On Jul 20, 1:45 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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*Kudos To Cynthia Tucker: *For admitting error, and for coming out
against race-based districting
<http://blogs.ajc.com/cynthia-tucker/2011/06/01/voting-rights-act-i-was-wrong-about-racial-gerrymandering/>.
I won't procrastinate. I'll get the most difficult part of this
column over right now: I was wrong. I was shortsighted, naïve and
narrow-minded to endorse the concept of drawing Congressional
districts to take racial demographics into account.
. . .
Unfortunately — like so many measures designed to provide redress
for historic wrongs — those racially gerrymandered districts also
come with a significant downside: They discourage moderation.
Politicians seeking office in majority-black or -brown districts
found that they could indulge in crude racial gamesmanship and
left-wing histrionics.
I've opposed this kind of districting for years, though not as
vigorously as I should have, because I knew that it helped my party,
net. But I have always thought that it was wrong, and that it had many
bad side effects.
By way of Jay Nordlinger
<http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/272213/obama-and-reagan-c-jay-nordlinger>.
(There is talk here in Washington state of creating a
"majority-minority" congressional district. We need one, some say, even
though we elected Norm Rice <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norm_Rice>
mayor of our largest city, Ron Sims
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Sims> head of our largest county, and
Gary Locke <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Locke>, governor.
Perhaps those who support that district hope it would give us more
"crude racial gamesmanship and left-wing histrionics".)
- 9:03 AM, 20 July 2011 [link]
<http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2011_3.html#jrm10093>
*Wikileaks Versus Hacky Leaks: *Bret Stephens says that they are
"largely the same story"
<http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303795304576453722472758028.html>.
In both cases, secret information, initially obtained by illegal
means, was disseminated publicly by news organizations that believed
the value of the information superseded the letter of the law, as
well as the personal interests of those whom it would most directly
affect. In both cases, fundamental questions about the lengths to
which a news organization should go in pursuit of a scoop have been
raised. In both cases, a dreadful human toll has been exacted: The
British parents of murdered 13-year-old Milly Dowler, led to the
false hope that their child might be alive because some of her voice
mails were deleted after her abduction; Afghan citizens, fearful of
Taliban reprisals after being exposed by WikiLeaks as U.S. informants.
Both, in short, are despicable instances of journalistic
malpractice, for which some kind of price ought to be paid. So why
is one a scandal, replete with arrests, resignations and
parliamentary inquests, while the other is merely a controversy,
with Mr. Assange's name mooted in some quarters for a Nobel Peace
Prize?
Good question.
But you shouldn't expect anyone at the /New York Times/ or the
/Guardian/ to answer it.
- 7:36 AM, 20 July 2011 [link]
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*Mt. Rainier Has A New Web Cam: *This one
<http://www.nps.gov/webcams-mora/muir.jpg> at Camp Muir
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Muir>.
Naturally, I've added a link to it, over on the right, with the rest of
the Rainier links.
So far, I haven't seen any spectacular views, and you won't either —
most days. The higher that you go on Mt. Rainier, the more likely you
will be in, or under, a cloud.)
(Years and years and years ago when I climbed the mountain, it was sunny
on the top, but we were under a cloud cap so that we could see down
slope, but not out from the mountain.)
- 1:07 PM, 19 July 2011
*But when you can see,* the view will be interesting and, very
occasionally, spectacular. This morning I can see the top of Mt. Adams
and most of Mt. St. Helens. (Adams is on the left, St. Helens on the
right.) On the rare clear day, you will be able to see Mt. Hood in
Oregon, and perhaps farther.
The camera does not update very often. They are probably using solar
power to run the system, since batteries would have to be brought in by
backpack, which is tiresome, or by helicopter, which is expensive. And
those running the park would not want a diesel generator at Muir, I
suspect.
- 7:54 AM, 20 July 2011 [link]
<http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2011_3.html#jrm10091>
*Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard Is In Trouble* with her voters
<http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/national/national/general/labor-hits-record-poll-low/2229271.aspx>.
Over the past month, [opposition leader] Tony Abbott has opened an
11-point lead as preferred prime minister - the first time he has
been ahead of Ms Gillard. The government would be wiped out in a
huge landslide if an election were held now.
In results that will send waves of fear through the government,
approval for Ms Gillard's performance has tumbled another 3 points
to 34 per cent, while her disapproval rating has jumped 3 to 62 per
cent.
Why? Because, to put in terms most Americans will understand, she
believed Al Gore.
And because she didn't tell Australian voters the truth about her plans
before the election.
Gillard believes, like Gore, that we are facing a possible climate
catastrophe, and that it can be avoided only by reducing our production
of carbon dioxide. So she has proposed a complex "carbon tax" in an
effort to reduce Australia's contribution to the problem. (Incidentally,
many economists would favor something like her plan, because it would be
an /efficient/ way to reduce carbon dioxide.)
There are, however, two difficulties with her plan: First, though
Australia has a high per person CO2 production, it has a small
population (about 23 million), so this policy change would have almost
no effect on the world's climate.
Second, during last year's election campaign
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_federal_election,_2010>,
Gillard promised
<http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/is-it-possible-to-salvage-the-labor-wreck-julia-gillard-has-delivered-asks-andrew-bolt/story-e6frezz0-1226097883556>
not to introduce a carbon tax.
Everyone knows it. "There will be no carbon tax under a government I
lead," the Prime Minister said, just days before the last election.
This is Labor's original sin. As a result, Gillard lacks legitimacy,
and so does Labor.
More dangerously, even government itself seems to some to be suspect.
All this damage was recklessly inflicted by Labor, whose urgent job
now is to admit to it, apologise for it and fix it as best it can.
Since she stayed prime minister by the narrowest of margins
<http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/September2010_1.html#jrm9119>,
it is reasonable to conclude that she would have lost the election if
she had been honest about her plans.
Why wasn't she honest? Why did she propose this tax, after promising not
to? It is hard to say without knowing more about her than I do, but I
would guess that she thought she could pass it and have enough time to
placate voters before the next election.
And that — and here is where I think she may have been listening to too
much Al Gore — this is so important that she should take this step, in
spite of the political risks. Voters should be saved from this
catastrophe, she may think, in spite of themselves.
- 10:09 AM, 19 July 2011 [link]
<http://www.seanet.com/%7Ejimxc/Politics/July2011_3.html#jrm10090>
*Obama's "Curious" Foreign Policy: *Jackson Diehl is puzzled
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/if-we-retreat-from-iraq-will-iran-take-over/2011/07/14/gIQA4ZscKI_story.html?wpisrc=nl_opinions>.
(Or says he is, for the sake of an effective lead paragraph.)
One of the most curious features of the Obama administration's
foreign policy is the contrast between the silky,
non-confrontational public diplomacy it employs when dealing with
dictatorships and adversaries, such as Russia, China and Venezuela —
and the brusqueness with which it often addresses U.S. clients and
allies.
Others are less puzzled
<http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272087/road-obama-runs-through-libya-stanley-kurtz>.
For the unhappy details of the foreign-policy outlook Obama is
advancing, consult Feith-Cropsey yourself. There you will find
material, not only from the writings of Samantha Power, but from
other key Obama aides like Anne-Marie Slaughter and Harold Koh.
Feith and Cropsey summarize by claiming that Obama's goals amount to
a fundamental break with seven decades of American foreign policy,
Republican and Democrat, realist and idealist. That divide, after
all, is what the many presidential apologies for our past policies
are meant to signal. In sum, say Feith and Cropsey, Obama "cares
more about restraining America than about accomplishing any
particular result in Libya. . . . The critics who accuse Obama of
being adrift in foreign policy are mistaken. He has clear ideas of
where he wants to go. The problem for him is that, if his strategy
is set forth plainly, most Americans will not want to follow him."
If Obama "cares more about restraining America" than traditional foreign
policy goals, we have an explanation for the language that puzzles
Diehl, and much else about Obama's foreign policy, including his odd
halfway policy toward Libya.
That goal, restraining America, has been popular on the far left in this
country for decades. (And even more popular in Europe.)
But it has never been popular with the American people, who alternate
between reluctant engagement and isolationism. And so Obama is forced to
conceal his long-term foreign policy goals from us, and even to take
actions, from time to time, that conflict with those goals.
- 8:02 AM, 19 July 2011 [link]
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On Jul 19, 10:41 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> 130 Republicans Who Are In Congress Today Voted To Hike The Debt Ceiling Under Bush Without Hostage ThreatsByZaid Jilanion Jul 19, 2011 at 7:30 pm
> There was a time when House Republicans chose not to threaten the nation with default to get their agenda passed.
> White House and congressional negotiators are currently in the process of striking a deficit reduction deal, as most Republicans in Congress are refusing to raise the federal debt ceiling without deep cuts to public investments and social insurance programs like Social Security and Medicare. By doing so, these Republicans are essentially holding the country hostage, threatening the United States with default unless Democrats agree to these cuts.
> Yet these Republicans were not always demanding hostages in exchange for allowing the country to pay its own bills. In November of 2004, Congress voted in both the House and Senate to hike the U.S. debt limit by $800 billion, whichraised the total ceiling to $8.1 trillion.
> A ThinkProgress review of the votes in both theHouseandSenatefinds that a whopping 130 congressional Republicans voted to hike the debt ceiling that November thatremain in the U.S. Congress today(either in their same seats or by coming to the Senate). These members of Congress did not demand draconian cuts in public investment that would've driven up unemployment and threatened the economy in return.
> Of course, there was one other difference between then and today. President George W. Bush was in the White House, and Republicans did not have an incentive to try to politically damage him by holding the debt ceiling hostage. In 2002, during another hike in the nation's debt limit under Bush, his press secretary Ari Fleischer said it was important to raise the debt ceiling because it was not the time "toengage in activitesthat could in any way raise questions about the full faith and credit of the United States":MR. FLEISCHER: The Senate passed, 68-29, a clean increase in the debt limit. The President praises the Senate's action. The debt limit is a very important issue. This is not the time to play any this is not the time to engage in any activities that could in any way raise questions about the full faith and credit of the United States. And the President urges the House to follow the Senate's action on this matter.These votes also prove that these Republicans, when faced with the default of their country, are willing to vote to raise the debt ceiling; this indicates that it is perhaps unneccesary to strike any sort of deficit reduction deal at all to win their votes. If Republicans and Democrats want to strike a grand bargain on deficit reduction, they can certainly do that in the context of the budget appropriations process rather than holding the debt limit hostage.http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/07/19/273349/130-republicans-voted-debt/
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On Jul 20, 8:29 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Did you say that when Obama, the Constitutional Law Professor, extended
> domestic partner benefits to federal employees -- and DOMA immediately made
> it null and void?
>
> Because the two choices there for Obama felchers are: 1) Obama is an idiot
> or 2) it was all for show, just a campaign gesture.
>
> If you choose the latter then why can't GOPsters do gestures too?
>
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 8:15 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > DOA. Constitutional amendments take years. Dumb
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> > On Jul 20, 6:52 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > how the leftovers see the news
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> > > Subject: [DailyKos] *? 2 ALL: HOUSE PASSES TEA-PARTY BACKED DEBT CEILING
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> > > [image:
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> > > Jennifer Bendery reports on the Huffington Post:
>
> > > "House Republicans easily passed their 'Cut, Cap and Balance' fiscal plan
> > on
> > > Tuesday, a proposal that boosts their standing among Tea Party supporters
> > > but has no chance of becoming law.
>
> > > "The bill passed, 234 to 190, on a largely partisan vote.
>
> > > "Five Democrats, including Reps. Jim Cooper (Tenn.), Health Shuler (N.C.)
> > > and Dan Boren (Okla.), sided with Republicans in passing the measure.
> > Nine
> > > Republicans opposed the bill, including Tea Party favorite and GOP
> > > presidential candidate Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.). In a statement issued
> > > after the vote, Bachmann said the bill "does not go far enough" and
> > should
> > > have included provisions to defund health care reform.
>
> > > "Other Republican defectors included Reps. Walter Jones (N.C.), Francisco
> > > Canseco (Texas), Scott DesJarlais (Tenn.), Connie Mack (Fla.) and Ron
> > Paul
> > > (Texas). Paul said he has never voted for a debt ceiling increase and
> > never
> > > will. In addition, he took issue with Republicans for not including
> > defense
> > > cuts in the mix of discretionary cuts.
>
> > > "'All spending must be deemed discretionary and reexamined by Congress
> > each
> > > year,' Paul said in a statement. 'To allow otherwise is pure cowardice.'
> > > [image: Cut Cap Balance House Republicans Vote]
>
> > > "Tuesday's vote comes after weeks of Republicans touting the bill as
> > proof
> > > of their commitment to conservative principles. It includes three
> > > provisions: substantial spending cuts, statutory spending caps, and a
> > > constitutional amendment to require the government to balance its books
> > each
> > > year.
>
> > > "Republicans say the proposal is just the kind of shot in the arm needed
> > to
> > > address the nation's staggering $14.4 trillion debt. Specifically, it
> > calls
> > > for cutting more than $100 billion in fiscal 2012 and makes drastic
> > spending
> > > cuts in areas that Democrats have prioritized as opportunities for
> > > investment: clean energy, infrastructure, education and job training. The
> > > biggest concern for Democrats, however, is the bill's proposal to gut
> > > Medicaid funding by one-third over the next decade.
>
> > > "Both parties know the bill has next to no chance of passing the
> > > Democratic-controlled Senate, and President Barack Obama has already
> > > threatened a veto. But Republicans have pushed for a record vote on it
> > ahead
> > > of the 2012 elections.
>
> > > "Democrats spent much of Tuesday's four-hour debate bashing Republicans
> > for
> > > wasting time on a political stunt.
>
> > > "'This bill panders, even grovels, to Tea Party extremists,' Rep. Betty
> > > McCollum (D-Minn.) said. 'Thank goodness this bill will never pass the
> > > United States Senate. Thank goodness this bill will never become law.'"
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On 20/07/2011 07:24 baazi81@gmail.com wrote:
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