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I do and you have already admitted that you don't
here's a primer ... read it thoroughly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism
You have been filled
with such hatred and misinformation
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cite specific hatred
you're the one with a hatred for islam ... a religion with just as
many kooks as xianity and judaism
On Dec 14, 5:04 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Again, I don't think you know what a NeoCon is. You have been filled
> with such hatred and misinformation, that you wouldn't know the truth if it
> hit you right square in the ass.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 3:56 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Your views on isolationism,
> > ---
> > I don't advocate isolationism ... but you do advocate imperialism
>
> > extremism,
> > ---
> > exemplified by the US invasion of the middle east
>
> > and anti-semitism are noted.
> > ---
> > you're accusation has been noted ... so has has your allegiance to the
> > imperialist warmongering zionist neocons
>
> > On Dec 14, 2:02 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Your views on isolationism, extremism, and anti-semitism are noted.
>
> > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:53 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > there is no socialist-elitist Democrat who is
> > > > going to bring prosperity to any community, State, region or on the
> > > > federal level
> > > > ---
> > > > agreed
>
> > > > then there's the waste of our nation's wealth and soldiers on other
> > > > countries (interventionism) at the hands of the republicans and
> > > > democrats
>
> > > > vote for Ron Paul and rebuild America as a powerhouse, without
> > > > imperialist warmongering
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 9:57 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > The bottom line, is that there is no socialist-elitist Democrat who
> > is
> > > > > going to bring prosperity to any community, State, region or on the
> > > > > federal level. The socialist-elitist Democrats have not brought any
> > new
> > > > > ideas or thoughts to the table in over seventy years. It is a broken
> > > > down
> > > > > simplistic, "Help Your Fellow Man" theory that again, is broken and
> > will
> > > > > not work in any Nation, State or community. It has failed
> > miserably,
> > > > but
> > > > > yet socialist Elitist Democrats, (*e.g.;* they are either Moonbats
> > or
> > > > > they are Anti-American, one of the two and there is no other
> > explanation
> > > > > for anyone being a Democrat anymore) continue to believe that
> > Marxism,
> > > > > Maoism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, Communism, et. al, are all really
> > > > > wonderful systems of social, economic and political justice, we just
> > > > > haven't had the right folks implementing these systems yet.
>
> > > > > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:50 AM, <drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > > > > The corruption and devastation certainly became palpable with
> > Coleman
> > > > > > Young, but let's not forget the contribution from Jennifer
> > Granholm and
> > > > > > Kwame Kilpatrick.
>
> > > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > > *From: *"Keith In Tampa" <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > *To: *politicalforum@googlegroups.com
> > > > > > *Sent: *Wednesday, December 14, 2011 10:42:24 AM
> > > > > > *Subject: *Re: 2011.10.28 DETROIT - MODEL FOR THE FUTURE? - NOT!
>
> > > > > > Frosty Woolridge hit the nail on the head in this column. Thanks
> > for
> > > > > > sharing Travis. I hope everyone takes the time to read the column.
>
> > > > > > On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Travis <baconl...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> ** **
>
> > > > > >> A quick check of google, indicates that Detroit has NEVER had a
> > > > > >> conservative mayor!****
> > > > > >> ------------------------------
>
> > > > > >> ** **
>
> > > > > >> Don't think this could not happen elsewhere.****
>
> > > > > >> ****
>
> > > > > >> *DETROIT** - A MODEL FOR THE FUTURE?* ****
>
> > > > > >> [image:
> > cid:ECB352C5B1944AEFB58352952FC313C3@ownerPC]
> > > > > >> Frosty Wooldridge *(born 1947)* is a US journalist,
> > > > > >> writer, environmentalist, traveler.****
>
> > > > > >> DETROIT
> > > > > >> By Frosty Wooldridge****
>
> > > > > >> For 15 years, from the mid 1970's to 1990, I worked in Detroit,
> > > > Michigan.
> > > > > >> I watched it descend into the abyss of crime, debauchery, gun
> > play,
> > > > > >> drugs, school truancy, car-jacking, gangs and human depravity. I
> > > > watched
> > > > > >> entire city blocks burned out. I watched graffiti explode on
> > > > buildings,
> > > > > >> cars, trucks, buses and school yards. Trash everywhere!****
>
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA2.1312373...@aol.com]****
>
> > > > > >> Detroiters walked through it, tossed more into it, and ignored it.
> > > > Tens
> > > > > >> of thousands, and then hundreds of thousands today exist on
> > federal
> > > > > >> welfare, free housing, and food stamps!****
>
> > > > > >> *With Aid to Dependent Children, minority women birthed 8 to 10
> > and in
> > > > > >> one case, one woman birthed 24 children as reported by the Detroit
> > > > Free
> > > > > >> Press, all on American taxpayer dollars.*****
>
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA3.1312373...@aol.com]****
>
> > > > > >> A new child meant a new car payment, new TV, and whatever mom
> > wanted.
> > > > I
> > > > > >> saw Lyndon Johnson's 'Great Society' flourish in Detroit . If you
> > give
> > > > > >> money for doing nothing, you will get more hands out taking money
> > for
> > > > doing
> > > > > >> nothing.****
>
> > > > > >> Mayor Coleman Young, perhaps the most corrupt mayor in America,
> > > > outside
> > > > > >> of Richard Daley in Chicago, rode Detroit down to its knees... He
> > set
> > > > the
> > > > > >> benchmark for cronyism, incompetence, and arrogance. As a black
> > man,
> > > > he
> > > > > >> said, "I am the MFIC." The IC meant "in charge".
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA4.1312373...@aol.com]
> > > > > >> You can figure out the rest. Detroit became a majority black city
> > > > with 67
> > > > > >> percent African-Americans.****
>
> > > > > >> As a United Van Lines truck driver for my summer job from teaching
> > > > math
> > > > > >> and science, I loaded hundreds of American families into my van
> > for a
> > > > new
> > > > > >> life in another city or state.****
>
> > > > > >> Detroit plummeted from 1.8 million citizens to 912,000 today. At
> > the
> > > > > >> same time, legal and illegal immigrants converged on the city for
> > the
> > > > > >> free government hand outs, so much so, that Muslims number over
> > > > 300,000.
> > > > > >> Mexicans number 400,000 throughout Michigan, but most work in
> > Detroit.
> > > > > >> As the whites moved out, the Muslims moved in.
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA5.1312373...@aol.com]
> > > > > >> As the crimes became more violent, the whites fled. Finally,
> > unlawful
> > > > > >> Mexicans moved in at a torrid pace. Detroit suffers so much
> > > > shoplifting
> > > > > >> that grocery stores no longer operate in many inner city
> > locations.
> > > > You
> > > > > >> could cut the racial tension in the air with a knife! Detroit may
> > be
> > > > one of
> > > > > >> our best examples of multiculturalism: pure dislike, and total
> > > > separation
> > > > > >> from America.****
>
> > > > > >> Today, you hear Muslim calls to worship over the city like a new
> > > > American
> > > > > >> Baghdad with hundreds of Islamic mosques in Michigan, paid for by
> > > > Saudi
> > > > > >> Arabia oil money. High school flunk out rates reached 76 percent
> > last
> > > > June,
> > > > > >> according to NBC's Brian Williams. Classrooms resemble more
> > foreign
> > > > > >> countries than America. English? Few speak it! The city features
> > a 50
> > > > > >> percent illiteracy rate and growing.
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA6.1312373...@aol.com]
> > > > > >> Unemployment hit 28.9 percent in 2009 as the auto industry
> > vacated the
> > > > > >> city. In Time Magazine's October 4, 2009, "The Tragedy of Detroit:
> > > > How a
> > > > > >> great city fell, and how it can rise again," I choked on the
> > writer's
> > > > > >> description of what happened. "If Detroit had been ravaged by a
> > > > hurricane,
> > > > > >> and submerged by a ravenous flood, we'd know a lot more about it,"
> > > > > >> Said Daniel Okrent. "If drought and carelessness had spread brush
> > > > fires
> > > > > >> across the city, we'd see it on the evening news every night."
> > > > Earthquake,
> > > > > >> tornadoes, you name it, if natural disaster had devastated the
> > city
> > > > that
> > > > > >> was once the living proof of American prosperity, the rest of the
> > > > country
> > > > > >> might take notice.
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA7.1312373...@aol.com]
> > > > > >> But Detroit, once our fourth largest city, now 11th and slipping
> > > > rapidly,
> > > > > >> has had no such luck.****
>
> > > > > >> Its disaster has long been a slow unwinding that seemed to remove
> > it
> > > > from
> > > > > >> the rest of the country. Even the death rattle that in the past
> > year
> > > > > >> emanated from its signature industry brought more attention to the
> > > > auto
> > > > > >> executives than to the people of the city, who had for so long
> > been
> > > > > >> victimized by their dreadful decisions making.
>
> > > > > >> [image: cid:X.MA8.1312373...@aol.com]
> > > > > >> As Coleman Young's corruption brought the city to its knees, no
> > > > amount of
> > > > > >> federal dollars could save the incredible payoffs, kickbacks and
> > > > illegality
> > > > > >> permeating his administration. I witnessed the city's death from
> > the
> > > > seat
> > > > > >> of my 18-wheeler tractor trailer because I moved people out of
> > every
> > > > sector
> > > > > >> of decaying Detroit.****
>
> > > > > >> "By any quantifiable standard, the city is on life support.
> > Detroit 's
> > > > > >> treasury is $300 million short of the funds needed to provide the
> > > > barest
> > > > > >> municipal services," Okrent said. "The school system, which six
> > years
> > > > ago
> > > > > >> was compelled by the teachers' union to reject a philanthropist's
> > > > offer of
> > > > > >> $200 million to build 15 small, independent charter high schools,
> > is
> > > > in
> > > > > >> receivership.****
>
> > > > > >> The murder rate is soaring, and 7 out of 10 remain unsolved. Three
> > > > years
> > > > > >> after Katrina devastated New Orleans , unemployment in that city
> > hit
> > > > a peak
> > > > > >> of 11%. In Detroit today, the unemployment rate is 28.9%. That's
> > worth
> > > > > >> spelling out: twenty-eight point nine percent. ****
>
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