On 12/19/10, Keith In Tampa <keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Stop the hate, smear and lies Lil Tommy!!
>
> <Grin>!!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:27 PM, GregfromBoston
> <greg.vincent@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will
>> pass
>> -------------------------
>>
>> Yes we did.
>>
>> Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted
>> against extending UI benefits, using your criteria?
>>
>> On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by itself
>> > and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't matter
>> > what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the rest of
>> > these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth
>> > passing.
>> >
>> > On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Wrong again.
>> > > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT repeal
>> > > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now been
>> > > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out of
>> > > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. 2012,
>> > > Bring it on.
>> >
>> > > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> > >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will
>> > >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the Omnibus
>> > >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn something
>> but
>> > >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the votes
>> > >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than DADT.
>> > >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming
>> > >> anything
>> > >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. Obviously
>> > >> that is not so.
>> >
>> > >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>> > >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, Despite 31
>> Republican
>> > >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long
>> overdue
>> > >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige of
>> > >>> ENDA
>> > >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for Civil
>> > >>> Rights are next.
>> >
>> > >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�
>> >
>> > >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times
>> > >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority Leader
>> > >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t ask,
>> don�t
>> > >>> tell� vote.
>> >
>> > >>> By CARL HULSE
>> > >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the
>> > >>> ban
>> on
>> > >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a
>> > >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of
>> > >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their
>> sexual
>> > >>> orientation.
>> >
>> > >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, Susan
>> > >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the repeal
>> > >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.�
>> >
>> > >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, the
>> > >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the
>> > >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a policy
>> critics
>> > >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated
>> > >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens.
>> >
>> > >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to reverse
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our
>> > >>> history.�
>> >
>> > >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that making
>> > >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our troops
>> > >>> as
>> > >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever
>> > >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a preliminary
>> > >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final action on
>> > >>> the repeal bill.
>> >
>> > >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the end of
>> > >>> racial segregation in the military.
>> >
>> > >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the policy
>> > >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit cohesion and
>> > >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps
>> > >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional action
>> > >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a
>> > >>> court-ordered end.
>> >
>> > >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish what
>> > >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable personnel and
>> > >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country.
>> >
>> > >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the
>> > >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end the
>> > >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.�
>> >
>> > >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that would
>> have
>> > >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants who
>> > >>> came
>> > >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of college
>> or
>> > >>> military service and met other requirements including passing a
>> > >>> criminal background check.
>> >
>> > >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five votes
>> > >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage of
>> > >>> what
>> > >>> is known as the Dream Act.
>> >
>> > >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate beyond
>> > >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of the
>> > >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring it to
>> > >>> a
>> > >>> vote.
>> >
>> > >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging in an
>> > >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as advocates
>> > >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people interested in
>> > >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures.
>> >
>> > >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of
>> Oregon,
>> > >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough to
>> > >>> risk
>> > >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.�
>> >
>> > >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier that
>> he
>> > >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final tests
>> > >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday.
>> >
>> > >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as Democrats
>> > >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn over
>> > >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in
>> > >>> January
>> > >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished.
>> >
>> > >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House,
>> > >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who have
>> > >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 under
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the practice of
>> > >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service.
>> >
>> > >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the gay
>> > >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of �don�t
>> ask,
>> > >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after the
>> vote.
>> >
>> > >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted all
>> around
>> > >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t
>> tell� will
>> > >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran and
>> > >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
>> >
>> > >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s
>> > >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the repeal and
>> > >>> said the vote was a sad day in history.
>> >
>> > >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand
>> > >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we could
>> > >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps said,
>> and
>> > >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the
>> military,
>> > >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our young men
>> > >>> and women in the military.�
>> >
>> > >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could harm
>> > >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military
>> > >>> operations,
>> > >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting or
>> > >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite support
>> for
>> > >>> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm.
>> Mike
>> > >>> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military
>> > >>> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove
>> > >>> disruptive.
>> >
>> > >>> �This isn�t broke,� Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of
>> Oklahoma,
>> > >>> said about the policy. �It is working very well.�
>> >
>> > >>> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be
>> > >>> changed
>> > >>> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops are
>> > >>> fighting overseas.
>> >
>> > >>> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the �don�t ask, don�t
>> tell�
>> > >>> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least two
>> > >>> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The
>> > >>> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a broader
>> > >>> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had refused
>> > >>> to
>> > >>> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill because
>> > >>> of objections over limits on debate of the measure.
>> >
>> > >>> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins of
>> > >>> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged Democratic
>> > >>> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply repealing
>> it.
>> > >>> The House passed the measure earlier in the week.
>> >
>> > >>> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and probably
>> > >>> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In addition,
>> > >>> the
>> > >>> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies are
>> > >>> in
>> > >>> place to carry out the repeal �consistent with military standards
>> for
>> > >>> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and
>> > >>> retention.�
>> >
>> > >>> Multimedia
>> > >>> Interactive Graphic
>> > >>> How the Senate Voted
>> >
>> > >>> Timeline
>> > >>> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
>> >
>> > >>> Blogs
>> > >>> The Caucus
>> > >>> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news from
>> > >>> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion.
>> >
>> > >>> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus
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>> > >>> �It is going to take some time,� Ms. Collins said. �It is not
>> going to
>> >
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