Monday, November 1, 2010

Re: Grim Dems await huge House losses :-)))))

Using words as clubs, as you do, is verbal violence.

Someone bite off your vile tongue, please.

On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
> a violent mouth?
>
> someone bite off your little 2 incher Tomy?
>
> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Bruce is a little bully girl with a vile violent potty mouth.
>>
>> On 11/1/10, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Tommy come out from behind Michelle's fat spreading ass
>> >
>> > If anyone here was violent you would have been beaten up for fun and
>> > dead
>> > long ago
>> >
>> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Travis is a violent bully.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/1/10, Travis <baconlard@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I can think of 533 PoS's that I would like to help join the
>> unemployment
>> >> > line. I have a 2X4 handy too.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Cold Water <coldwater000@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> *Grim Dems await huge House losses*
>> >> >> By: Alex Isenstadt
>> >> >> October 31, 2010 04:53 PM EDT
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The last TV ads have been cut. The final polls have been conducted.
>> The
>> >> >> end-of-campaign expenditures are being made.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now, for Democratic consultants and campaign officials who have
>> plotted
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> strategized for months to preserve the embattled House majority,
>> >> >> there's
>> >> >> nothing left to do but sit and wait for the expected horrors of
>> >> >> Election
>> >> >> Day
>> >> >> to unfold.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is nearly uniform consensus among Democratic campaign
>> >> professionals
>> >> >> that the House is gone — the only question, it seems, is how many
>> seats
>> >> >> they
>> >> >> will lose.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> While few will say so on the record for fear of alienating party
>> >> officials
>> >> >> or depressing turnout, every one of nearly a dozen Democratic House
>> >> >> consultants and political strategists surveyed expect a GOP majority
>> to
>> >> be
>> >> >> elected Tuesday — the consensus was that Democrats would lose
>> somewhere
>> >> >> between 50 and 60 seats.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> A senior party consultant who was on the low end with his
>> >> >> predictions
>> >> said
>> >> >> the party would lose between 40 and 50 seats. On the high end, one
>> >> >> Democratic consultant said losses could number around 70 seats.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> All spoke to the grimness of the mood.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "It sucks," said Dave Beattie, a Florida-based Democratic pollster
>> who
>> >> is
>> >> >> working on a slate of competitive House races and who acknowledges
>> that
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> lower congressional chamber is lost. "I'm resigned to the fact that
>> it
>> >> >> sucks."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> While there was optimistic talk within party circles early this
>> >> >> month
>> >> that
>> >> >> the electoral environment was improving for the party, the
>> >> >> operatives
>> >> said
>> >> >> those conversations don't take place anymore.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "If some Democratic consultant told you they are feeling better,
>> >> >> they
>> >> must
>> >> >> have dropped some heavy drugs," said a senior pollster who is
>> >> >> working
>> >> for
>> >> >> candidates in competitive races. "It's hard."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee this week launched
>> >> >> something of a last-ditch offensive to save some of its incumbents,
>> >> >> purchasing airtime to defend endangered members like Iowa Rep. Dave
>> >> >> Loebsack, Illinois Rep. Bill Foster and New Jersey Rep. John Adler —
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> whom are highly vulnerable but whom party officials believe could
>> >> >> ultimately
>> >> >> prevail.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The committee also sought to shore up incumbents who until recently
>> >> >> were
>> >> >> not thought to be in electoral peril: Arizona Rep. Raul Grijalva,
>> Iowa
>> >> >> Rep.
>> >> >> Bruce Braley and North Carolina Rep. Mike McIntyre.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Still, among those in the Democratic consulting class, there's a
>> gloomy
>> >> >> acknowledgment that many of the incumbents the DCCC has spent
>> millions
>> >> of
>> >> >> dollars to protect won't be coming back to Congress.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Everybody that is tied will lose, and everyone that is ahead by a
>> few
>> >> >> points will lose because of the GOP wave," said one party media
>> >> consultant
>> >> >> who is involved in a wide array of House races. "There are going to
>> be
>> >> >> some
>> >> >> surprises."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Some strategists have resigned themselves to an election night that
>> >> >> will
>> >> >> bring an early end to the promising careers of Democrats they
>> >> >> shepherded
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> victories in 2006 and 2008.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "In a wave election, part of the problem is that you feel powerless.
>> >> >> Everything I feel I know how to do, that I'm trained to do, I can't
>> do.
>> >> >> And
>> >> >> that feeling is pervasive," said the pollster. "There's a sense that
>> >> >> there's
>> >> >> nothing you can do about it. When you know your friends are on the
>> >> >> chopping
>> >> >> block, it's hard."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "There's nothing worse than talking to an incumbent member of
>> Congress
>> >> >> who's been cut off by the DCCC and who has no money," said another
>> >> >> Democratic consultant who has worked on crafting some of the party's
>> TV
>> >> >> ads
>> >> >> this cycle. "It's like talking to a dead man walking."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But Nov. 2 will also bring a welcome end to a rough final stretch
>> that
>> >> >> left
>> >> >> many party strategists frustrated. Some talked about having to
>> >> >> switch
>> >> >> campaign strategies multiple times in hapless attempts to raise
>> >> >> rock-bottom
>> >> >> poll numbers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "It's a 24-hour labor," said John Anzalone, an Alabama-based
>> >> >> pollster
>> >> who
>> >> >> works closely with the DCCC. "In 2006 and 2008, everything was going
>> >> your
>> >> >> way. This is brutal."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> There is ongoing debate within Democratic circles about when,
>> exactly,
>> >> the
>> >> >> party lost its handle on the electoral environment. Some consultants
>> >> >> say
>> >> >> they realized they lost the House in early October, when it finally
>> >> became
>> >> >> apparent that incumbents couldn't move their poll numbers.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But others say the electoral map hardened this spring, after the
>> House
>> >> >> passed a health care bill that remains deeply unpopular among
>> >> >> voters.
>> >> >> Democratic campaign officials say it is no accident that there are
>> few
>> >> >> Democrats in moderate-to-conservative districts who have promoted
>> their
>> >> >> support for the health care measure on the campaign trail, and most
>> >> don't
>> >> >> even acknowledge it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "To a lot of folks, it was a symbol of government," said Beattie,
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> Florida-based pollster. "It's not about the content for most
>> >> >> voters."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Already, the finger-pointing is beginning. With outside conservative
>> >> >> groups
>> >> >> pouring millions of dollars into races across the country, some
>> >> operatives
>> >> >> singled out liberal interest groups for not engaging in the
>> >> >> election.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "If there's one person to blame, it's the liberal groups who said
>> they
>> >> >> would get involved early but they didn't," said the media
>> >> >> consultant.
>> >> >> "I
>> >> >> think they've been totally unhelpful."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But, most of the consultants said, much of the post-election
>> >> >> scrutiny
>> >> >> would
>> >> >> surround President Barack Obama and a White House political
>> >> >> operation
>> >> that
>> >> >> over the past two years struggled to sell an ambitious agenda that
>> >> turned
>> >> >> out to be radioactive to a wide swath of the electorate.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Here's the part of this that bothers me the most: This is not an
>> >> >> embracing
>> >> >> of Republicans. It's a rejection of Democrats," said Andrew Myers, a
>> >> >> veteran
>> >> >> Democratic pollster who worked on several House campaigns.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
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>> >> >>
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>> >> Have a great day,
>> >> Tommy
>> >>
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>> Tommy
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