You know very little about me, and you have pegged me wrong again and again.
I would suggest that you speak for yourself, and not portend to know
what I think.
On 1/6/11, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bruce, Tommy is stuck on Marx, Engels for his base ideology and he relies on
> the new idea man Ayers for dealing with modern times.... Same list as
> NoBama.
>
> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> no tommietard
>>
>> most of what government does is bad
>>
>> stopping them from doing things and spending money is good
>>
>> you are too stupid to understand that, being illiterate
>>
>> if you spent some time reading a book, something by James Buchanan or
>> Bryan
>> Caplan for instance
>>
>> and less time spamming airheaded fascist press releases you would know
>> that
>>
>> at your age I am sure you will die first
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, gridlock is bad, Brucie girl.
>>>
>>> It means that NOTHING gets accomplished.
>>>
>>> Stagnation and the status quo are bad.
>>>
>>> On 1/6/11, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > gridlock is good Tomie
>>> >
>>> > it means nazis like you and your owners don't get to hurt people
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> The New Grand Obstructionist Tea Party Republican Congress
>>> >> Begins....say hello to partisan gridlock, obstruction, investigations,
>>> >> the demonization of Unions, legislation to harm the poor and working
>>> >> class, efforts to make the President fail, and un-American bad
>>> >> behavior for the next two years!
>>> >>
>>> >> Most of the Republicans in both the House and the Senate voted against
>>> >> DADT repeal. I predict that they will now obstruct any further
>>> >> Progressive and pro-LGBT legislation for as long as they hold control
>>> >> of the House. We need to demonstrate and protest loudly.
>>> >>
>>> >> A polarized Congress in a US seeking pragmatism
>>> >>
>>> >> PHOTOS Previous Next
>>> >> Outgoing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. hands the gavel to the
>>> >> new House Speaker John Boehner of Ohio during the first session of the
>>> >> 112th Congress, Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2011, on Capitol Hill in
>>> >> Washington. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak) (Charles Dharapak - AP)
>>> >>
>>> >> House Speaker-desigante John Boehner of Ohio greets House members
>>> >> during the first session of the 112th Congress, on Capitol Hill in
>>> >> Washington, Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2011. (AP Photo/Charles Dharapak)
>>> >> (Charles Dharapak - AP)
>>> >>
>>> >> President Barack Obama pauses on the tarmac as he arrives at Andrews
>>> >> Air Force Base, Md.,, Tuesday, Jan. 4, 2011, as he returned from
>>> >> vacation in Hawaii. Col. Lee DePlao, commander of the 11th Wing, is
>>> >> second from left. (AP Photo/Carolyn Kaster) (Carolyn Kaster - AP)
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>>> >> By LIZ SIDOTI
>>> >> The Associated Press
>>> >> Wednesday, January 5, 2011; 2:32 PM
>>> >>
>>> >> WASHINGTON -- There's an inherent conflict in the country's new
>>> >> political reality: a much more polarized Congress must answer to an
>>> >> increasingly powerful center of the electorate that abhors
>>> >> partisanship or risk its wrath in 2012.
>>> >>
>>> >> Much like President Bill Clinton after his party's disastrous 1994
>>> >> elections, President Barack Obama now has the chance to shift to the
>>> >> middle as leaders on Capitol Hill struggle to strike a balance between
>>> >> the desires of ideological purists in their ranks and the independent,
>>> >> centrist voters who played a significant role in electing them.
>>> >>
>>> >> For Republicans and Democrats, that task began Wednesday when the new
>>> >> Congress was sworn in; Republicans assumed control of the House and
>>> >> padded their numbers in the Democratic-led Senate.
>>> >>
>>> >> "There's going to be politics. That's what happens in Washington. They
>>> >> are going to play to their base for a certain period of time. But I'm
>>> >> pretty confident that they're going to recognize that our job is to
>>> >> govern . My hope is that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell will realize
>>> >> that there will be plenty of time to campaign for 2012 in 2012," Obama
>>> >> said this week about GOP leaders in the House and Senate, casting
>>> >> himself as the compromiser in chief even while maneuvering for his
>>> >> upcoming re-election.
>>> >>
>>> >> The president's tone was in stark contrast to his first two years when
>>> >> he leveraged large Democratic majorities in Congress - and thwarted
>>> >> Republicans - to enact sweeping laws, including an economic stimulus
>>> >> measure and revamps of the health care and financial regulatory
>>> >> systems, that independents greeted skeptically if not derisively.
>>> >> After backing him heavily in his presidential bid, they punished him
>>> >> in November by ending one-party rule in Washington.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now, with no serious Democratic primary challenger emerging to siphon
>>> >> support from his liberal base, Obama already has begun moving to the
>>> >> center. As 2010 ended, he compromised with Republicans to reach
>>> >> bipartisan deals on tax cuts that paved the way for a rush of end of
>>> >> year legislation, including repealing the ban on gays openly serving
>>> >> in the military as well as a new nuclear treaty with Russia.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> It's clear the 2012 elections are in everyone's sights with obvious
>>> >> objectives: Obama needs to win back middle-of-the-road voters, and
>>> >> Republicans need to keep them happy, or at least not anger them.
>>> >>
>>> >> Their power was strongly felt in the last three elections. In 2006 and
>>> >> 2008, independents furious with Republican governance gave Democrats
>>> >> power in Congress and the White House. By 2010, these voters had grown
>>> >> disillusioned by Democratic rule and sided with the GOP.
>>> >>
>>> >> And their sway is only growing.
>>> >>
>>> >> Today, more Americans are identifying themselves as independent while
>>> >> majorities of the country view both the Democratic and Republican
>>> >> parties unfavorably. Disaffected Republican and Democratic operatives
>>> >> are forming groups to advocate on behalf of - if not organize -
>>> >> unaffiliated voters, indicating that momentum may be building among
>>> >> the center for increased political action.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, given all that, how did the Republican and Democratic caucuses in
>>> >> Congress end up so much more conservative and liberal?
>>> >>
>>> >> The two-party American political system produces polarization in
>>> >> Congress. Both the Republican and the Democratic parties hold
>>> >> primaries to choose general election candidates. Those nominating
>>> >> contests are dominated by the most vocal, active party members -
>>> >> conservatives and liberals who tend to support like-minded people.
>>> >>
>>> >> Last year, that situation was even more pronounced as the tea party
>>> >> coalition roiled GOP primaries and produced Republican nominees who
>>> >> were far more conservative than usual.
>>> >>
>>> >> Now, the House Republican roster includes some seven dozen tea
>>> >> party-backed lawmakers and other staunch conservatives. And moderate
>>> >> "Blue Dog" Democrats are virtually extinct; scores lost their
>>> >> swing-voting districts in a coast-to-coast GOP wave.
>>> >>
>>> >> "Compromise is a dirty word to the new members of Congress and a vital
>>> >> word to the people they were sent to represent," said Matt Bennett, a
>>> >> former Clinton aide and a vice president of the centrist Democratic
>>> >> group Third Way. "It's a more polarized House representing an
>>> >> electorate that is really seeking moderation. There's a big disconnect
>>> >> between their caucuses and their voters."
>>> >>
>>> >> The Senate is arguably less polarized than the House; Democrats
>>> >> succeeded in limiting the number of GOP takeaways to six. Still, new
>>> >> Republican senators include tea party-supported Rand Paul of Kentucky
>>> >> and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, as well as conservatives Pat Toomey of
>>> >> Pennsylvania and Marco Rubio of Florida.
>>> >>
>>> >> From the outset, it's clear that Boehner is trying to strike a balance
>>> >> between his constituents and his members.
>>> >>
>>> >> "This is the people's house. This is their Congress. It's about them,
>>> >> not us," Boehner said after he took the gavel as speaker.
>>> >>
>>> >> Still, in a nod to his caucus' right flank, he scheduled a vote next
>>> >> week on repealing the health care law. Republicans don't expect to
>>> >> kill it. It makes sense for them not to; the GOP wants to run against
>>> >> health care in 2012 and that important constituency - independents -
>>> >> prefer that the law be changed, not repealed. House leaders facing
>>> >> demands from the right to immediately cut spending also indicated they
>>> >> wanted to cut $100 billion from the federal budget. But it didn't take
>>> >> long before GOP leaders bowed to the reality of governing and scaled
>>> >> back their goal.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Come February, during debate over a massive spending bill to keep the
>>> >> government running, the country will see how successful Boehner has
>>> >> been at keeping the right in line and how much Obama is willing to
>>> >> compromise.
>>> >>
>>> >> The challenge for Boehner is to avoid what happened after the 1994
>>> >> Republican Revolution when the GOP took control of Congress.
>>> >>
>>> >> Back then, House Speaker Newt Gingrich failed to keep his
>>> >> rabble-rousing conservative warriors in line, leading to a government
>>> >> shutdown. Clinton came out on top, and handily won re-election in
>>> >> 1996.
>>> >>
>>> >> Obama already has signaled a desire to go the route of Clinton,
>>> >> signaling a willingness to work with Republicans on several issues,
>>> >> including trade deals with Colombia and Panama as well as the
>>> >> reauthorization of the No Child Left Behind education act.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Day 1 of the new Congress, the fight for middle-of-the-road voters
>>> >> was well under way. It won't end until November 2012.
>>> >>
>>> >> More:
>>> >>
>>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/05/AR2011010503216_2.html
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
>>> >> Have a great day,
>>> >> Tommy
>>> >>
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>>> Have a great day,
>>> Tommy
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