Monday, December 20, 2010

Re: Victory! Senate Repeals ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’, Despite 31 Republican No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt

Interesting you mention well behaved gays. Now how about non-well
behaved gays. You are taking the gays of one type and contrasting them
with the heteros of a totally different type and then saying see how
well behaved the gays are in contrast. That is a lie in action.

On 12/19/2010 01:24 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> Your homophobia is quite evident in these filthy minded, offensive statements.
> Heteosexuals are far,far more lewed and vulgar in and out of the
> barracks than most well behaved gays are.
>
> On 12/19/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE<markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Like I have said TommyTomTom once this gets implemented and Gays start
>> drawing DDs and BCDs for being openly Gay in the barracks (as was the
>> case before DADT) you and they will seek "special rights" such as DADT
>> offered. There is no room in the UCMJ for those "special rights" that
>> you and the other liberals will seek when this starts to happen.
>>
>> I wish you well.
>>
>> On Dec 19, 10:39 am, Keith In Tampa<keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> As we have established, you cannot point to any example of where I have
>>> demonsrated any hateful lie or smear. We all sit here, atwitter with
>>> excitement and anticipation, for you to point to any post where I have
>>> done
>>> so.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Tommy News<tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> No, you stop your hate smears and lies, Little Keithie.
>>>> On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa<keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!!
>>>>> <Grin>!!
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston
>>>>> <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will
>>>>>> pass
>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>> Yes we did.
>>>>>> Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted
>>>>>> against extending UI benefits, using your criteria?
>>>>>> On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by
>>>>>>> itself
>>>>>>> and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't
>>>>>>> matter
>>>>>>> what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the
>>>>>>> rest
>>>> of
>>>>>>> these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth
>>>>>>> passing.
>>>>>>> On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wrong again.
>>>>>>>> What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT
>>>>>>>> repeal
>>>>>>>> based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now
>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>> plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed.
>>>>>>>> 2012,
>>>>>>>> Bring it on.
>>>>>>>> On 12/18/10, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it
>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the
>>>> Omnibus
>>>>>>>>> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn
>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the
>>>> votes
>>>>>>>>> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than
>>>> DADT.
>>>>>>>>> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming
>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone.
>>>> Obviously
>>>>>>>>> that is not so.
>>>>>>>>> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�,
>>>>>>>>>> Despite
>>>> 31
>>>>>> Republican
>>>>>>>>>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long
>>>>>> overdue
>>>>>>>>>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> ENDA
>>>>>>>>>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for
>>>>>>>>>> Civil
>>>>>>>>>> Rights are next.
>>>>>>>>>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�
>>>>>>>>>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times
>>>>>>>>>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority
>>>>>>>>>> Leader
>>>>>>>>>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t
>>>>>>>>>> ask,
>>>>>> don�t
>>>>>>>>>> tell� vote.
>>>>>>>>>> By CARL HULSE
>>>>>>>>>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> ban
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing
>>>>>>>>>> to a
>>>>>>>>>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of
>>>>>>>>>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their
>>>>>> sexual
>>>>>>>>>> orientation.
>>>>>>>>>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman,
>>>> Susan
>>>>>>>>>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the
>>>> repeal
>>>>>>>>>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.�
>>>>>>>>>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining
>>>>>>>>>> Democrats,
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the
>>>>>>>>>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a
>>>> policy
>>>>>> critics
>>>>>>>>>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that
>>>>>>>>>> treated
>>>>>>>>>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens.
>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to
>>>>>>>>>> reverse
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our
>>>>>>>>>> history.�
>>>>>>>>>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that
>>>> making
>>>>>>>>>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our
>>>>>>>>>> troops
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever
>>>>>>>>>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a
>>>> preliminary
>>>>>>>>>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final
>>>>>>>>>> action
>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> the repeal bill.
>>>>>>>>>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the
>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> racial segregation in the military.
>>>>>>>>>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the
>>>> policy
>>>>>>>>>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit
>>>>>>>>>> cohesion
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps
>>>>>>>>>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional
>>>> action
>>>>>>>>>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a
>>>>>>>>>> court-ordered end.
>>>>>>>>>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish
>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable
>>>>>>>>>> personnel
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> forced troops to lie to serve their country.
>>>>>>>>>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the
>>>>>>>>>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.�
>>>>>>>>>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> came
>>>>>>>>>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of
>>>> college
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> military service and met other requirements including passing a
>>>>>>>>>> criminal background check.
>>>>>>>>>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five
>>>>>>>>>> votes
>>>>>>>>>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>> is known as the Dream Act.
>>>>>>>>>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate
>>>> beyond
>>>>>>>>>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>>>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as
>>>> advocates
>>>>>>>>>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people
>>>>>>>>>> interested
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures.
>>>>>>>>>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> Oregon,
>>>>>>>>>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> risk
>>>>>>>>>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.�
>>>>>>>>>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier
>>>> that
>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final
>>>> tests
>>>>>>>>>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday.
>>>>>>>>>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as
>>>>>>>>>> Democrats
>>>>>>>>>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn
>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in
>>>>>>>>>> January
>>>>>>>>>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished.
>>>>>>>>>> It represented a significant victory for the White House,
>>>>>>>>>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993
>>>>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the
>>>>>>>>>> practice
>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service.
>>>>>>>>>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the
>>>>>>>>>> gay
>>>>>>>>>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of
>>>>>>>>>> �don�t
>>>>>> ask,
>>>>>>>>>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after
>>>> the
>>>>>> vote.
>>>>>>>>>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t
>>>>>> tell� will
>>>>>>>>>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army
>>>>>>>>>> veteran
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
>>>>>>>>>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s
>>>>>>>>>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the
>>>>>>>>>> repeal
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> said the vote was a sad day in history.
>>>>>>>>>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will
>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we
>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps
>>>>>>>>>> said,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the
>>>>>> military,
>>>>>>>>>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our
>>>>>>>>>> young
>>>> men
>>>>>>>>>> and women in the military.�
>>>>>>>>>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could
>>>> harm
>>>>>>>>>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military
>>>>>>>>>> operations,
>>>>>>>>>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite
>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>> for
>>> ...
>>>
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