The US -- as crafted by its Constitution -- is a Constitutionally
LIMITED Republic. The States who created it choose a President (by
electors chosen by whatever method each State's legislature chooses),
the People of the States are 'district-ly' represented by a single
House Member . The States themselves WERE represented by Senators
(before that check was eliminated). The ENUMERATED Powers provided
said Government *may* call for democratic process, but such process
does NOT a democracy make. Those enumerated Powers can ONLY
(legitimately) be changed by those Sovereign States that put the
agreement into effect.
A Democracy, on the other hand, can be DIRECT or REPRESENTATIVE
... whatever the Mob (or at least what is perceived as such) desires
becomes law.
Regard$,
--MJ
Democracy: A government of the masses.
Authority derived through mass meeting or
any other form of direct expression. Results
in mobocracy. Attitude toward property is
communistic ... Attitude toward law is that
the will of the majority shall regulate,
whether it is based on deliberation or
governed by passion, prejudice, or impulse,
without restraint or regard to the
consequences. Result is demagogism,
license, agitation, discontent, anarchy.
-- U.S. Army training manual No. 2000-25 (1928-1932)
At 02:07 PM 1/20/2011, you wrote:
>I believe in Democracy
>---
>then you should move to democratic country
>
>The United States is, indeed, a republic, not a democracy. Accurately
>defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people
>decide policy matters directly--through town hall meetings or by
>voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other
>hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in
>turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the
>Constitution were altogether fearful of democracy. Everything they
>read and studied taught them that democracies "have ever been
>spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found
>incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and
>have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent
>in their deaths" (Federalist No. 10).
>
>On Jan 20, 12:05 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Old Sagey is wrong again.
> >
> > I am not a diciple of any school or movement, I am not a socialist,
> > and I am not a propagandist.
> >
> > I am an independent thinker with my own personal centrist
> Progressive beliefs.
> > I speak the truth, as I see it. I believe in Democracy, despite its
> > many flaws.
> >
> > It is the Far Right that is the real puveyour of lies, smear, and
> propaganda.
> >
> > On 1/19/11, Sage2 <wisdom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Don't you all know that Tommy is a student &
> > > disciple of the Saul Alinsky school of progressive socialism &
> > > propaganda?! Just like Bill Ayers and most progressives infesting our
> > > Colleges & Universities as well as government. They are like leeches
> > > crawling in the dark waiting to make any move at any time.
> > > Divisiveness & DEMagoguery being just a few of their tools of the
> > > trade.
> >
> > >
> ***************************************************************************
> **********************************************************
> >
> > > On Jan 19, 10:17 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> This is not a personal insult, it is a general and genuine political
> > >> opinion of mine.
> >
> > >> The far right extremists are indeed similar to the Third Reich in many
> > >> respects, especially regarding fear mongering, false propaganda, war
> > >> mongering, and pre-emptive "Bush Doctrine" illegal wars, self centered
> > >> supremist beliefs, corrupt profiteering, Corporate personhood and
> > >> greed, etc. Tell me I am wrong, and why?
> >
> > >> On 1/19/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> > Oh, THIS post. LOL
> >
> > >> > You toss Reich Wing around like candy and then have balls to ask, 'Do
> > >> > you feel that personal insuts and vicious attacks on group members are
> > >> > acceptable in this forum?"
> >
> > >> > Guess what doof. Reich Wing is a personal attack and an insult.
> >
> > >> > Duhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!
> >
> > >> > Have a good cry. Its fun to watch
> >
> > >> > On Jan 19, 9:50 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> You are evading or avoiding my questions.
> >
> > >> >> 1- Please show me specifically where it says anything about
> "Nazis" in
> > >> >> THIS
> > >> >> post.
> >
> > >> >> 2- Please show me exactly where i have cryed "like a 6 year old
> > >> >> girl about" anything at all?
> >
> > >> >> 3- Do you feel that personal insuts and vicious attacks on group
> > >> >> members are acceptable in this forum?
> >
> > >> >> 4- How old are you? Are you aware that bullies and many children find
> > >> >> humor in the vicious things that you find funny?
> >
> > >> >> On 1/19/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> > You toss Reich Wing around like candy, and whine like a girl if
> > >> >> > someone calls you a name, or cry "offensive" when
> challenged on your
> > >> >> > crying offense.
> >
> > >> >> > ALL THE TIME
> >
> > >> >> > Its hilarious. Please don't stop. I always need a good
> laugh in the
> > >> >> > morning, and you're a king.
> >
> > >> >> > On Jan 18, 10:07 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> Gregie-
> >
> > >> >> >> Please show me specifically where it says anything about
> "Nazis" in
> > >> >> >> this
> > >> >> >> post.
> > >> >> >> Also, please show me exactly where i have cryed "like a 6 year old
> > >> >> >> girl about" antthing at all?
> >
> > >> >> >> I am waiting.
> >
> > >> >> >> To Repeat:
> >
> > >> >> >> The illegal invasion of Iraq was indeed in violation of both the
> > >> >> >> United Nations Charter and also violated The Geneva
> Convention. See
> > >> >> >> the Kucinich Articles of Impeachment I have provided
> previously for
> > >> >> >> empirical proof and documentation.
> >
> > >> >> >> The "Bush Doctrine" was indeed illegal, and the war criminals
> > >> >> >> responsible should be prosecuted.
> >
> > >> >> >> The blood is on the hands of the Republican party of low.
> >
> > >> >> >> On 1/18/11, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> >> > What fun it is to see Tommy News cry like a 6 year old
> girl about
> > >> >> >> > being offended and called names, while in the same post calling
> > >> >> >> > any
> > >> >> >> > and everyone on the right Nazis.
> >
> > >> >> >> > Its Mel Brooks comedy, but the dif is, Mel is smart.
> >
> > >> >> >> > --
> > >> >> >> > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups.
> > >> >> >> > For options & help
> > >> >> >> > seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
> >
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> >
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > >> >> >> Have a great day,
> > >> >> >> Tommy
> >
> > >> >> > --
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> >
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> >
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > >> >> Have a great day,
> > >> >> Tommy- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > >> > --
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> >
> > >> --
> > >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > >> Have a great day,
> > >> Tommy- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > >> - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > --
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> > > For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum
> >
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> >
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
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