Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Re: Zimmerman shooting not a hate crime

On Aug 7, 9:47 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When some groups,
> such as the right-to-lifers, start blackmailing candidates for office
> to support their personal cause, or else, the LEADERS of such a group,
> even church ministers, will be committing a felony.
> ---
> blackmail is already a felony
>
Dear plainol: One purpose of my N. Constitution is to actually
include many of the important laws within the document so people
knowing just the N. Constitution will pretty well understand how they
are expected to act and how governments must act in dealing with
them. There won't be any "diluting" political compromises, because
there will be no more political parties. And there will be no more
motives for lobbying government, because the scope of government will
no longer include "social" anything. But no one past retirement age
need worry about surviving, because their payments will continue till
death. The positive part is that there will be no more people paying
for social anything, because the law will require that that same money
go into PERSONAL RETIREMENT and HEALTH INSURANCE accounts until such
time as there is a sufficient cushion in an account before any funds
can be withdrawn. Sending money to governments only returns about 75
cents on a dollar. But putting money in investment accounts will
double the money every 15 to 20 years, at the maximum. Would you
rather be a rich individual, or a scared-to-death government
dependant?? All the USA needs to do is what Peru did—privatize the
unworkable social programs!
>
> as soon as some "group spokesperson or celebrity" says one word in the
> media lobbying for their group, that person will be arrested.
> ---
> heil hitler
>
The person claiming the power of Hitler is the media celebrity or
guest who tries to sway an election by stating their personal choice
for President on the air or in print. There is nothing in the original
Constitution that says or implies that celebrities can have 1,000
times more influence on the outcomes of elections than the voters. My
N. Constitution is all about FAIRNESS and parity of influence. If you
don't champion those two things, you are not in line with the will of
the Founding Fathers.
>
> And any
> person proposing boycotting of any business, such as Chic-Fil-A, will
> not only be committing a huge felony, they will personally be liable
> for any loss of business that results!  Instead of arguing about
> ---
> free speech rules
>
NO!!!!! Free speech shall NEVER entitle any person to propose the
boycotting of a legitimate business! Doing so is a high crime that
will put the organizers in JAIL.
>
> "marriage" for gays, my N. Constitution coins an apt-sounding word:
> 'Gayged', or Gaygement.  The homosexuals have already ruined a
> perfectly good word, "Gay", and they won't be ruining the perfectly
> good word, marriage.
> ---
> only the religious persecute homosexuals ... it's very unbecoming
>
My N. Constitution doesn't persecute anyone. Nor does it disallow
having the mores of the people influence the life decisions of those
who would be gayged.
>
>  When someone says they are married, they will at
> the same time be saying that they are STRAIGHT.
> ---
> Many married men with children have discovered that they are gay.
> Persecuting homosexuals, bisexuals, transvestites, or inbetweens is
> wrong.
>
plainol…: The issue isn't persecution, it is the stigmatizing of
STRAIGHT people because of not having a clear sexual connotation of
the word married. If a sad "married" person realizes they are... gay,
they can (preferred) stay in-the-closet. Or if they are "proud" they
should divorce and get gayged. Nothing that consenting people do in
their bedrooms will ever be second-guessed by politicians and
governments!
>
>   It should be
> comforting to know, that under my N. Constitution, there will no
> longer be any government record-keeping and licenses for marriages or
> gaygements.
> ---
> works for me
>
>   People will be encouraged to sign prenuptial agreements.
> ---
> or not
>
One of the reasons governments got involved in "family" record keeping
was because those issues kept being made court cases. Insurance
companies, also, needed reliable predictors of the risks of their
policies, so governments started defining WHO would be responsible for
what, in marriages. If the insurance companies AND the courts have
access to prenuptial agreement documents WHEN AND IF NEEDED, there is
no reason any government needs to have any information on law-abiding
citizens NOT employed by government.
>
> In no case do governments have any right to dictate what transpires in
> anyone's bedrooms, so long as the parties consent.
> ---
> nothing new here
>
> On Aug 4, 5:33 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear plainol...:  Hurrah!!!!!  Maybe there is hope for you, yet!!!!!
> > Groups are the ones who lobby for more influence than one-person-one
> > vote grants.  They "pump up their members" by claiming that the rest
> > of the world must, somehow, be converted to be like the misguided
> > groups.  America's strength is our group diversity.  When some groups,
> > such as the right-to-lifers, start blackmailing candidates for office
> > to support their personal cause, or else, the LEADERS of such a group,
> > even church ministers, will be committing a felony.  The American
> > people will always have 100% free will to vote as they choose.  But as
> > soon as some "group spokesperson or celebrity" says one word in the
> > media lobbying for their group, that person will be arrested.  And any
> > person proposing boycotting of any business, such as Chic-Fil-A, will
> > not only be committing a huge felony, they will personally be liable
> > for any loss of business that results!  Instead of arguing about
> > "marriage" for gays, my N. Constitution coins an apt-sounding word:
> > 'Gayged', or Gaygement.  The homosexuals have already ruined a
> > perfectly good word, "Gay", and they won't be ruining the perfectly
> > good word, marriage.  When someone says they are married, they will at
> > the same time be saying that they are STRAIGHT.  It should be
> > comforting to know, that under my N. Constitution, there will no
> > longer be any government record-keeping and licenses for marriages or
> > gaygements.  People will be encouraged to sign prenuptial agreements.
> > In no case do governments have any right to dictate what transpires in
> > anyone's bedrooms, so long as the parties consent.
>
> > — J. A. A. —
>
> > On Aug 3, 5:00 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > My N. Constitution strips all groups of
> > > unjustified influence and empowers individuals
> > > ---
> > > I like it!!!
>
> > > On Aug 2, 11:15 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Dear Plainol...:  99.99% of the problems with our governments and with
> > > > unrest in the world are caused by 'fight rather than befriend' group-
> > > > against-group divisiveness.  My N. Constitution strips all groups of
> > > > unjustified influence and empowers individuals knowledgeable of that
> > > > document, as a total, to fire any person, without recourse, who
> > > > violates their civil rights.  Those employed by governments will
> > > > surely think twice before they act in a non-deferential way to any law
> > > > abiding citizen.  — J. A. Armistead —
>
> > > > On Aug 2, 11:50 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > The solution to our group-against-group problems is as simple as
> > > > > fostering of the same free-market capitalism that made the USA great!
> > > > > ---
> > > > > opinion noted ... not shared
> > > > > the solution is to remove any regard to one's race, ethnicity,
> > > > > religion or other demographic in an attempt to make people equal.
>
> > > > > Jews, instead of insisting that Americans backup their questionable
> > > > > Jewish nation—which was taken by the force of arms—
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Americans should backup America and leave israel to their own
> > > > > devices .. we owe them nothing
>
> > > > > should openly
> > > > > acknowledge their wrongs.  They should organize quality schools to
> > > > > teach Muslims how to prosper through fair capitalism.
> > > > > ---
> > > > > their religious war ... their problem
>
> > > > >   Disputed land
> > > > > should be developed like two-layer gardens that respect Muslim rights,
> > > > > in a capitalist, rather than a theocracy-based context.
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Israel is a religious state that uses talmud law and you expect them
> > > > > to treat muzzies fairly?
>
> > > > >   If people of
> > > > > all nations and races will rally behind our commonality, rather than
> > > > > accentuating our differences,
> > > > > ---
> > > > > oh, like the jewish-americans, african-americans, and hispanic-
> > > > > americans?
> > > > > you're either an American or something else
>
> > > > >  there can be peace not only on the
> > > > > streets of our large cities, but throughout every corner of our great
> > > > > earth!
> > > > > ---
> > > > > fund your own charities for the earth.
> > > > > Americans should and will take care of America.
>
> > > > > On Aug 1, 5:58 pm, NoEinstein <noeinst...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Dear Keith:  One of your recent replies was a 'link' to a Black
> > > > > > violence video.  Here is what I just composed in reply:
>
> > > > > > Dear Keith:  Moral people make decisions based on the broadest context
> > > > > > of the less-than-perfect world situation.  I read that people with
> > > > > > high IQ, like me, can make the best moral judgments, because doing so
> > > > > > requires consideration of so many different things from so many
> > > > > > different points of view.  Almost without exception, the scenes from
> > > > > > your "hate Blacks" video were centered in large cities.  It is a sad,
> > > > > > but recognized fact, that economically-distressed minorities remain in
> > > > > > city ghettos because 'misery likes company'.  Most of those Blacks in
> > > > > > your video feel POWERLESS in the real world.  They try to compensate
> > > > > > for that by showing group power, at night, over those they wrongly
> > > > > > perceive as getting advantages, simply because they were born white.
> > > > > > The thousands of Jeremiah Wrights preaching hatred from their pulpits
> > > > > > are certainly a big part of the problem.  The late tennis great,
> > > > > > Arthur Ashe, a Black, decried having Black athletes be over idealized
> > > > > > such that 'mainstream' Black youths think having athletic ability and
> > > > > > getting to be super wealthy is the only path to happiness.  There are
> > > > > > few if any role models for blacks saying: "Work hard and be a good
> > > > > > person to know, and you can be both financially and socially happy."
> > > > > > You can't find one successful Black saying: "Form violent gangs and
> > > > > > beat-up-on as many whites as you can and you will be financially and
> > > > > > socially happy."
>
> > > > > > Charlotte's Bernie Goldberg, a frequent FOX News commentator, decries
> > > > > > the great number of Blacks born out of wedlock who are raised without
> > > > > > a good male role model.  Trayvon Martin was most fortunate to have had
> > > > > > a black male role model.  He was also fortunate not to live in a big
> > > > > > city.  Yes, the 'culture' of black youths favors those who can portray
> > > > > > toughness.  But if all of those who make a "look mean" photo,
> > > > > > automatically, are criminals, then we will need to triple our number
> > > > > > of prison cells in order to clear our city streets of gangs.
>
> > > > > > The solution to our group-against-group problems is as simple as
> > > > > > fostering of the same free-market capitalism that made the USA great!
> > > > > > Those wasted lives of inner city Black youths waiting for the next
> > > > > > government welfare check, can easily be put to good use, once enough
> > > > > > equally disadvantaged Black youths become examples of "success through
> > > > > > hard work".  The decision will be between WORKING, and being better
> > > > > > than average, or only being average, at best, while on the public
> > > > > > dole.  My book, 'The Shortest Distance; Harmony Through Prosperity',
> > > > > > should be read by as many Blacks (and whites) as possible.  Know this:
> > > > > > Few people on earth who are successfully providing for their own
> > > > > > needs, plus the needs of their families, will ever resort to
> > > > > > unjustified violence against others.  Muslims, are preaching racial
> > > > > > hatred 1,000 times greater than Blacks are acting-out.  Muslim
> > > > > > violence and hatred can be placated, similarly, by teaching Muslims,
> > > > > > world wide, how to compete fairly in free capitalist markets, and
> > > > > > without hatred and bias.
>
> > > > > > Jews, instead of insisting that Americans backup their questionable
> > > > > > Jewish nation—which was taken by the force of arms—should
>
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