Wednesday, November 24, 2010

The Two-Party Oligarchy Vs. The People

The Two-Party Oligarchy Vs. The People
http://ampedstatus.com/the-two-party-oligarchy-vs-the-people

Quote from article:
"Our current economic crisis has proven that the Democrat versus Republican dynamic is obsolete, the only thing that matters now is us versus them. When I say “us,” I mean 99% of the US population. When I say “them,” I mean the ruling class. The ruling class includes Republicans, Democrats, and more importantly, the people and corporations who fund them. That is the dividing line. Adhere to it. Otherwise you are playing into their divide-and-conquer strategy, and you are complicit in our demise."


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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
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"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Re: Rage Against The X-Ray Machine

If I slip the TSA scanner guy a 20, to enhance my johnson to Mandingo
proportions, and put it on Facebook, can I keep my mercury rectal
thermometer?

On Nov 24, 1:08 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> Rage Against The X-Ray Machinehttp://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9923/
>
> Quote from article:
> "It's just that the constantly expanding set of airport security
> measures does not actually make us safer. In fact, it doesn't do much at
> all, except demean and annoy passengers."
> --
> *Our courts will never be fair and just again until we force the courts
> to follow their own rules. Do not allow yourself to be ruled by tyrants.
> Learn how to control corrupt judges and crooked lawyers
> <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004> so you can get
> Justice! Learn to litigate: Buy and Study JURISDICTIONARY
> <http://www.jurisdictionary.com?refercode=CG0004>. The best course
> available for Pro Se and Pro Per litigants.*
>
> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal
> Government*http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>
> *"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they
> are free."
> - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe*
>
> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
> governed are weak.*
>
> *"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get
> caught exercising them."
> - Terry Mitchell
>
> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that
> cannot be."
> - Thomas Jefferson***

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**JP** Corruption in Pakistan

 

Re: Give Me Liberty, Or You Can Have My Law License

You ADMITTED to purjury and obstruction of justice?

I know that would land everyone else in the slammer, but hey, you were
POTUS.

So, pay the chick off, a 98k fine, and surrender your law license
(wait, thats kinda harsh - ok, just for 5 years - is that alright with
you Mr President? I'm afraid its the best we can do, for now, but
when's the last time you were in a court room anyway? Oh, that banned
for life from SCOTUS? Well, you're kinda fucked there)

Now feel free to sell books and make 20 mill a year while that darling
wife of yours runs the State Department.

You be good, sir. Off you go

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Re: He Who Makes the Money Makes the Rules

Ask Chuck Rangle. You or I would be in jail, but he made the rules,
and gets a ...

...CENSURE!

Bet that'll hurt for a whole minute.

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Give Me Liberty, Or You Can Have My Law License

Give Me Liberty, Or You Can Have My Law License
http://www.peoplevstate.com/?p=599
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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Good Profiling And Bad Profiling

Good Profiling And Bad Profiling
http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle596-20101121-05.html

Quote from article:
"The TSA fiasco has got libertarians writing about alternatives. Now, I can't get too excited about other 'more refined' ways of detecting 'terrorists,' since that notion admits it is government's job to protect me. I reject that; the last thing I want is to have that bunch of murderous bastards 'protecting' me. The things actually protected in this fiasco are, for example, Michael Chertoff's good fortune."

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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Rage Against The X-Ray Machine

Rage Against The X-Ray Machine
http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/site/article/9923/

Quote from article:
"It’s just that the constantly expanding set of airport security measures does not actually make us safer. In fact, it doesn’t do much at all, except demean and annoy passengers."
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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

He Who Makes the Money Makes the Rules

He Who Makes the Money Makes the Rules
http://www.shtfplan.com/comedy/he-who-makes-the-money-makes-the-rules_11172010
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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Re: Airport Screeners: Denied Radiation Badges?

Why do dentists, doctors, med techs, etc.. who work in other x-ray
environments gladly wear these exposure detectors on their clothing
but TSA employees do not or cannot?
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Actually, they don't. They get the fuck out da room after they put a
lead cape on you.

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Re: Sitting Ducks: Why the Tea Party Movement Is Vulnerable to Economic Charlatans, Ignoramuses, and Statists

10 bucks says the froo-froos who sent powder to Bristol knew how to
fold a coke seal like experts. Thats ok, I could too.

Yea, the Teapartyers are the inhinged ones.

Alllllllllllllllllllllll-righty then!

On Nov 24, 11:39 am, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> And the guy was a Dem politician in his home county.  Figures.
>
> On 11/24/2010 11:28 AM, GregfromBoston wrote:
>
>
>
> > How many of these ignoramuses are sending death threats and shooting
> > their TV's over a failed politician's kid on a TV game show?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Airport Screeners: Denied Radiation Badges?

Airport Screeners: Denied Radiation Badges?
http://www.sciencefriday.com/blog/2010/09/airport-screeners-denied-radiation-badges/
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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Re: On Obama

The whole deal was a joke mate.

But when does Rahm become a neo-con? Christ, did he screw from Dodge
fast, or what?

On Nov 24, 11:40 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
> except conservative jews and libertarian jews are not identical to
> neoconservative jews, or neoconservative gentiles
>
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:10 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Liberals ain't so good at math, but this is the political equivilent
> > of the Transitive Property.
>
> > A=B
> > B=C
> > C=D
> > A=D
>
> > To wit:
>
> > Prof Epstein is a conservative Jew
> > Conservative Jews are Neo-cons
> > Neo-cons suck
> > Prof Epstein sucks
>
> > See?
>
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How To Avoid Both The Naked Body Scanner And TSA Gropes!

How To Avoid Both The Naked Body Scanner And TSA Gropes!
http://farmwars.info/?p=4672
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I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal Government
http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be governed are weak.

"We have plenty of rights in this country, provided you don't get caught exercising them."
- Terry Mitchell

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that cannot be."
- Thomas Jefferson

Wonder why California is going down the toilet?

Here's a California blogger

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jeff Pelline's Sierra Foothills Report <no-reply@wordpress.com>
Date: Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Subject: [New post] Nanny state vs. baby state
To: majors.bruce@gmail.com


Nanny state vs. baby state

jeffpelline | November 24, 2010 at 8:37 am | Categories: Uncategorized | URL: http://wp.me/pq6kF-7zw

"The Nanny State: Total bliss is just one more regulation away," reads the November issue of CABPRO.

Well, here's another way of looking at it: The Baby State. While complaining about a nanny state, many of the same people want to live in a baby state.

What's that? As one reader put it: "Baby State — don't want fair taxes; don't want no rules; don't want no scanners at the airport; don't want to pay for their own pollution; don't want to big government; don't want to pay their fair share; don't want to have no sprinklers; don't want to live in a society where they have to align or compromise none of their values.

"And if they don't get their way, they cry, wine and stomp their feet, like babies."

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Re: On Obama

except conservative jews and libertarian jews are not identical to neoconservative jews, or neoconservative gentiles

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:10 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vincent@yahoo.com> wrote:
Liberals ain't so good at math, but this is the political equivilent
of the Transitive Property.

A=B
B=C
C=D
A=D

To wit:

Prof Epstein is a conservative Jew
Conservative Jews are Neo-cons
Neo-cons suck
Prof Epstein sucks

See?

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Re: Sitting Ducks: Why the Tea Party Movement Is Vulnerable to Economic Charlatans, Ignoramuses, and Statists

And the guy was a Dem politician in his home county. Figures.

On 11/24/2010 11:28 AM, GregfromBoston wrote:
> How many of these ignoramuses are sending death threats and shooting
> their TV's over a failed politician's kid on a TV game show?
>

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Re: Sitting Ducks: Why the Tea Party Movement Is Vulnerable to Economic Charlatans, Ignoramuses, and Statists

How many of these ignoramuses are sending death threats and shooting
their TV's over a failed politician's kid on a TV game show?

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Re: I Thought They Hated Us for Our Goodness

Ok, I''ll bite. What the hell is "Morning Jingo"?

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Re: On Obama

Liberals ain't so good at math, but this is the political equivilent
of the Transitive Property.

A=B
B=C
C=D
A=D

To wit:

Prof Epstein is a conservative Jew
Conservative Jews are Neo-cons
Neo-cons suck
Prof Epstein sucks

See?

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Re: Raising Taxes Is Not Reducing Government Spending

Works well in academia, but alas, history demonstrates that if we give
the government more money, the will spend it and then some.

On Nov 24, 10:24 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> Raising Taxes Is Not Reducing Government SpendingWednesday, November 24, 2010
> byGeorge Reisman
> Sunday'sNew York Timescarries an article titled "The Blur Between Spending and Taxes." The author is Harvard Professor N. Gregory Mankiw.[1] The essential theme of the article is that the government is spending when it decides to forgo tax revenue that it otherwise could have collected. Indeed, tax revenues forgone in the enactment of tax deductions, such as for interest payments on home mortgages or charitable contributions, and tax credits, such as for first-time homebuyers or adoptions, are now commonly described as "Tax Expenditures." The thought is that the government is spending money in deciding not to take it in taxes and to allow the taxpayers to keep it.
> The underlying assumption of those who hold this view is that the government already owns the funds in question whether it has collected them in taxes or not. The government is the alleged owner of funds that belong to the taxpayer and which it abstains from taking. It allegedly spends these funds in allowing the taxpayers to keep them.
> The fundamental question is, who is the owner of the funds paid in taxes? Is it the citizens, who have earned the funds and who turn them over to the government under the threat of being fined or imprisoned, or even killed if they physically resist the government, or is it the government?
> To the supporters of the principle of individual rights and limited government the principle on the basis of which the United States was founded the obvious answer is that the people own the tax revenues and, in paying them, financially support the government. To the supporters of an omnipotent government ruling over a citizenry of rightless serfs, the government is the owner both of the people's possessions, which, allegedly, are theirs in name only, and, indeed, of the people themselves. It is on the basis of this belief that it follows that the government financially supports the people in not taxing away their wealth.
> The defenders of individual rights need to remind the government that it does not pay or enrich anyone by allowing him to keep what is already his.
> This truth has major implications for the subject of tax reform, which theTimes'article was written to address. Tax reform needs to consist exclusively of reductions in government spending and in taxes. It should not be based on massive tax increases resulting from the elimination of existing tax deductions and credits. It is actual government spending that must be reduced, not what people have up to now been able to avoid having to pay in support of that spending.
> The notion of tax expenditures provides the pretext for massive tax increases in the name of reducing government spending. This notion must be cast aside, so that the target of tax reform will be reductions in actual government spending, which then must be followed by reductions in taxes. This is what must be done on a truly massive scale. To the extent that it is accomplished, the income tax can be progressively reduced, until it is ultimately eliminated altogether. At that point, all questions of income tax deductions and credits will have disappeared.
> As matters stand, the notion that the absence of taxation constitutes government spending is setting the stage for the total perversion of genuine tax reform. It is being used in an effort to imposeas much as a trillion dollars a year in new taxes disguised as a trillion dollars a year of reduced government spending. In the words of theTimes'article,Erskine B. Bowles and Alan K. Simpson, the chairmen of President Obama's deficit reduction commission, have taken a hard look at these tax expenditures and they don't like what they see. In their draft proposal, released earlier this month, they proposed doing away with tax expenditures, which together cost the Treasury over $1 trillion a year.This is the sum and substance of the concept of tax reform held not only by the Obama administration but also by cowardly Republicans and conservatives. Simpson was a Republican United States Senator from Wyoming for eighteen years. Mankiw, the author of the Times' article, was chairman of President Bush's Council of Economic Advisors from 2003 to 2005.
> In sum, the danger exists that Left and Right are about to unite to accomplish a colossal political fraud in the form of enormous tax increases sold to an unsuspecting public as reductions in government spending. The American people need to stand up and refuse to accept any form of the absurdity that in not taxing them, the government is spending their money and that the path to lower spending and taxes is raising their taxes. The basis of tax reform must be reduced government spending, not higher taxes.
> George Reisman, Ph.D., is Pepperdine University Professor Emeritus of Economics and the author ofCapitalism: A Treatise on Economics(Ottawa, Illinois: Jameson Books, 1996). His web site iswww.capitalism.net. His blog is atgeorgereismansblog.blogspot.com. Send himmail. (A PDF replica of the complete bookCapitalism: A Treatise on Economicscan be downloaded to the reader's hard drive simply by clicking on the book's title, immediately preceding, and then saving the file when it appears on the screen.) See George Reisman'sarticle archives.Notes[1] The article appears on p. 5 of the Business Section of the November 21, 2010 issue.http://mises.org/daily/4857

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Sitting Ducks: Why the Tea Party Movement Is Vulnerable to Economic Charlatans, Ignoramuses, and Statists

"Here is the problem. Well-meaning conservatives are unfamiliar with economic logic. They have no understanding of how the free market works. They think they are free market people, but they are ignorant. So, they are easily deceived by leftists and statists who come in the name of the free market, but who want votes to make the state bigger. They get sucked in by rhetoric. Some supposed conservative writer seems so sincere. He must be correct. He says he is in favor of America. He says he is for the little guy."

Sitting Ducks: Why the Tea Party Movement Is Vulnerable to Economic Charlatans, Ignoramuses, and Statists
Gary North
Remnant Review (Nov. 22, 2010)

Ellen Brown is a leftist. I have hammered away at this since October 8: 52 original criticisms, followed by 30 responses. Still, her followers could not believe it. They sent me outraged letters. Poor Max Keiser publicly challenged me to defend myself. How did I dare say such things about his favorite anti-FED expert?

On November 20, she pulled the rug out from under Mr. Keiser and all the rest of the Greenbackers. She published a glowing article on Bernanke, the Federal Reserve, and quantitative easing 2. This will save the economy, she said. The world should follow Bernanke's lead. Hard to believe that she wrote anything this preposterous? Writing preposterous things is her specialty, as I have been trying to show. Read about the "new, improved Ellen Brown" here:

For weeks, I kept saying she is a wolf in sheep's clothing. She is "putting the shuck on the rubes." Just three days after my final response to her 30 responses to my criticisms, she came clean. She wants a welfare State, and Bernanke is providing the free money. So, hooray for Bernanke!

For regular readers of my columns, this will not come as a shock. But her victims now must now face reality. They trusted her. She was the brilliant lawyer who was leading the charge against the forces of evil! They have now been sold out: lock, stock, and barrel.

Here is the problem. Well-meaning conservatives are unfamiliar with economic logic. They have no understanding of how the free market works. They think they are free market people, but they are ignorant. So, they are easily deceived by leftists and statists who come in the name of the free market, but who want votes to make the state bigger. They get sucked in by rhetoric. Some supposed conservative writer seems so sincere. He must be correct. He says he is in favor of America. He says he is for the little guy.

He may be an ignoramus. He may be a charlatan. He may be in way over his head. But his followers cannot see this, because they have no way to judge what he is saying. They are ignorant of the simplest principles of economic theory. They are easy prey.

One of the problems that faces every economist is that he discovers this sad fact early in his career: logical argumentation seems almost useless in persuading people of the falsehood of popular economic propositions. People are committed to a particular way of looking at the world, and this way is only rarely what the economist regards as the economic point of view.


Mercantilism Lives!

This has been true from the beginning. If we date the advent of modern economics with the 18th century Scottish Enlightenment, meaning such figures as David Hume and especially Adam Smith, we discover that it took decades for intellectuals in the English-speaking world to become convinced of their basic argument, namely, that the mercantilist policies of the 17th century and the 18th century led to reduced economic growth.

The argument behind Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations is this: when an individual is allowed to pursue his own economic self-interest as he sees best, society prospers as a result. Smith argued that individual self-interest is legitimate, and that when the legal order allows each individual to pursue his self-interest, the increased productivity of his actions leads to greater wealth for everyone concerned.

We think of this today as the normal way of defending economic liberty. But it was not the normal way of defending economic liberty prior to the middle of the 18th century in Scotland.

The mercantilists argued that the wealth of nations is based on economic productivity, but only productivity directed by the government. They argued for government intervention in order to stimulate exports and increase the flow of gold into the nation. This is the proper way to increase national prosperity, they taught.

Smith argued that this increase in the supply of imported gold does not increase wealth whenever this increase is based on intervention in the economy by government officials. He argued that the freedom of the individual to pursue his own interests is the key to national wealth.

Unfortunately, this argument took over half a century for leaders in the British government to accept. Only in the middle of the 1840s did the British government finally repeal the infamous corn laws, which had kept the price of domestic food higher than would have been the case had tariffs and restrictions against food imports never been legislated.

Despite the fact that Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations has been in print constantly since 1776, we still find that a large number of conservatives believe that tariffs and import restrictions are a positive benefit to the economy. There have always been supporters of tariffs, although very few of them have been professionally trained economists. The economic point of view was hammered out by Adam Smith and his successors in terms of an analysis of restrictions on imports. Modern economics has always begun here. The person who is opposed to free trade across national borders reveals himself as a non-economist. There are very few of these people in modern academic life, but there are a few, although they have very little influence.

In contrast, among the voting population, arguments in favor of tariffs and import quotas remain popular. The most famous defender of these restrictions is Pat Buchanan. His opinion is widespread within the conservative movement.

I first came across this in high school. The man who taught me high school civics and basic economics believed in tariffs. He was a conservative. He was probably the most conservative teacher at the high school level in Southern California. Nevertheless, when it came to the question of international trade, he was a believer in tariffs.

When I began to study economics in the late 1950s, primarily by reading The Freeman, I encountered the case for free trade. I realized at the time that The Freeman promoted a position that was not held by the conservatives I knew. There was something about the argument in favor of free trade that alienated those conservatives. There is something persuasive to them about the belief that government intervention at a national border is productive, even though they firmly assert that similar restrictions are unproductive at state borders, county borders, and city borders.

When I realized that this was the case, half a century ago, I also realized that becoming a professional economist has its downside. Probably the most obvious downside is this, which I have found it to be true ever since: people pay very little attention to economic arguments that challenge their belief in the productivity of government intervention.

Conservatives debate over which kinds of government intervention are productive, but there is not much debate on the fundamental question of the legitimacy of government intervention against voluntary transactions. I am not talking about trade in certain goods or services that are considered inherently immoral or destructive, such as prostitution and addictive drug usage. I am speaking about the exchange of goods and services that are not considered immoral, and that individuals want to purchase. For some reason, conservatives believe the state can be a tool for increasing personal wealth as well as national wealth, without hampering the economic liberties of others in the society.

You would think that conservatives, not trusting bureaucrats, would reject the idea that government bureaucrats who possess the power of the gun are not reliable people in the realm of economic planning. Yet what I have found for over 50 years is that in certain limited areas, the logic of freedom, meaning the logic of free trade, is not believed by people who say that they do believe in these principles. They accept arguments in favor of free trade as long as the trade takes place inside national borders. But as soon as they get to the border between two countries, they abandon any commitment to the logic of free trade. This has persuaded me that conservatives do not really understand the logic of free trade.


Economic Logic

This raises another question. To what extent do conservatives believe in economic logic at all? Can they follow the logic of an argument? Can they even recognize the logic of an argument?

I have concluded that the vast majority of people who call themselves conservatives are unable to follow the logic of economic reasoning.

Back in 1946, Henry Hazlitt's book appeared: Economics in One Lesson. Early in the book, Hazlitt says that most people are unable to follow long chains of economic reasoning. They cannot see how economic cause and effect operate. I am convinced that Hazlitt was correct. I have found, over many years of experience, that most people do not have the ability or the interest in following long chains of reasoning. This especially applies to economic reasoning.

Over 40 years ago, I read in the introduction to the best economics textbook then available an explanation for why it is important that economists earn a Ph.D. The reason is this: if they are not compelled to study economics on a rigorous level, for many years, students will never believe what they read in their freshman year of college in the introductory class on economics. This is another way of saying that people do not really believe the logic of economics, unless they have spent a lot of time and effort following the implications of these relatively simple principles of cause and effect.

I have used the example of tariffs to illustrate my point. I have done so because this is the oldest debate within the camp of the economists. Modern economics began with a consideration of this question. Adam Smith and his peers in the Scottish Enlightenment understood that they were arguing against a popular conclusion, namely, that government restraints on trade benefit the general population. Those Scottish scholars understood clearly that this was a widespread idea, and that it would take careful economic reasoning to persuade the general public that these ideas are incorrect. It has taken a lot longer than Smith would have guessed to persuade even the voters of the truths of the benefits of free trade.


The Question of Fiat Money

I need to consider another issue, less well-known than the debate over free trade versus tariffs. This is the question of money.

We find that even those economists who claim to be rigorous logicians and also defenders of free market principles come to the conclusion that government is capable of establishing control over the monetary system, and that government regulations promoting the expansion of the money supply are positive economic policies. Milton Friedman argued carefully against the intervention of the government in many areas of life, but when it came to the question of monetary policy, he believed that the economy had to have a central bank, and that there had to be rules governing the central bank.

This was a silly argument. The idea that a central bank would submit itself to any fixed principles of action was ludicrous. The whole purpose of a central bank is to establish power, mainly promoted by profit-seeking fractional reserve banks, to enable the banks to continue to operate against the interests of depositors, voters, and investors. The main goal of a central bank is to keep the free market and its sanctions away from monetary policy.

Friedman never really believed this, and neither do his disciples. They follow the logic of private property to the "border" of central banking, and then they say: "The logic of our position does not apply to the area of central banking." In other words, they call for a government-established monopoly in order to protect the other government-established monopoly, namely, the fractional reserve banking system.

If Milton Friedman and virtually all of the defenders of free trade and free markets cannot understand the logic of this position as it applies to the monetary system, it should not surprise anybody to find that conservatives who have no training in economic logic and no training in economic history have come to a very similar conclusion. These are the Greenbackers. They do not understand the logic of the free market, and they surely do not understand the logic of the free market as it applies to monetary policy. In this sense, they are not much more ignorant about economics and money than professionally trained economists who are followers of Milton Friedman. They are surely no worse off than the followers of John Maynard Keynes. His academic followers promote very similar policies.

In the case of Keynes, he favored the logic of men who were correctly regarded in his day as economic cranks. These economic cranks held positions very similar to those promoted by modern Greenback advocates, who are never trained economists. But this is not why they have made their mistakes. John Maynard Keynes was a self-trained economist. His disciples are trained economists, yet they promote monetary policies that are not fundamentally different from those policies promoted by the Greenbackers.

In my critique in 1965 of the Greenback promoter Gertrude Coogan, I pointed out that her position on monetary policy was not fundamentally different from the position promoted by John Maynard Keynes. The main difference was this, which was not fundamental in terms of economic theory: Coogan's hostility to fractional reserve banking and especially privately owned banks. Coogan, as with all Greenbackers, hated fractional reserve banking, because it enabled bankers to make a lot of money by creating a lot of money. Coogan wanted the Federal government to make a lot of money by creating a lot of money. She trusted the Federal government. All Greenbackers trust the Federal government. No Greenbacker trusts a central banker.

That was the case until November 20, 2010, when Ellen Brown climbed aboard the U.S.S. Bernanke. She did this three days after I completed my refutation of her 30 attempts to refute me.

My original critique of Brown is the same as my critique of Gertrude Coogan. Brown holds the same economic logic that Gertrude Coogan held. She makes the same arguments; she relies on many of the same examples; and she quotes the same bogus quotes that Gertrude Coogan did. When I prepared to publish my extensive critique of Ellen Brown, I sent to the Mises Institute a somewhat updated version of my 1965 essay on Gertrude Coogan. The Mises Institute decided to publish that updated article in the form of a short book, Gertrude Coogan's Bluff. I wanted people to be able to access my critique of Coogan, so that they could understand that Ellen Brown was making the same arguments, meaning that she was making the same mistakes.

Some conservatives in the 1960s believed Gertrude Coogan, and too many conservatives today believe Ellen Brown. They do not know exactly why they believe her, but they accept her arguments in favor of fiat money because they accept her arguments against fractional reserve banking. The Austrian School economists have made far more cogent criticisms of fractional reserve banking, but they favor freedom in money, which leads historically to some form of gold or silver coin standard. The Greenbackers oppose gold and silver as the basis of the monetary system. They are in favor of the same kind of fiat monetary expansion that John Maynard Keynes was. Yet they think of themselves as anti-Keynesians.

How is it possible for conservatives who regard themselves as anti-Keynesians to adopt the monetary policies that Keynes recommended? The answer is simple: they do not understand John Maynard Keynes. They have never read the General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money. They have never read any economic textbook at all. They have never read the strictly economic books and articles written by Ludwig von Mises or Murray Rothbard. They may have read Rothbard's history of the FED, but they have never accepted his position on gold coins and a monetary system based on gold coins as the free market's solution to the problem of price inflation.

The Greenbackers are completely devoid of any knowledge of economic cause-and-effect. They do not understand the principles of free trade. They do not understand the principles governing competing monetary systems. All they know is that they have been told that fractional reserve bankers have ripped them off, and therefore they accept the premise of the Greenbackers that the Congress of the United States will not rip them off. Yet most of them know that Congress has ripped them off continually. So, what is the problem? Why can't they see that handing over control over the monetary system to Congress will result in the same kind of theft that handing over to Congress the right to tax their incomes directly has created (the 16th Amendment)? What is it about the logic of the Greenbackers that completely undermines the ability of conservatives to recognize the threat that a congressional monopoly over money creation poses to them?

It is understandable why the Greenbackers of the 19th century favored this policy option. Greenbackers were promoters of government intervention. They were promoters of the Federal income tax. They were promoters of government intervention of many kinds, including the municipal ownership of public utilities and the regulation of these utilities by state and federal governments. So, it is understandable why political leftists would favor transferring the power over money to the United States Congress. But why is it that self-professed conservatives, who claim they do not trust the government, and who especially claim they do not trust Congress's ability to balance the budget, should then conclude that Congress should be granted a complete monopoly over money, and that the gold coin standard should never be allowed to interfere with congressional power over the money supply?

When you think about it, you realize that this makes no sense at all. The only explanation that makes this inconsistent thinking plausible is that people make intellectual decisions based primarily on emotion. One person says that we should fight Congress, because Congress taxes us too much, and a Tea Party member concludes that this is a good idea. Another person tells the same Tea Party member that the bad old bankers have cheated him, and the only way to get even with the bankers is to transfer to Congress a monopoly over the money supply. The Tea Party member agrees.

It is clear that the Tea Party member does not have a clear notion about the willingness of Congress to impose taxes by means of expanding the money supply. So, he concludes that it is safe to have Congress in charge of monetary policy, yet at the same time, the same person says that the public should not trust Congress with respect to taxation. He has no understanding of the fact that the ability to expand the money supply is one of the most important forms of taxation that any government possesses. He has no understanding of what is sometimes called the inflation tax.

The person believes that the inflation tax cannot and will not be imposed by Congress, even though Congress has a monopoly over guns and power. He believes that Congress is completely unreliable in the area of taxation, and he also believes that Congress is completely reliable in the area monetary policy. But fiat money creation ultimately is the power of taxation.

These same individuals are told by Ellen Brown that, if Congress is given the power over the printing of money, Congress can then abolish the income tax. She never proves this. But she says it over and over in her book. How in the world can Congress abolish the income tax, unless it possesses the power to impose some other tax? The other tax that Congress has the power to impose is the inflation tax. Yet these same people believe that Congress should not be allowed to impose an income tax. They believe that the ability to print money enables Congress to get something for nothing. They understand that an income tax violates the principle of something for nothing. They understand that a person who pays the income tax gets little or nothing, while Congress gets whatever it can buy with the money. "Congress really can get something for nothing." There is no confusion in their minds about this. Then Ellen Brown comes along and tells them that Congress can indeed get something for nothing, merely by printing money. Also, this money will not be inflationary. Congress can then get rid of the income tax. These people believe her.

In other words, these people cannot follow an economic argument. It is obvious that Ellen Brown cannot follow an economic argument. It is obvious that Gertrude Coogan could not follow an economic argument. It ought to be obvious that John Maynard Keynes could not follow an economic argument. But what we find is that Brown, Coogan, and Keynes all have conservative supporters, and in the case of Keynes, most of them have PhDs in economics.

What is the problem? Why is it that people cannot follow economic logic? I wish I knew. I have known that this was the case ever since the late 1960s. I wrote about it in my book, An Introduction to Christian Economics (1973). I wrote in the chapter on tariffs that people simply refuse to understand or believe it. This has not changed.

All of this brings me to a specific point. The conservative political movement is made up of people who are conservatives for emotional reasons. They are not conservatives because they read books on economic theory. They are not conservatives because they read books at all, except possibly short books written mostly by political activists. They did not come into the conservative movement based on their understanding of economic theory. They came into the conservative movement based on a vague awareness that the government is taxing them too much, and that something ought to be done about it. They have almost no idea of what should be done about it, either in theory or practice. I have seen this ever since the Goldwater conservatives. They have good intentions, and they are on a political road paved with good intentions.

When you find that, decade after decade, conservatives are committed to an economic policy that clearly undermines the principles that they say they believe in, you have to come up with one of two conclusions. First, they have no understanding of the economic principle that they claim to believe in. Second, they do not understand the logic of those principles. They may say that they believe in the principles, but they cannot articulate those principles, and they cannot devise a theory of cause-and-effect that is consistent with those principles.

All of which is to say that Henry Hazlitt was correct in 1946: most people cannot follow long chains of reasoning.


Videos

One of the reasons why I want to do simple YouTube videos is because I understand the people cannot follow long chains of reasoning. They can follow a three-minute video. They cannot follow it very carefully, and they may not be able to put it together with 100 other three-minute videos, but at least, on this one point, I may be able to convince them that government is not acting in their self-interest. The government is acting in its own self-interest. Government's self-interest is almost always opposed to the self-interest of private property owners.

I will attempt to find a symbol to identify certain principles of action. Why? Because people can understand a symbol much easier than they can understand a long chain of reasoning.

Whenever I talk about government, when I produce those videos, I will use the images of a gun and a badge. People can relate to a gun and a badge. They generally understand that, with respect to government intervention in the economy, someone who wears a badge and a gun is trying to take money or freedom away from the public. So, when the person sees the image of the gun and badge, he instantly has an emotional reaction. If he is a conservative, he has a reaction that is negative, except in those cases at the national border.

Conservatives like tariffs at borders. They also like to send young Americans off to war. They like the idea of American greatness, and they define American greatness as the ability to stick guns in the bellies of foreigners. This has been true for 350 years, and it is not likely to change anytime soon. Conservatives will put up with taxation, economic intervention, and even a draft system that sends their sons off to die, as long as their sons get to wear a uniform, and as long as they are allowed to shoot foreigners.

This has been a divisive point in the conservative movement since at least the days of the Constitutional convention. The anti-Federalists did not trust Congress and the Federal government with the power to tax and consscript a man to go off and fight wars. Even within the camp of those who favored the Constitution, there was a division. Hamilton favored Federal debt and economic policies that centralized power, while Jefferson preferred the gold coin standard and restrictions on the extension of government authority over the economy. In American history, the Hamiltonians won the argument, and the Jeffersonians have been relegated to the fringe.

There is a producer and narrator of two Greenbacker videos named Bill Still. Still promotes the ideas found in Gertrude Coogan's books and Ellen Brown's book. There is no difference in their basic analysis of the economy. But Still has no footnotes. He has lots of images. He has logic, but this logic is no better than Ellen Brown's logic, which is to say, it is no logic at all. But people do not perceive as clearly that Still has no logic, because he promotes Greenback ideas by means of visual images. Even on this website, I have subscribers who keep posting one of the Bill Still videos, The Secret of Oz, and then ask whether or not this is a good video. It is clearly a lousy video, if you are talking about what it promotes. It is a good video in the sense that it confuses people with respect to the legitimacy of Congressional control over the money supply.

The fact that individuals can read my analysis of Ellen Brown, which is the most detailed analysis that most of them have ever read against a particular author, and still fail to recognize that Bill Still is promoting exactly the same system, is indicative of the fact that some people cannot follow long chains of reasoning. They cannot follow anything more than A+ B equals C. If I also say that A equals D, and B equals E, they do not conclude that D + E also equals C. What is the C? Congress. We should not trust it.

People who read my critique of Ellen Brown sometimes do not understand any of it. They read it, and they conclude: "Gary North does not like Ellen Brown's book." This is a correct conclusion. But, if they were asked to explain more than two or three ideas in Ellen Brown's book that I do not agree with, some of them would be hard pressed to do so. So, when they see the video by Bill Still, which promotes exactly the same system, they are unable to think through the implications of that video in terms of what they have read on this website against Ellen Brown's economics. They cannot perceive the connection between Ellen Brown's book and Bill Still's videos. There is such a connection, and it has to do with turning over to Congress a monopoly over the money supply. It also has to do with the abolition of the gold coin system, because that system thwarts Congress as well as it thwarts fractional reserve banking. They do not conclude that Bill Still is just another crackpot Keynesian. But that is what Bill Still is. So is Ellen Brown.

People hear the word "Keynes," and they think "bad." This is correct. The problem is, they cannot articulate what is bad about Keynes's economics. They only know the Keynes is bad. So, when they hear or read the same arguments that Keynes used, but the person comes to them seemingly in the name of conservatism, they are unable to conclude: this is bad.

This is an argument for a website like mine. People can post a link to a video and ask whether the video is any good. They trust my answer. I am not sure why they trust my answer, but they do. The best way to trust my answer is to read, think through, and understand the logic of my position. But this is difficult to do, and people want shortcuts. So, I used the question-and-answer forms to provide shortcuts.


The Enemies of My Enemies

The trouble is, most conservatives do not belong to a website like this, and therefore they are vulnerable to left-wing promoters of Congressional sovereignty over money. They are vulnerable to people who come to them in the name of fiat money, not understanding that the people who have come in the name of Congressional fiat money since the 1870s have been left-wingers. They think that they are right-wingers. Why? Because these people oppose fractional reserve banking. But just because a critic opposes fractional reserve banking is not proof, in and of itself, that the person is in any way conservative.

One of the economists most quoted by the Greenbackers is Michael Hudson. Hudson is opposed to the bankers, and he is opposed to the expansion of federal power in foreign-policy. He is a leftist. He is the economic advisor to Dennis Kucinich. I think the green backers have a legitimate reason for quoting Michael Hudson. They are left-wingers, and he is a left-winger. He is opposed to the gold coin standard; they are opposed the gold coin standard. He is in favor of expanding government power; they are in favor of expanding government power. But what I do not understand is why conservatives accept their ideas and the authority of Michael Hudson in matters of economic reform.

Ellen Brown does not know what she is talking about. Neither did Gertrude Coogan. Neither does Bill Still. I refuted Ellen Brown, idea by idea, because I wanted to provide an example for conservatives of a false-flag infiltrator. I wanted to show that she does not know what she is talking about in terms of economic theory, and she is even less competent in her understanding of American history. She does not understand how to present an economic argument, and she does not understand how to use historical documents. I wanted to show that she is utterly incompetent.

I had hoped that she would respond to my arguments in the realm of economic theory, but she was wise enough not to do this. She did respond to 30 of my 31 criticisms of her handling of historical documentation, and in doing so, she revealed the extent to which she does not know what she is doing. The best example of this is her citations from two experts regarding the German inflation of the 1920s. One of them was Michael Hudson. Both of them said that the German government adopted these economic policies and imposed them through the central bank. This means that the government was in control of the central bank. This is because the government owned the central bank. Yet Brown cited them in order to prove that I was wrong when I said that the government owned and controlled the central bank.

I probably spent over 100 hours going through her book, writing the critiques, and responding to her responses. Why would I spend so much time on such an intellectually defenseless woman? Why would I waste so much time on someone with no credentials in the field of economics or history? Only to prove a point: the Greenbackers do not know what they are talking about.

Over the past 45 years, I have been the only scholar in the conservative movement who has devoted extensive time and effort to refuting Greenbackism and its first cousin, Social Credit. I am the only person who has gone into print with detailed criticisms of these two fiat money movements. Professional economists have always ignored these people. There is only one major exception to this, and that exception is John Maynard Keynes. In his book, The General Theory, he praised several of these crackpots, including the founder of Social Credit, Major Douglas. But his disciples have ignored these crackpots, and for good reason. The fact that Keynes would support these crackpots indicates that Keynesian economics is crackpottery. These economists have committed their lives to crackpottery. They do not want to admit to their followers that their mentor was a disciple, or least a promoter, of fiat money crackpots. It is an embarrassment to them.

So, I have published critiques of Coogan, Brown, and Major Douglas. I wanted to make certain that conservative readers who are really interested in economics would possess documented evidence that these three people are crackpots. The trouble is, most conservatives do not read serious economic materials, and so they are easily taken in by someone like Ellen Brown or Bill Still.

Ellen Brown will never have any influence on anybody who will have any influence. She is a confused woman who knows nothing about her topic, which is monetary theory and monetary history. The problem with Brown is not that she has influence for her bad ideas. The problem with Ellen Brown is that the popularity of her book indicates how utterly vulnerable intellectually the conservative movement is. The fact that any conservative would take seriously her book is appalling. So is the fact that any conservative would take seriously the videos of Bill Still. But they do.

So, I decided to make an example of Ellen Brown. I decided to publish something that, once and for all, would reveal to libertarians and conservatives the appalling ignorance of someone within the camp of the conservatives who is getting a hearing. I wrote these criticisms as a warning to conservatives and libertarians that the Tea Party movement has been infiltrated. There are false flag infiltrators from the Left who have successfully persuaded Tea Party members of the legitimacy of a Congressional monopoly over the monetary system, a monetary system based on compulsion, inflation, and wealth redistribution.

If someone as ignorant and as far to the left as Ellen Brown is can gain a hearing within the conservative movement, the conservative movement is in desperate shape. We should be aware of the fact that some Tea Party members are economically ignorant. They are well-meaning, but they are economically ignorant.


Conclusion

Ellen Brown has now sold out the trusting people who thought she was a ray of hope in the struggle against the evil Federal Reserve. Now they must regroup.

What about Bill Still? Is he the next knight in shining armor? Can they trust him?

Bill Still is Ellen Brown without footnotes. He gets a wider hearing, because he has produced videos. Videos are easier to watch than books are to read. They take much less time; they take much less intellectual commitment; and they do not require any degree of self-discipline to view them. I do not expect that anybody in Congress is going to pass a law, or fight a law, based on having watched a Bill Still video.

There are thousands of people in the Tea Party movement who have been seduced by an economic infiltrator from the Left: Ellen Brown. If the infiltration process is this easy, then there is something fundamentally wrong with the Tea Party movement. These people have not done enough reading, and they are ignorant about the basics of economic cause and effect. But, then again, in the realm of monetary policy and theory, so was Milton Friedman.


http://www.garynorth.com/public/7262.cfm

What’s Wrong With the Jobs Market?

What's Wrong With the Jobs Market?
by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

The terrible job market has vexed an entire generation. It shows no hope of improving anytime soon. Young people are shut out. College students are taking refuge in matriculation without end. Thirty-somethings are zoning out in their parents' basements and attics. Despair for the future has become a theme of American public life.

The question we must ask is: why is unemployment stuck at 10% in the narrowest measure and as high as 30% for some demographics?

The usual answer is that the broad economy is not recovering. That's true but superficial; it explains nothing. We have a problem of a specific kind with the jobs market. To see it as just a symptom of slow growth is an excuse for politicians and central banks to resort to reckless policies in the name of fixing the big problem without addressing the reality on the ground.

Some new data reported by the Wall Street Journal helps get to the core of the problem in greater detail. In the current environment, which the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) laughably calls a recovery, business start-ups of job-creating companies have not kept up with closings.

As compared with other recession aftermaths, new businesses are not hiring as they once did. The number of companies with at least one employee continues to fall at a rate we've not seen in 18 years. Everyone speaks of this as a recovery, but the numbers don't add up. New jobs in new companies are appearing a rate 15% less than the last recovery.

Let's try to understand what is going on here. In boom times, companies tend to bloat up in every area, especially in their staffing. Unemployment is always a feature of the bust because businesses shed jobs and expect more efficiency and productivity out of the remaining staff. Many businesses close and lose all employees.

Whereas workers once had no problem finding jobs and naming their price, there is now a surplus of workers and a job shortage, at least at the wages that the unemployed are demanding.

What usually fills the gap here are new businesses. In recovery times, entrepreneurs initiate new projects and hire the unemployed workers to staff them. The unemployed are usually willing to work for less and are willing to learn new skills in a new business environment. These new businesses become a major source for economic growth and rising living standards.

Without new businesses, there would be no net job growth at all. In post-bust economies, it is these new businesses that are responsible for soaking up the excess labor. That's because the older and larger businesses are not willing to take on the risk of new employees and have already adjusted to doing business with fewer.

Until these businesses come along, unemployment will likely persist. And this is precisely what is happening right now. And so, now that we have a better idea of the mechanics of the high unemployment rate, we have a better idea of what question to ask and how to solve the problem.

Where are these new businesses and why are they not starting as we might expect?

Let us count the ways.

New businesses need to depend on a stable legal environment and a bright outlook for the future. These are both missing. The supposed recovery has been phonied up in every conceivable way: nationalizations, bad debt swept under the carpet, money creation by the Fed, make-work jobs paid for by the taxpayer. No one really believes all the hokum. The question is not whether the recovery is phony; it is: what is real and what is not real? No one knows for sure.

Despite every attempt by the Fed to provide oceans of free credit, banks are still extremely reluctant to lend when the payoff is not there and the risks of lending are extremely high. This means that prospective new businesses have to raise their own capital from a massively depleted capital stock.

Looking at the risks, it makes far more sense to hire no employees beyond temporary contract workers. Consider the payroll tax, the largest burden on both employees and employers. It does not benefit either party at all. It is sheer robbery that vastly increases the cost of hiring.

The problem of health-care mandates is very intense. Employees who expect these benefits are mostly going to choose between obtaining them and getting a job. But for certain firms and under some conditions, they are unavoidable and unpayable.

Business taxes are all too high and probably going higher. Regulations on all businesses in every sector of life have been intensifying for decades. No industry is free of them. Even formerly frontier sectors like software are becoming legal thickets of patents, protections, and scary mandates.

The minimum wage is way too high to encourage new job growth among new businesses. And given all the legal mandates and potential lawsuits, everyone knows that once you hire employees, you are pretty much stuck with them for some period of time. You can test the waters. But you have to be sure. And no one is sure.

Businesses thrive in an environment of freedom. But enterprise is no longer free in any area. In boom times, the consequences are less obvious. In the bust, the regulatory thicket, the taxes and mandates, and the legislative threats all become decisive in a way they were not before.

None of these problems are intrinsic to the business cycle. They are all imposed by government. The same problem afflicted the economy during the Great Depression, but back then the central planning was newly imposed. Now is different: the old central planning is killing us day by day, even without dramatic new legislation.

It could all be changed. Congress and the president and the courts could reverse it all tomorrow, restoring an environment of freedom and free enterprise. Jobs would recover quickly. Hope would be back in a matter of weeks and months. The economy would genuinely recover.

What is keeping that from happening? The lack of political will and the insatiable desire of the State to keep eating away at our liberty and property.

It isn't complicated. The State is living parasitically off our living standards and hopes for the future. It must die, if we are to live well again.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/job-market162.html

Re: and the dems still wonder

I thought maybe she was undergoing chemo or something.

She isn't.

No dressing up in clown suits in congress.

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Re: Al $harpton: Time for FCC to Censor Rush Limbaugh's Speech (Audio)

Al has a talk show?

The question is also the answer

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On Obama

Richard Epstein on Barack Obama, his former Chicago Law Colleague

Few legal scholars have blown as many minds and had the tangible impact that Richard Epstein has managed. His 1985 volume, Takings: Private Property and the Power of Eminent Domain is a case in point. Epstein made the hugely controversial argument that regulations and other government actions such as environmental regulations that substantially limit the use of or decrease the value of property should be thought of as a form of eminent domain and thus strictly limited by the Constitution. The immediate result was a firestorm of outrage followed by an acknowledgment that the guy was onto something.

As Epstein told Reason in a 1995 interview, "I took some pride in the fact that [Sen.] Joe Biden (D-Del.) held a copy of Takings up to a hapless Clarence Thomas back in 1991 and said that anyone who believes what's in this book is certifiably unqualified to sit in on the Supreme Court. That's a compliment of sorts.... But I took even more pride in the fact that, during the Breyer hearings [in 199X], there were no such theatrics, even as the nominee was constantly questioned on whether he agreed with the Epstein position on deregulation as if that position could not be held by responsible people."

Born in New York in 1943, Epstein splits faculty appointments at the University of Chicago and New York University; he's also a senior fellow at Stanford's Hoover Institution, an adjunct scholar at the Cato Institute, and a contributor to Reason. In books such as Forbidden Grounds: The Case Against Employment Discrimination Laws (1992) to Simple Rules for a Complex World (1995), andSkepticism and Freedom: A Modern Case for Classical Liberalism (2003), Epstein pushes his ideas and preconceptions to their limits and takes his readers along for the ride. A die-hard libertarian who believes the state should be limited and individual freedom expanded, he is nonetheless the consummate intellectual who first and foremost demands he offer up ironclad proofs for his characteristically counterintuitive insights into law and social theory.

Indeed, Epstein's enduring value may not be any particular legal or policy prescription he's offered over the years but rather his methodology. He believes in robust and unfettered argument and debate as a way of gaining knowledge. If you don't put your ideas out in the arena, you can't be doing your best work, he argues. "The problem when you keep to yourself is you don't get to hear strong ideas articulated by people who disagree with you," he says.

Reason's Nick Gillespie interviewed Epstein at NYU's law building in October. The conversation was wide-ranging and high-energy--another Epsteinian virtue. They talked about legal challenges to ObamaCare, the effects of stimulus spending and TARP bailouts, and a former University of Chicago adjunct faculty member by the name of Barack Obama, with whom Epstein regularly interacted in the 1990s and early 2000s.

"He passed through Chicago without absorbing much of the internal culture," says Epstein of the president. "He's amazingly good at playing intellectual poker. But that's a disadvantage, because if you don't put your ideas out there to be shot down, you're never gonna figure out what kind of revision you want."

Filmed and edited by Jim Epstein (no relation) with help from Michael C. Moynihan and Josh Swain.

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