Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: “If any country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its borders, we will wage jihad on that country.”

It still does not effect my prior statement
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well the US does recognize islam and what other nations recognize is
immaterial in this debate.
your suspicion doesn't agree with Webster or Wiki so I suspect that
you are wrong

regardless, islam is protected by our constitution and there's nothing
you or your islamophobes can do about it but whine, throw stones and
tell lies

personally, I consider muslims just more abrahamic myth believers to
be ignored

On Dec 20, 3:13 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Only when considering religious orientation... add in the 1.1 billion
> agnostics/athiests and that number goes down. It still does not effect my
> prior statement.
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> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:27 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > 1 out of every 4 persons on the planet are muslims
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> > try again ...
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> > On Dec 20, 2:19 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > More than half the people and nations in the world do not accept that
> > > definition as they do not accept Islam as a legal religion.
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> > > Try again.
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> > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > > > Isn't it an all
> > > > encompassing ideology?
> > > > ---
> > > > Islam is a religion.
> > > > Islam (English play /ˈɪzlɑːm/;[note 1] Arabic: الإسلام‎ al-ʾislām
> > > > IPA: [ʔɪsˈlæːm] ( listen)[note 2]) is the monotheistic religion
> > > > articulated by the Qur'an, a text considered by its adherents to be
> > > > the verbatim word of God.
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
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> > > > On Dec 20, 12:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > My comment would be that Scientology was refused status as a
> > > > > "religion" due to its' all encompassing "way of life" "intrusion on
> > > > > life" doctrines. Since then the IRS has recognized them. However many
> > > > > countries in the world do not because it is as much an "ideology" as
> > a
> > > > > "religion"  In what way is Islam any different?? Isn't it an all
> > > > > encompassing ideology?
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> > > > > On Dec 20, 10:56 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
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> > > > > > "If any country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its
> > > > > > borders, we will wage jihad on that country."
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > don't be afraid ... just words from another abrahamic myth believer
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> > > > > > The Qur'an says, "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who
> > > > > > follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the
> > Sabians,-
> > > > > > any who believe in Allah (God) and the Last Day, and work
> > > > > > righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them
> > shall
> > > > > > be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an, 2:62)
>
> > > > > > islam, the fastest growing religion in the world, is here to stay
> > ...
> > > > > > and protected by our constitution
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> > > > > > When Mohammed established the first Islamic state in Medina, he
> > > > > > regarded the Jews as allies, and concluded a treaty with them. Only
> > > > > > when they violated the treaty and sided with the Muslims' enemies
> > did
> > > > > > the Prophet change his policy toward them.
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> > > > > > First, let's look at where these statements come from. These are
> > > > > > common stereotypes about Islam. People who don't understand the
> > > > > > religion like to toss around the accusation that the Qur'an teaches
> > > > > > violence and anti-semitism. Unfortunately, a lot of people who buy
> > > > > > into these misconceptions have distinctly Islamophobic agendas that
> > > > > > preclude them from having any positive views of Islam.
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> > > > > > Islam is a fourteen-hundred years old way of life. One simply can't
> > > > > > take the scripture of Islam, which is the Qur'an (also spelled
> > Koran),
> > > > > > and make sweeping generalizations about the religion, particularly
> > > > > > when one lacks the qualifications to interpret the Qur'an.
>
> > > > > > The Qur'an makes reference to different groups of non-Muslims.
> > First,
> > > > > > the Qur'an recognizes the natural diversity of humanity, "O
> > mankind!
> > > > > > We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and
> > made
> > > > > > you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that
> > ye
> > > > > > may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the
> > sight
> > > > > > of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has
> > full
> > > > > > knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)." (Qu'ran,
> > 49:13)
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> > > > > > There is also the recognition that human beings are religiously and
> > > > > > ethnically diverse, "For, had God so willed, He could surely have
> > made
> > > > > > you all one single community; however, He lets go astray him that
> > > > > > wills [to go astray], and guides aright him that wills [to be
> > guided];
> > > > > > and you will surely be called to account for all that you ever
> > > > > > did!" (Qur'an, 16:93)
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> > > > > > What then does the Qur'an say about "infidels?" First, what does
> > the
> > > > > > term infidel mean? It is not a Qur'anic term. It is a term that
> > > > > > Christians have historically applied to non-Christians,
> > particularly
> > > > > > Muslims. Christian doctrine simply did not recognize the
> > legitimacy of
> > > > > > Islam. Hence, Muslims were "infidels," and usually placed in the
> > same
> > > > > > category as "pagans" and "savages."
>
> > > > > > The Qur'an speaks of "kuffar," or those who disbelieve, or cover up
> > > > > > the truth, or deny the truth of God and His messengers. However,
> > it is
> > > > > > incorrect to translate "kafir" as infidel. The Qur'an also does not
> > > > > > label all non-Muslims as kuffar, or unbelievers.
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> > > > > > The Qur'an talks about a group of non-Muslims called "Ahl
> > al-Kitab,"
> > > > > > or People of Scripture. These are people who have received divine
> > > > > > revelation, particularly Christians and Jews. Therefore, the Qur'an
> > > > > > automatically recognizes previous Abrahamic faiths and accords
> > special
> > > > > > status to the adherents of Christianity and Judaism. What is
> > ironic is
> > > > > > that Christian and Jewish doctrine makes no provision for the
> > > > > > recognition of Islam; however, Islam recognizes both Christianity
> > and
> > > > > > Judaism as divinely-revealed religions.
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> > > > > > On Dec 20, 9:09 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Comments PlainOl?
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> > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Asslifters make easy targets.
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> > > > > > > > **
> > > > > > > >            New post on *Bare Naked Islam*
> > > > > > > > <http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>
> >  "If
> > > > any
> > > > > > > > country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its
> > borders,
> > > > we will
> > > > > > > > wage jihad on that country."<
> > > >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/if-any-country-refuses..
> > .>
> > > > by
> > > > > > > > barenakedislam<
> > > >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>
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> > > > > > > > Just like Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and sooner or later, Syria,
> > > > Jordan, and
> > > > > > > > Yemen, the U.S. is looking at Iranian-style fundamentalist
> > Islamic
> > > > > > > > governments all  over the Middle East. But the real threat to
> > > > America's
> > > > > > > > interests and security is a lot closer to home. In fact, it's
> > > > already here.
> > > > > > > > Jordan's Tahrir Party leader, Sheik Admand Abu Quddum [...]
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> > > > > > > > Read more of this post<
> > > >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/if-any-country-refuses..
> > .>
> > > > > > > >  *barenakedislam<
> > > >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>
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