Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: “If any country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its borders, we will wage jihad on that country.”

1 out of every 4 persons on the planet are muslims

try again ...

On Dec 20, 2:19 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> More than half the people and nations in the world do not accept that
> definition as they do not accept Islam as a legal religion.
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> Try again.
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> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 2:04 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> > Isn't it an all
> > encompassing ideology?
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> > Islam is a religion.
> > Islam (English play /ˈɪzlɑːm/;[note 1] Arabic: الإسلام‎ al-ʾislām
> > IPA: [ʔɪsˈlæːm] ( listen)[note 2]) is the monotheistic religion
> > articulated by the Qur'an, a text considered by its adherents to be
> > the verbatim word of God.
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam
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> > On Dec 20, 12:49 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > My comment would be that Scientology was refused status as a
> > > "religion" due to its' all encompassing "way of life" "intrusion on
> > > life" doctrines. Since then the IRS has recognized them. However many
> > > countries in the world do not because it is as much an "ideology" as a
> > > "religion"  In what way is Islam any different?? Isn't it an all
> > > encompassing ideology?
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> > > On Dec 20, 10:56 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
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> > > > "If any country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its
> > > > borders, we will wage jihad on that country."
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> > > > don't be afraid ... just words from another abrahamic myth believer
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> > > > The Qur'an says, "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who
> > > > follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,-
> > > > any who believe in Allah (God) and the Last Day, and work
> > > > righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall
> > > > be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (Qur'an, 2:62)
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> > > > islam, the fastest growing religion in the world, is here to stay ...
> > > > and protected by our constitution
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> > > > When Mohammed established the first Islamic state in Medina, he
> > > > regarded the Jews as allies, and concluded a treaty with them. Only
> > > > when they violated the treaty and sided with the Muslims' enemies did
> > > > the Prophet change his policy toward them.
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> > > > First, let's look at where these statements come from. These are
> > > > common stereotypes about Islam. People who don't understand the
> > > > religion like to toss around the accusation that the Qur'an teaches
> > > > violence and anti-semitism. Unfortunately, a lot of people who buy
> > > > into these misconceptions have distinctly Islamophobic agendas that
> > > > preclude them from having any positive views of Islam.
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> > > > Islam is a fourteen-hundred years old way of life. One simply can't
> > > > take the scripture of Islam, which is the Qur'an (also spelled Koran),
> > > > and make sweeping generalizations about the religion, particularly
> > > > when one lacks the qualifications to interpret the Qur'an.
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> > > > The Qur'an makes reference to different groups of non-Muslims. First,
> > > > the Qur'an recognizes the natural diversity of humanity, "O mankind!
> > > > We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made
> > > > you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye
> > > > may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight
> > > > of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full
> > > > knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things)." (Qu'ran, 49:13)
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> > > > There is also the recognition that human beings are religiously and
> > > > ethnically diverse, "For, had God so willed, He could surely have made
> > > > you all one single community; however, He lets go astray him that
> > > > wills [to go astray], and guides aright him that wills [to be guided];
> > > > and you will surely be called to account for all that you ever
> > > > did!" (Qur'an, 16:93)
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> > > > What then does the Qur'an say about "infidels?" First, what does the
> > > > term infidel mean? It is not a Qur'anic term. It is a term that
> > > > Christians have historically applied to non-Christians, particularly
> > > > Muslims. Christian doctrine simply did not recognize the legitimacy of
> > > > Islam. Hence, Muslims were "infidels," and usually placed in the same
> > > > category as "pagans" and "savages."
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> > > > The Qur'an speaks of "kuffar," or those who disbelieve, or cover up
> > > > the truth, or deny the truth of God and His messengers. However, it is
> > > > incorrect to translate "kafir" as infidel. The Qur'an also does not
> > > > label all non-Muslims as kuffar, or unbelievers.
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> > > > The Qur'an talks about a group of non-Muslims called "Ahl al-Kitab,"
> > > > or People of Scripture. These are people who have received divine
> > > > revelation, particularly Christians and Jews. Therefore, the Qur'an
> > > > automatically recognizes previous Abrahamic faiths and accords special
> > > > status to the adherents of Christianity and Judaism. What is ironic is
> > > > that Christian and Jewish doctrine makes no provision for the
> > > > recognition of Islam; however, Islam recognizes both Christianity and
> > > > Judaism as divinely-revealed religions.
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> > > > On Dec 20, 9:09 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Comments PlainOl?
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> > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Asslifters make easy targets.
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> > > > > > **
> > > > > >            New post on *Bare Naked Islam*
> > > > > > <http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>  "If
> > any
> > > > > > country refuses to allow the spread of Islam within its borders,
> > we will
> > > > > > wage jihad on that country."<
> >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/if-any-country-refuses...>
> > by
> > > > > > barenakedislam<
> >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>
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> > > > > > Just like Egypt, Tunisia, Libya, and sooner or later, Syria,
> > Jordan, and
> > > > > > Yemen, the U.S. is looking at Iranian-style fundamentalist Islamic
> > > > > > governments all  over the Middle East. But the real threat to
> > America's
> > > > > > interests and security is a lot closer to home. In fact, it's
> > already here.
> > > > > > Jordan's Tahrir Party leader, Sheik Admand Abu Quddum [...]
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> > > > > > Read more of this post<
> >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/2011/12/19/if-any-country-refuses...>
> > > > > >  *barenakedislam<
> >http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/author/barenakedislam/>
> > > > > > * | December 19, 2011 at 11:49 PM | Categories: Jihad this!<
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