoint) than with President Romney (and his
justices).

So it seems to me there are just two questions remaining on whether to
implement an executive order right now:

(1) How much risk, if any, is there that signing it could help Mitt
Romney win? Nationwide, ENDA enjoys strong support. But is there a
risk that a swing state like Virginia or North Carolina could be lost?
Picture such a state flooded with $20 million in grotesquely unfair,
Willie Horton-type ads featuring trial lawyers suing small business
owners over employee bathroom issues.

2. How much risk should we take to get the order signed this year
rather than next?

If you are certain that the answer to question Number 1 is "zero" –
that we couldn't possibly lose more votes than we gain in swing states
— then you either believe that Karl Rove and the Koch brothers would
never stoop to exploiting us in hateful ways, or you believe the
Virginia electorate is too sophisticated in matters of gender identity
to fall for any of it. In which case, that's that: The decision, for
you, is an easy one.

But if you think there may be some small risk — say 5% — then there's
a trade-off. On the one hand, we get the executive order now. On the
other hand, we risk seeing it rescinded when Romney takes office. We
risk seeing the Supreme Court lost for 20 years, seeing 40 million
people lose the health insurance they were finally going to get,
seeing those of us with "pre-existing conditions" once again at risk,
seeing yet more denial of the environmental challenges that quite
literally threaten humanity, and seeing a concerted effort to roll
back much of the LGBT progress made these last three years. (Here is
that progress. Are any of the listed items steps McCain/Palin would
have taken?)

http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality

Having lived through the Bush years because of the narrowest of losses
in swing states such as Florida and New Mexico (and the loss in
Tennessee), I am risk averse. And the stakes in 2012 are even higher
than they were in 2000.

To be "courageous" on the topic of the executive order may actually
mean standing up to those who would risk everything to get it a year
sooner.

Reasonable people can disagree about the best strategy – whether to
take the small risk of catastrophe or wait a year.

I believe that people on both sides of this issue are ardently
pro-equality – as is the Obama administration. (Again, I refer you to
that list.)

http://www.equalitygiving.org/Accomplishments-by-the-Administration-and-Congress-on-LGBT-Equality

More:
http://www.advocate.com/Politics/Commentary/Oped_Choosing_the_Safest_Path_to_ENDA/

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Why Conservatives Have Lost the Political Battle for America's Soul

Why Conservatives Have Lost the Political Battle for America's Soul
by Gary North

This was posted on one of GaryNorth.com forums.

The battle for America's political soul is always fought on the battlefield of federal politics. That's why conservatives lose, generation after generation."

Dr. North, would you please elaborate on this, why you believe the battle for America's political soul is fought in Federal politics and why it is that conservatives continue to lose, generation after generation?

From the time of the ratification of the United States Constitution, American politics shifted to the national level. One of the things that I realized late in my career, even though I had been trained as an historian of the colonial period, was this: it is virtually impossible to write a history of the United States after 1788 without dividing it into four-year segments. Presidential election years set the tone for the direction of the country, and this has been true ever since the early 19th century, when the federal government's share of the economy was minimal. It is not a matter simply of money; it is a matter of political legitimacy. Issues of legitimacy are much more important than issues of taxation. Legitimacy tells what the taxes will be spent on. That is far more important than the amount of taxes collected.

The problem is this: voting for the President, who is the only representative of all the people, is functionally a covenantal act. People ratify a particular President, and in doing so, they transfer authority and legitimacy to him and to his administration.

Prior to the ratification of the Constitution, these events were limited to state and local governments, and before that to colonial governments that were technically under the authority of the King of England. Politics was local, and the great issues of the day were also local. These issues differed from state to state, or from colony to colony.

There was no national civil government. There was no national political issue that confronted citizens in every region. Because there was no national government, there was no means of covenant ratification, which first took place in 1788. There was no means of covenant renewal nationally. So, people did not think of themselves as Americans; they thought of themselves as residents of their particular state.

It is difficult to write a history of the United States politically prior to 1775. Other than the American Revolution, there were no national political events. There were so many different colonies, and so many different issues, that the focus of the historian of necessity moves to issues of economics, social institutions, literary trends, political theory in general, marriage patterns, church planting, and basically nonpolitical issues. These are what conservatives regard, at least in theory, as the central issues of civilization.

The problem with political conservatives today is that the Constitution created a national government, and this national government has the power to tax. It has grown systematically and without reversal since 1788. The issues of the day are increasingly those of national politics, because the federal government extracts a greater percentage of the public's wealth than any other single institution. When there is that much loot to be divvied up, everybody wants to get his hands into the pile of loot. In taking this money, the government legitimizes certain activities of the government, and these activities steadily replace private institutions and local governments. The money that the government collects baptizes the various proposals that special interest groups have for national renewal. Renewal is seen as political. It takes a lot of money to redo the whole nation.

Conservative social thought de-emphasizes politics. This is why conservative social thought never gains much of a hearing in the modern world. The modern world is so obviously political, and the power of central governments is so great over every area of life, that all issues become politicized. The traditional conservative opposition to the very suggestion of political salvation is co-opted by their enemies. Conservatives over and over go out to vote as if their votes will fundamentally change the nature of American society. Ultimately, this cannot be true if conservative social theory is correct. Ultimately, the political institutions represent the people, and the great issues of daily life are not political; they are social, ethical, economic, ecclesiastical, and educational. The great issues of life are not political, yet at the same time the central government is pushing its way into every area of life. It is politicizing that which was not political prior to the Enlightenment.

So, the conservative faces a dilemma. He wants to make the case for a particular national political candidate in terms of conservative values, but conservative values tell him that no political candidate can do much of anything to make the country any better. If the essence of social life is nonpolitical, which is what the conservative says is the case, then how can an election every four years fundamentally change the foundations of American life?

I always quote the letter written by political activist Paul Weyrich in 1999, in which he specifically said that we have lost the culture war, which ultimately is an ethical war. He did not see how politics could roll back the debauchery that America has become. He did not think that anything that could be done at the federal level through politics could fundamentally reverse what Robert Bork called slouching towards Gomorrah.

The liberal believes in something like political salvation. He believes in political healing of every area of life. He believes that federal power, coupled with federal money, can make society better. Therefore, he is active in politics, he puts faith in politics, and he puts a whole lot of money in politics. He sees political mobilization is the heart of social transformation. He becomes highly skilled at getting votes. He becomes a master at political fund-raising. He has all of the skills that a professional has in any field, and he is up against conservatives whose very philosophy of life militates against political salvation and hard-core political mobilization.

So, every four years the conservatives go off to vote, telling themselves that this is going to change something fundamental in the country. It never does. It can accelerate certain trends. But, given what George W. Bush did to the budget deficit, and given what he did in Middle Eastern wars, it is hard to make a case that the election of Al Gore would have made America far worse than it is today. The great thing about Al Gore was that he was indecisive. He did not trust his gut in the way the George W. Bush trusted his.

I suppose the best example in my lifetime was Franklin Roosevelt's decision in 1944 to replace Henry Wallace with Harry Truman as Vice President. Henry Wallace was the most radical political figure ever to advance to national politics. He was further to the left than Huey Long. He would have replaced Roosevelt in April of 1945. Had he done so, America would be a far better place to live in. Harry Truman personally imposed the modern national security state. It was Truman who created the CIA. It was Truman who created the foundation of the Department of Homeland Security. It was Truman who expanded America's Empire around the world. It was Truman who got us into the Korean War, and would not even call it a war, never gaining congressional approval. Wallace would never have been able to get that through Congress, because conservatives in Congress would have opposed him. Everybody knew how far to the left he was, and he had no national constituency of his own. Conservatives looked at Truman as preferable to Wallace. They make that sort of mistake all the time.

So, the conservative movement by its own nature is not an effective political competitor. Because local issues are far more tied to social issues, where conservatives say a country is established, they are better equipped to fight political battles of the local level than liberals are. Liberals look to Washington for salvation; conservatives ought to look to county government as a barrier against the expansion of the federal government into their lives. But they do not know the philosophy of local government which undergirded the foundation of this nation, beginning in the colonial era, and extending even through the period immediately preceding the ratification of the Constitution. That legacy has got to be restored, and conservatives have got to adopt it. If they do not adopt it, we are simply going to get more of the same, until the federal government finally goes belly-up.

Sadly, I think that is what is going to happen. I do not think most conservatives are going to spend the time, money, and effort to build up local resistance governments at the county level to step in when Washington's checks bounce. They will have to do it after the Great Default.

http://teapartyeconomist.com/2012/04/18/why-conservatives-have-lost-the-political-battle-for-americas-soul/

Must Watch Video on Young Willard Milton Romney and Vietnam

Must Watch Video on Young Willard Milton Romney and Vietnam

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a94xVe1OW24

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Re: If I Wanted America To Fail

Watch the video Lil' Moonbat!

Geesh, you are so out of touch with everyday Americans!

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:

More blathering Faux Noise fear mongering from the Karl Rove wingnut
camp.

Fail!

On Apr 24, 11:35 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ABSOLUTELY A MUST WATCH.
>
> On Apr 24, 9:29 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pretty Powerful video:
>

> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc- Hide quoted text -
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Re: If I Wanted America To Fail

More blathering Faux Noise fear mongering from the Karl Rove wingnut
camp.

Fail!

On Apr 24, 11:35 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> ABSOLUTELY A MUST WATCH.
>
> On Apr 24, 9:29 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Pretty Powerful video:
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Lil' Tommie,

As Mark pointed out, the posts are there for the world to see. On top of that, I have the posts where you ridiculed Sheriff Babeu, in the Group Historical Pictorial.

As far as spreading, lies, hatred and smear, again, take a gander at most any of your posts.

Once again, you end up looking the fool.

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:

I doubt if Grand Old Kieth will attend, as he prefers to spread his
lies, hate, smears, insults, and homophobia while hiding behind his
computer screen.

Right, Lole' Kiethie?

On Apr 24, 10:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I doubt if Tom will be there.....Tom was very busy back on February 19th
> through the 21st attacking Sheriff Babeu, and assisting in spreading the
> vicious hateful smear against him.
>
> It seems real easy for Tom to attack Gay men and women, especially if they
> don't hold a socialistic/communistic political point of view. No; Tom
> won't be there supporting this Gay man. Makes you wonder what exactly
> Tom's agenda really is doesn't it?
>

> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > **
>
> > *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> > *
>
> > *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> > **
>
> > *Sheriff Paul Babeu

> > Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> > Tuesday, April 24th
> > 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> > The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> > 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> > Washington, DC 20003
>
> > Suggest Contribution:
>

> > $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> > Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> > *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>

> > Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> > Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> > Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> > law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> > An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> > Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> > the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> > Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> > In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is
> > also gay.
>
> > Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have
> > stood up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for
> > the American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry
> > Goldwater (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for
> > office, regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member
> > and longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> > Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
> > conservative - Log Cabin Republicans like Sheriff Babeu are helping to
> > secure the freedoms America stands for, and that's something we can all be
> > proud of.
>
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

I doubt if Grand Old Kieth will attend, as he prefers to spread his
lies, hate, smears, insults, and homophobia while hiding behind his
computer screen.

Right, Lole' Kiethie?

On Apr 24, 10:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I doubt if Tom will be there.....Tom was very busy back on February 19th
> through the 21st attacking Sheriff Babeu, and assisting in spreading the
> vicious hateful smear against him.
>
> It seems real easy for Tom to attack Gay men and women, especially if they
> don't hold a socialistic/communistic political point of view. No; Tom
> won't be there supporting this Gay man. Makes you wonder what exactly
> Tom's agenda really is doesn't it?
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > **
>
> > *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> > *
>
> > *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> > **
>
> > *Sheriff Paul Babeu
> > Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> > Tuesday, April 24th
> > 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> > The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> > 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> > Washington, DC 20003
>
> > Suggest Contribution:
>
> > $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> > Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> > *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>
> > Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> > Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> > Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> > law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> > An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> > Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> > the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> > Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> > In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is
> > also gay.
>
> > Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have
> > stood up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for
> > the American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry
> > Goldwater (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for
> > office, regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member
> > and longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> > Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
> > conservative - Log Cabin Republicans like Sheriff Babeu are helping to
> > secure the freedoms America stands for, and that's something we can all be
> > proud of.
>
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > Contributions to Paul for Congress Committee are not tax deductible as
> > charitable contributions. Contributions are subject to the limitations and prohibitions
> > of federal law: multicandidate PACs may contribute up to $5,000 per
> > election; non-multicandidate PACs and individuals may contribute up to
> > $2,500 to per election. The primary and the general are deemed to e
> > separate elections. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, national banks,
> > foreign nationals, federal government contractors or the funds of any other
> > person or entity are prohibited.
>
> > Paid for by Paul for Congress
>
> > *C O N T R I B U T O R I N F O R M A T I O N*
>
> > Federal law requires us to use our best efforts to collect and report the
> > name, address, occupation and employer of each person whose aggregate
> > contributions exceed $200.
>
> > *Log Cabin Republicans are proud members of the GOP who believe
> > inclusion wins. *Log Cabin works to build a stronger, more
> > inclusive Republican Party by promoting the core values of limited
> > government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, free markets and a
> > strong national defense while advocating for the freedom and equality of
> > gay and lesbian Americans.
> > ------------------------------
>
> > *Log Cabin Republicans
> > *1050 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington DC 20036-5339
> > Email: ad...@logcabin.org <i...@logcabin.org>
> > Contact: Casey Pick
> > (202) 480-2601
>
> > <http://aa.com/rainbow>
>
> > © Log Cabin Republicans. All Rights Reserved
>
> > To prevent mailbox filters from deleting mailings from R. Clarke Cooper,
> > Executive Director, add rccoo...@logcabin.org to your address book.
>
> > Remove yourself from this mailing<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=9iJPI9MIJeKXJ7PSH&s=dpKLJVNCKdJHLSPuG...>
> > .
>
> > Remove yourself from all mailings from Log Cabin Republicans<http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=clLVJiNULhJ3LhO5F&s=dpKLJVNCKdJHLSPuG...>
> > .
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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Wear your low cut tight dress and highest heels, Brucie Girl.

They will make you look even more like a libbyloon.

On Apr 24, 6:41 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> **
>
> *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> *
>
> *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> **
>
> *Sheriff Paul Babeu
> Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> Tuesday, April 24th
> 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> Washington, DC 20003
>
> Suggest Contribution:
>
> $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>
> Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is also
> gay.
>
> Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have stood
> up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for the
> American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry Goldwater
> (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for office,
> regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member and
> longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Tommytomtom.... we have your posts to prove Keiths position... You,
Sir(?) are the liar.

On Apr 24, 11:44 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Keith is a Grand Old Liar.
>
> On Apr 24, 10:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I doubt if Tom will be there.....Tom was very busy back on February 19th
> > through the 21st attacking Sheriff Babeu, and assisting in spreading the
> > vicious hateful smear against him.
>
> > It seems real easy for Tom to attack Gay men and women, especially if they
> > don't hold a socialistic/communistic political point of view. No; Tom
> > won't be there supporting this Gay man. Makes you wonder what exactly
> > Tom's agenda really is doesn't it?
>
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > **
>
> > > *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> > > *
>
> > > *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> > > **
>
> > > *Sheriff Paul Babeu
> > > Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> > > Tuesday, April 24th
> > > 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> > > The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> > > 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> > > Washington, DC 20003
>
> > > Suggest Contribution:
>
> > > $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> > > Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> > > *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>
> > > Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> > > Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> > > Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> > > law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> > > An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> > > Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> > > the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> > > Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> > > In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is
> > > also gay.
>
> > > Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have
> > > stood up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for
> > > the American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry
> > > Goldwater (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for
> > > office, regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member
> > > and longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> > > Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
> > > conservative - Log Cabin Republicans like Sheriff Babeu are helping to
> > > secure the freedoms America stands for, and that's something we can all be
> > > proud of.
>
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > > Contributions to Paul for Congress Committee are not tax deductible as
> > > charitable contributions. Contributions are subject to the limitations and prohibitions
> > > of federal law: multicandidate PACs may contribute up to $5,000 per
> > > election; non-multicandidate PACs and individuals may contribute up to
> > > $2,500 to per election. The primary and the general are deemed to e
> > > separate elections. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, national banks,
> > > foreign nationals, federal government contractors or the funds of any other
> > > person or entity are prohibited.
>
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> > > inclusion wins. *Log Cabin works to build a stronger, more
> > > inclusive Republican Party by promoting the core values of limited
> > > government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, free markets and a
> > > strong national defense while advocating for the freedom and equality of
> > > gay and lesbian Americans.
> > > ------------------------------
>
> > > *Log Cabin Republicans
> > > *1050 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington DC 20036-5339
> > > Email: ad...@logcabin.org <i...@logcabin.org>
> > > Contact: Casey Pick
> > > (202) 480-2601
>
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>
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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Annointed None's objective is to bring back hatred, and ridcule, in
the form of childish schoolyard bullying and unfunny humor at the
expense of others.

On Apr 24, 11:55 am, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommytomtoms' objective is to bring back that 1945 to 1964 Radio/
> Television program.... "QUEEN FOR A DAY" with a slight change in the
> eligibility rules.... They invented the "applause-O-meter in order to
> fix the outcomes...
>
> On Apr 24, 9:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I doubt if Tom will be there.....Tom was very busy back on February 19th
> > through the 21st attacking Sheriff Babeu, and assisting in spreading the
> > vicious hateful smear against him.
>
> > It seems real easy for Tom to attack Gay men and women, especially if they
> > don't hold a socialistic/communistic political point of view. No; Tom
> > won't be there supporting this Gay man. Makes you wonder what exactly
> > Tom's agenda really is doesn't it?
>
> > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > **
>
> > > *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> > > *
>
> > > *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> > > **
>
> > > *Sheriff Paul Babeu
> > > Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> > > Tuesday, April 24th
> > > 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> > > The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> > > 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> > > Washington, DC 20003
>
> > > Suggest Contribution:
>
> > > $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> > > Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> > > *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>
> > > Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> > > Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> > > Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> > > law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> > > An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> > > Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> > > the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> > > Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> > > In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is
> > > also gay.
>
> > > Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have
> > > stood up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for
> > > the American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry
> > > Goldwater (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for
> > > office, regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member
> > > and longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> > > Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
> > > conservative - Log Cabin Republicans like Sheriff Babeu are helping to
> > > secure the freedoms America stands for, and that's something we can all be
> > > proud of.
>
> > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > > Contributions to Paul for Congress Committee are not tax deductible as
> > > charitable contributions. Contributions are subject to the limitations and prohibitions
> > > of federal law: multicandidate PACs may contribute up to $5,000 per
> > > election; non-multicandidate PACs and individuals may contribute up to
> > > $2,500 to per election. The primary and the general are deemed to e
> > > separate elections. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, national banks,
> > > foreign nationals, federal government contractors or the funds of any other
> > > person or entity are prohibited.
>
> > > Paid for by Paul for Congress
>
> > > *C O N T R I B U T O R I N F O R M A T I O N*
>
> > > Federal law requires us to use our best efforts to collect and report the
> > > name, address, occupation and employer of each person whose aggregate
> > > contributions exceed $200.
>
> > > *Log Cabin Republicans are proud members of the GOP who believe
> > > inclusion wins. *Log Cabin works to build a stronger, more
> > > inclusive Republican Party by promoting the core values of limited
> > > government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, free markets and a
> > > strong national defense while advocating for the freedom and equality of
> > > gay and lesbian Americans.
> > > ------------------------------
>
> > > *Log Cabin Republicans
> > > *1050 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington DC 20036-5339
> > > Email: ad...@logcabin.org <i...@logcabin.org>
> > > Contact: Casey Pick
> > > (202) 480-2601
>
> > > <http://aa.com/rainbow>
>
> > > © Log Cabin Republicans. All Rights Reserved
>
> > > To prevent mailbox filters from deleting mailings from R. Clarke Cooper,
> > > Executive Director, add rccoo...@logcabin.org to your address book.
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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Keith is a Grand Old Liar.

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Re: House of Orange Boehner: 'One in three chance' House Republicans could lose majority

What this really means, is that Grand Old Keith has no clue what is
going on
politically in this Nation, and only gathers his "cut and paste"
news
clippings; and hears and monitors only news sources that have been
filtered through far Right wingnut extremist hate sites or Faux Noise
for the Parrots broadcasts.

On Apr 24, 9:01 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews <
>
> tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *"What this really means that it is highly likely that the GOP
> Obstructionists will lose the House, and then President Obama will have a
> Congress that will work with him. Very good news, indeed. -T"*
>
> =============
>
> What this really means, is that Tom has no clue what is going on
> politically in this Nation, and only gathers his "cut and paste" news
> clippings; and hears and monitors only news sources that have been
> filtered through far left extremist hate sites or broadcasts.
>
> Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews.ChangingTheWorld.OneMindAtA.Time..jpg
> 79KViewDownload

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GOP boycotts Senate immigration hearing

GOP boycotts Senate immigration hearing
By Jordy Yager

Republicans on Tuesday boycotted a Democratic-led subcommittee hearing
on Arizona's controversial immigration bill.

Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the ranking member of the subcommittee,
called the hearing "election-year theater." He said it would do
nothing to further attempts at reforming the country's immigration
system.

"This is not an attempt at having a sincere hearing on the merits,"
Cornyn said in a statement. "Unfortunately, the Democrat majority
seems to have embraced President Obama's 'mañana' approach to
immigration reform."

Sen. Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.) also said the hearing was "strictly political
theater" aimed at garnering publicity and trying to influence
Wednesday's oral arguments before the Supreme Court on the
constitutionality of the state measure.

"I will not participate in today's hearing because it is strictly
political theater," Kyl said in a statement. "The timing of the
hearing just one day ahead of the Supreme Court's review of the law
suggests that its purpose is either to influence the court's decision
or to garner publicity."

Kyl blasted Democrats on the committee for not conferring with their
Republican colleagues before slating the hearing, which was called by
Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.).

"[It] further demonstrates that it is intended to be more of a
spectacle than a forum for learning anything useful for policymaking,"
Kyl said.

Former Arizona state Sen. Russell Pearce (R), the architect of the
controversial law, testified before the subcommittee on Tuesday and
said none of the Republican senators had told him about their plans to
not attend the hearing. Pearce said he was "disappointed" that they
didn't show up.

None of the subcommittee's other Republicans, including Sens. Chuck
Grassley (Iowa), Orrin Hatch (Utah) or Jeff Sessions (Ala.), attended
Tuesday's hearing.

Schumer and Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) were the only Democratic members
to attend. Sens. Patrick Leahy (Vt.), the chairman of the committee,
Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), Al Franken (Minn.) and Richard Blumenthal
(Conn.) also did not show up.

Schumer and Durbin took turns peppering Pearce, former Sen. Dennis
DeConcini (D-Ariz.), and Arizona state Sen. Steve Gallardo (D), with
questions about the statute for nearly two hours. The hearing was
entitled "Examining the Constitutionality and Prudence of State and
Local Governments Enforcing Immigration Law."

More:
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/223339-gop-boycotts-senate-immigration-hearing

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Re: wear your best frock Tammy@!

Tommytomtoms' objective is to bring back that 1945 to 1964 Radio/
Television program.... "QUEEN FOR A DAY" with a slight change in the
eligibility rules.... They invented the "applause-O-meter in order to
fix the outcomes...

On Apr 24, 9:56 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I doubt if Tom will be there.....Tom was very busy back on February 19th
> through the 21st attacking Sheriff Babeu, and assisting in spreading the
> vicious hateful smear against him.
>
> It seems real easy for Tom to attack Gay men and women, especially if they
> don't hold a socialistic/communistic political point of view. No; Tom
> won't be there supporting this Gay man. Makes you wonder what exactly
> Tom's agenda really is doesn't it?
>
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > **
>
> > *Congressman Jim Kolbe * R. Clarke Cooper * Trevor Potter
> > *
>
> > *Invite You to a Fundraising Reception with*
>
> > **
>
> > *Sheriff Paul Babeu
> > Republican Candidate for Congress (AZ-04)
>
> > Tuesday, April 24th
> > 5:30 – 7:30 PM
>
> > The Home of Jim Kolbe & Hector Alfonso
> > 519 E. Capitol Street SE
> > Washington, DC 20003
>
> > Suggest Contribution:
>
> > $1,000 PAC * $500 Individual * $250 Young Professional*
>
> > Kindly RSVP to ceci...@ceciliamartinez.org or (703) 801-8596
>
> > *About Paul*<http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/politics-and-prid...>
>
> > Arizona Sheriff Paul Babeu is a rising star in conservative politics.
> > Chosen "Sheriff of the Year" by the National Sheriff's Association in 2011,
> > Babeu has gained prominence for his work securing the border and reforming
> > law enforcement in Pinal County.
>
> > An Iraq War veteran, Babeu served for over 20 years in the Army National
> > Guard. In his race for Arizona's 4th Congressional District, Babeu has won
> > the support of leading Republicans and was warmly welcomed at the
> > Conservative Political Action Conference this year.
>
> > In short, Sheriff Babeu is a successful conservative Republican. He is
> > also gay.
>
> > Sheriff Babeu follows in the tradition of many conservatives who have
> > stood up in communities, town halls, and in Congress for what's right for
> > the American people. Following in the mold of the late Senator Barry
> > Goldwater (R-AZ), Arizonans have long supported the best candidate for
> > office, regardless of their sexual orientation, including Log Cabin member
> > and longtime Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ).
>
> > Simply by being who we are – unapologetically pro-gay and unapologetically
> > conservative - Log Cabin Republicans like Sheriff Babeu are helping to
> > secure the freedoms America stands for, and that's something we can all be
> > proud of.
>
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > Contributions to Paul for Congress Committee are not tax deductible as
> > charitable contributions. Contributions are subject to the limitations and prohibitions
> > of federal law: multicandidate PACs may contribute up to $5,000 per
> > election; non-multicandidate PACs and individuals may contribute up to
> > $2,500 to per election. The primary and the general are deemed to e
> > separate elections. Contributions from corporations, labor unions, national banks,
> > foreign nationals, federal government contractors or the funds of any other
> > person or entity are prohibited.
>
> > Paid for by Paul for Congress
>
> > *C O N T R I B U T O R I N F O R M A T I O N*
>
> > Federal law requires us to use our best efforts to collect and report the
> > name, address, occupation and employer of each person whose aggregate
> > contributions exceed $200.
>
> > *Log Cabin Republicans are proud members of the GOP who believe
> > inclusion wins. *Log Cabin works to build a stronger, more
> > inclusive Republican Party by promoting the core values of limited
> > government, individual liberty, personal responsibility, free markets and a
> > strong national defense while advocating for the freedom and equality of
> > gay and lesbian Americans.
> > ------------------------------
>
> > *Log Cabin Republicans
> > *1050 Connecticut Ave NW, Suite 400, Washington DC 20036-5339
> > Email: ad...@logcabin.org <i...@logcabin.org>
> > Contact: Casey Pick
> > (202) 480-2601
>
> > <http://aa.com/rainbow>
>
> > © Log Cabin Republicans. All Rights Reserved
>
> > To prevent mailbox filters from deleting mailings from R. Clarke Cooper,
> > Executive Director, add rccoo...@logcabin.org to your address book.
>
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> > .
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Re: If I Wanted America To Fail

ABSOLUTELY A MUST WATCH.

On Apr 24, 9:29 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Pretty Powerful video:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc

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JP Fw: [sadqayyarasolallah] Asan Amal

--- On Tue, 24/4/12, Rubina Naz <rubina_naz24@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Rubina Naz <rubina_naz24@yahoo.com>
Subject: [sadqayyarasolallah] Asan Amal
To: "sadqay ya Rassol Allah" <sadqayyarasolallah@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 24 April, 2012, 1:01 PM

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Subject: [sadqayyarasolallah] Astighfar
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