Tom,
There is not a woman in the United States who has been turned down for pre-natal care, in the last fifty or sixty years.
Once again, you are not credible when you come up with these militant far left extremist prevaricate statements.
It is hard for me to believe that you even would have the audacity to write something that stupid!
On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 5:33 AM, Mark <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,I don't live in nor do I benefit in any way from, the USA. But since I am a citizen I must now switch my healthcare program and buy the US policy or face penalties. I have full health/hospital insurance here in Costa Rica. Please explain why I need insurance in a country where I do not live, visit or even cross over on a plane. Then explain why I must pay for yours (or any one elses') as well.--
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:00 PM, dick thompson <rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
No, it is not a lie. Companies must offer plans that contain what the feds say must be there in order to be acceptable. The feds define what must be in them as a minimum and one of the big "selling points" of the legislation is that the plan must cover all cases in order for the feds to be able to cover all the things they promise. That means those who don't need certain procedures, such as the one I mentioned in my case where I have absolutely no need for pregnancy care or neo-natal care at my age and sex, still have to have that in the plan I get or it will bet be accepted. The insurers cannot sell plans that have not been approved. That is part of the reason they are trying to stop the HSA accounts that a lot of people have where they pay for their own routine care and use the insurance purchased only for catastrophic care.
On 01/05/2011 09:26 PM, Tommy News wrote:
That is a plain lie.
That is another plain lie.
That is yet another plain lie.
The derogatory term "Obamacare" is an offensive misnomer, and yet another lie.
On 1/5/11, dick thompson<rhomp2002@earthlink.net> wrote:
That is a plain lie. Your various insurance companies will have to
offer the plan as defined by the administration, not the plan the
individual may want or need. As an example I would have to buy a plan
that had neo-natal care and pregnancy care even though I am 70, single
and male. That is a change that makes no sense to me. As it stands now
I can pick and choose what plan I want or even have a plan that allows
me to pay for most of my current needs and have in addition a plan for
catastrophic care. The Obamacare plan does not allow that at all.
That is the lies and false smear that should be fought, not what the
Republicans are talking about.
On 01/05/2011 08:47 PM, Tommy News wrote:
Point is, Markie, those plans were unaffordable for many and--
unobtainable for those with "pre-existing conditions" like cancer and
other diseases, and even to pregnant women needing natal care.
In the United States, under President Obama's health reform bill, your
ability to choose personally the people to be involved in your health
care does not change one iota. Not one bit. You still have the exact
same feeedom of choice you had before. The Reich wing and the
corporate profiteers spread false lies about this and other provisions
of the bill constantly.
Fight the lies and false smear!
On 1/5/11, Mark<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Point is Tommy, the alternative was already in place. A free enterprise
system that allowed every working man, woman in the US to choose his or
her
own best policy.
We simply need to go back to that which worked and was the envy of the
world
as far as health care was concerned.
I want the people I choose personally to be involved in my healthy
care... I
do not want to be in a healthcare "queue" managed by faceless bureaucrats
Check those social welfare systems in any socialized medicine country and
see how many more people are eligible yet add in the numbers that
literally
die waiting. All of those countries have developed private systems to
serve
the working man.
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Wrong. You are not everyone.
Does Mr Boehner know about whom he's speaking when he and any of his
conservative cronies say "the American people". I think he and they
mean "it has to be my way". I wonder what their consituents will do
when they learn that they can't get the health care they need because
insurance companies ... well, we all know about that part of it. The
Republicans have been bitching and moaning about what they like to
derisively call "Obamacare", yet not one of them has come forward with
a scintilla of an alternative. I doubt if they have a plan since it
seems to me that they've mostly been concerned with knocking down
President Obama at every turn. Our health insurance system is one of
the most cumbersome in the world, since it's really not a system by
subject to the individual money-grabbing whims of the insurance
companies. We are supposedly the richest country in the world. While
we spend mountains of moolah on every kind of war effort, there's
never any money to take care of our citizens. It's interesting that
in all this talk about saving money, it's never once been brought up
that perhaps we should cut back in the war mongering department. We
say we're a peace-loving nation. Our actions do not back up our
words. I was born in 1940 and have lived through 5 wars (WW2, Korea,
Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan). That seems a bit on the excessive side.
I think it's important to remember that when it comes to war we are
not always in the right.
On 1/5/11, Mark<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
I bought the "rider" on my policy.... that is not an option they have.Free
enterprise means getting what you pay for.When
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
wrote:
Markie Mark Mark-
And what happens when you get cancer or some other disease and your
insurance company "death panel" drops your policy and you cannot buy
another policy because you now have a "pre-existing condition"? What
then, Markie Mark?
On 1/5/11, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
@@@@ they want to put insurance companies back in charge of our
health
care.@@@@
You bet I want that. I work hard and pay my own bills. I want to be
able to hire any one or any company I choose to meet my personal
needs
whether it is health care or which gas station to fill my tank.
On Jan 5, 2:13 pm, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
The dire negative consequences of health reform repeal
From Mitch Stewart, BarackObama . com
Tommy --
Our progress is under attack.
Their majority is not even a day old, but House Republicans are
already getting ready to pass a bill to repeal health reform.
Instead of focusing on the future, they want to put insurance
companies back in charge of our health care. To go back to the days
when these companies could deny coverage to children based on
pre-existing conditions, cancel coverage when people would get sick,
or limit the care you could receive -- even when you needed more.
theseniors would be forced to choose between paying their mortgage and
paying for their prescription drugs, simply because they landed in
Together,"donut hole" in coverage.
They want to turn our progress into a partisan fight.
But you and I know that the Affordable Care Act and other reforms to
protect consumers did not pass because of a partisan or ideological
agenda.
They passed because millions of Americans stood up and said we were
ready for commonsense solutions after years of fraud and abuse, for
a
new era of responsibility after unchecked power. They passed
because,
after 100 years of debate and negotiation, we said we would wait no
longer for health reform.
These reforms passed because of you. Now, we must prepare to stand
up
for them again.
Organizing for America is pulling together a team of organizers and
volunteers to defend reform -- and we need you on this team.
thewe'll show how our progress is already improving lives across the
country -- and take on those who are pushing for repeal.
Join the fight to protect our progress and keep Congress focused on
Actfuture:
http://my.barackobama.com/ProtectOurProgress7
It's clear that's not where House Republicans are looking -- they're
putting the car in reverse and heading straight toward the ditch
that
we just spent two years climbing out of.
As the President said this week, we are still emerging from a
recession that took a toll on millions of families, many of whom are
still trying to get their lives back on track. The Affordable Care
----and Wall Street reform were important steps forward on the road to--
recovery, and we can't afford to play political games with them now.
We have an obligation to ensure our progress is not rewritten by the
insurance industry and big banks.
This year, we'll need to stand by the President as he works to grow
our economy, make the United States more competitive, and keep
moving
the country forward -- but we're also going to have to work hard to
defend what we have already achieved.
Join the campaign to protect our progress:
http://my.barackobama.com/ProtectOurProgress7
Thanks,
Mitch
Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America
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