have to do with "embarrassment" rather than "security".
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who is to know? the classified documents were sealed under protective
order
On Dec 20, 12:53 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To address the core subject... SECRETS.... There are far too many that
> have to do with "embarrassment" rather than "security". I believe that
> a group of lay people should be allowed to decide what is and is not
> in the "interest" of national security.
>
> On Dec 20, 12:17 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > No way Newt Gingrich, or any sitting or future American President ever
> > gives Pollard, or any other Israeli a pardon, clemency, or release from
> > imprisonment, unless the individual is on his or her death bed. The
> > outcry from the American people would be overwhelming.
>
> > I suspect that this is nothing more than campaign rhetoric, in order to
> > muster Jewish support.
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> > Keith
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> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 11:05 AM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
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> > > wrote:
> > > Former Speaker-of-the-House and Republican presidential hopeful Newt
> > > Gingrich said Thursday that he was 'leaning towards clemency' for
> > > convicted Israeli spy Jonathan Pollard.
> > > While in office in the 1990s, Gingrich, who is currently ahead in the
> > > polls over the five other GOP candidates, spoke adamantly against any
> > > such pardon.
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> > > Judge Aubrey Robinson, Jr., imposed a life sentence after hearing a
> > > "damage-assessment memorandum" from the Secretary of Defense.
> > > Pollard was a US citizen, born on US soil, but his greed and loyalty
> > > to Israel was more important than his American citizenship. He should
> > > have been executed or continuously tortured for information.
>
> > > Israel granted Pollard citizenship in 1995, but publicly denied that
> > > he was an Israeli spy until 1998. Israeli activist groups, as well as
> > > high-profile Israeli politicians, have lobbied for his release. His
> > > case was later linked to that of Ben-ami Kadish, another U.S. national
> > > who pleaded guilty to charges of passing classified information to
> > > Israel. He renounced his United States citizenship and is now solely
> > > an Israeli citizen. He will be deported to Israel in the event that he
> > > is released from prison.
>
> > > Pollard's espionage was discovered in 1985 when a co-worker
> > > anonymously reported his removal of classified material from the NIS.
> > > The FBI again became involved. A short time later Pollard's neighbor
> > > began calling around the military intelligence community (he was a
> > > naval officer) asking what to do with the 70 lb suitcase full of
> > > highly classified material that Pollard's wife, Anne, had given him.
> > > Prior to sentencing, Pollard and his wife Anne gave media interviews
> > > in which they defended their spying and attempted to rally Jewish
> > > Americans to their cause. In a 60 Minutes interview, Anne said, "I
> > > feel my husband and I did what we were expected to do, and what our
> > > moral obligation was as Jews. Aviem Sella, Pollard's initial Israeli
> > > contact, was eventually indicted on three counts of espionage by an
> > > American court.[35] Israel refused to allow him to be interviewed
> > > unless he was granted immunity. America refused because of Israel's
> > > previous failure to cooperate as promised. Israel then refused to
> > > extradite Sella, instead giving him command of a prestigious air force
> > > base. The U.S. Congress responded by threatening to cut aid to Israel,
> > > at which point Sella stepped down.
>
> > > know the enemy:
> > > When asked to return the stolen material, the Israelis reportedly only
> > > turned over a few dozen low-classified documents. At the time, the
> > > Americans knew that Pollard had passed tens of thousands of documents.
> > > When American investigators traveled to Israel they were treated with
> > > hostility from the moment they arrived in Israel to the moment they
> > > left. The Israelis created a schedule designed to wear them down,
> > > including many hours per day of commuting in blacked out buses on
> > > rough roads, and frequent switching of buses leaving them without
> > > adequate time to sleep and preventing them from sleeping on the
> > > commute. The identity of Pollard's original handler, Sella, was
> > > withheld. All questions had to be translated into Hebrew and answered
> > > in Hebrew, and then translated back into English, even though all the
> > > parties spoke perfect English. The Commander Jerry Agee remembers
> > > that, even as he departed the airport, airport security made a point
> > > of informing him that "you will never be coming back here again"; Agee
> > > found various items had been stolen from his luggage, upon his return
> > > to the United States. The abuse came not only from the guards and
> > > officials, but also the Israeli media.
>
> > > The New York Times reported on 21 September 2010 that Netanyahu
> > > proposed that Pollard be released as a reward to Israel for extending
> > > by three months a halt to new settlements in occupied territories.
>
> > > In 2010 representatives Barney Frank (D-Mass.), Edolphus Towns (D-
> > > N.Y.), Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) and Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.) wrote a
> > > letter which "notes the positive impact that a grant of clemency would
> > > have in Israel, as a strong indication of the goodwill of our nation
> > > towards Israel and the Israeli people", On November 18, 2010, 39
> > > members of Congress submitted a Plea Of Clemency to the White House on
> > > behalf of Pollard, asking the president for his immediate release:
> > > "Such an exercise of the clemency power would not in any way imply
> > > doubt about his guilt, nor cast any aspersions on the process by which
> > > he was convicted.
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> > > Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Secretary of State, wrote in a letter to
> > > Barack Obama, "I believe justice would be served by commuting."
>
> > > Lawrence Korb, former assistant secretary of defense under Ronald
> > > Reagan, has called on the Obama Administration to grant clemency to
> > > Polard:
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> > > In September 2011, when asked by a group of rabbis whether the Obama
> > > administration was considering the release of Pollard, Vice President
> > > Joe Biden responded, "President Obama was considering clemency, but I
> > > told him, 'Over my dead body are we going to let him out before his
> > > time. If it were up to me, he would stay in jail for life.'
>
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