pass
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Yes we did.
Ready to move on Tom, or would you like a list of democrats who voted
against extending UI benefits, using your criteria?
On Dec 18, 11:20 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> You really are a dipsh*t. We told you long ago bring it up by itself
> and it will pass. They finally did and it passed. Doesn't matter
> what else you say, that is what happened. Now to see that the rest of
> these bills continue getting voted down. None of them are worth passing.
>
> On 12/18/2010 10:02 PM, Tommy News wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wrong again.
> > What I saw was that 31 Republican Senators voted against DADT repeal
> > based upon their stand alone misguided homophobia which has now been
> > plainly exposed. We must now campaign to vote all 31 of them out of
> > office to get ENDA, UAFA, and AEB passed, and DOMA repealed. 2012,
> > Bring it on.
>
> > On 12/18/10, dick thompson<rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> Like we told you a long time ago. Bring it up by itself and it will
> >> pass. Instead you kept trying to blame the votes against the Omnibus
> >> earmark bill on the DADT alone. Someday you might learn something but
> >> I kinda doubt it. Now maybe you will accept that some of the votes
> >> against the Omnibus krep bill were against something other than DADT.
> >> Although I doubt that too. You are far too wedded to blaming anything
> >> that goes against what you want as being homophobic alone. Obviously
> >> that is not so.
>
> >> On 12/18/2010 09:43 PM, Tommy News wrote:
> >>> Victory! Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�, Despite 31 Republican
> >>> No Votes and John McCain's Fillibuster Attempt. This is a long overdue
> >>> victory for Civil Rights equality. Repeal of DOMA and Passige of ENDA
> >>> and UAFA, and introduction of The American Equality Bill for Civil
> >>> Rights are next.
>
> >>> Senate Repeals �Don�t Ask, Don�t Tell�
>
> >>> Drew Angerer/The New York Times
> >>> Senator Joseph I. Lieberman gave the thumbs up as Majority Leader
> >>> Harry Reid spoke at a press conference after the �don�t ask, don�t
> >>> tell� vote.
>
> >>> By CARL HULSE
> >>> nk WASHINGTON � The Senate on Saturday voted to strike down the ban on
> >>> gay men and lesbians serving openly in the military, bringing to a
> >>> close a 17-year struggle over a policy that forced thousands of
> >>> Americans from the ranks and caused others to keep secret their sexual
> >>> orientation.
>
> >>> Clockwise from left, Senators Mark Udall, Joseph I. Lieberman, Susan
> >>> Collins and Kirsten Gillibrand after a news conference on the repeal
> >>> of �don�t ask, don�t tell.�
>
> >>> By a vote of 65 to 31, with eight Republicans joining Democrats, the
> >>> Senate approved and sent to President Obama a repeal of the
> >>> Clinton-era law, known as �don�t ask, don�t tell,� a policy critics
> >>> said amounted to government-sanctioned discrimination that treated
> >>> gay, lesbian and bisexual troops as second-class citizens.
>
> >>> Mr. Obama hailed the action, which fulfills his pledge to reverse the
> >>> ban, and said it was �time to close this chapter in our history.�
>
> >>> �As commander in chief, I am also absolutely convinced that making
> >>> this change will only underscore the professionalism of our troops as
> >>> the best-led and best-trained fighting force the world has ever
> >>> known,� he said in a statement after the Senate, on a preliminary
> >>> 63-to-33 vote, beat back Republican efforts to block final action on
> >>> the repeal bill.
>
> >>> The vote marked a historic moment that some equated with the end of
> >>> racial segregation in the military.
>
> >>> It followed an exhaustive Pentagon review that determined the policy
> >>> could be changed with only isolated disruptions to unit cohesion and
> >>> retention, though members of combat units and the Marine Corps
> >>> expressed greater reservations about the shift. Congressional action
> >>> was backed by Pentagon officials as a better alternative to a
> >>> court-ordered end.
>
> >>> Supporters of the repeal said it was long past time to abolish what
> >>> they saw as an ill-advised practice that cost valuable personnel and
> >>> forced troops to lie to serve their country.
>
> >>> �We righted a wrong,� said Senator Joseph I. Lieberman, the
> >>> independent from Connecticut and a leader of the effort to end the
> >>> ban. �Today we�ve done justice.�
>
> >>> Before voting on the repeal, the Senate blocked a bill that would have
> >>> created a path to citizenship for certain illegal immigrants who came
> >>> to the United States at a young age, completed two years of college or
> >>> military service and met other requirements including passing a
> >>> criminal background check.
>
> >>> The 55-to-41 vote in favor of the citizenship bill was five votes
> >>> short of the number needed to clear the way for final passage of what
> >>> is known as the Dream Act.
>
> >>> The outcome effectively kills it for this year, and its fate beyond
> >>> that is uncertain since Republicans who will assume control of the
> >>> House in January oppose the measure and are unlikely to bring it to a
> >>> vote.
>
> >>> The Senate then moved on to the military legislation, engaging in an
> >>> emotional back and forth over the merits of the measure as advocates
> >>> for repeal watched from galleries crowded with people interested in
> >>> the fate of both the military and immigration measures.
>
> >>> �I don�t care who you love,� Senator Ron Wyden, Democrat of Oregon,
> >>> said as the debate opened. �If you love this country enough to risk
> >>> your life for it, you shouldn�t have to hide who you are.�
>
> >>> Mr. Wyden showed up for the Senate vote despite saying earlier that he
> >>> would be unable to do so because he would be undergoing final tests
> >>> before his scheduled surgery for prostate cancer on Monday.
>
> >>> The vote came in the final days of the 111th Congress as Democrats
> >>> sought to force through a final few priorities before they turn over
> >>> control of the House of Representatives to the Republicans in January
> >>> and see their clout in the Senate diminished.
>
> >>> It represented a significant victory for the White House,
> >>> Congressional advocates of lifting the ban and activists who have
> >>> pushed for years to end the Pentagon policy created in 1993 under the
> >>> Clinton administration as a compromise effort to end the practice of
> >>> barring gay men and lesbians entirely from military service.
>
> >>> Saying it represented an emotional moment for members of the gay
> >>> community nationwide, advocates who supported repeal of �don�t ask,
> >>> don�t tell� exchanged hugs outside the Senate chamber after the vote.
>
> >>> �Today�s vote means gay and lesbian service members posted all around
> >>> the world can stand taller knowing that �don�t ask, don�t tell� will
> >>> soon be coming to an end,� said Aubrey Sarvis, an Army veteran and
> >>> executive director for Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.
>
> >>> Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona and his party�s
> >>> presidential candidate in 2008, led the opposition to the repeal and
> >>> said the vote was a sad day in history.
>
> >>> �I hope that when we pass this legislation that we will understand
> >>> that we are doing great damage,� Mr. McCain said. �And we could
> >>> possibly and probably, as the commandant of the Marine Corps said, and
> >>> as I have been told by literally thousands of members of the military,
> >>> harm the battle effectiveness vital to the survival of our young men
> >>> and women in the military.�
>
> >>> He and others opposed to lifting the ban said the change could harm
> >>> the unit cohesion that is essential to effective military operations,
> >>> particularly in combat, and deter some Americans from enlisting or
> >>> pursuing a career in the military. They noted that despite support for
> >>> repealing the ban from Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates and Adm. Mike
> >>> Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other military
> >>> commanders have warned that changing the practice would prove
> >>> disruptive.
>
> >>> �This isn�t broke,� Senator James M. Inhofe, Republican of Oklahoma,
> >>> said about the policy. �It is working very well.�
>
> >>> Other Republicans said that while the policy might need to be changed
> >>> at some point, Congress should not do so when American troops are
> >>> fighting overseas.
>
> >>> Only a week ago, the effort to repeal the �don�t ask, don�t tell�
> >>> policy seemed to be dead and in danger of fading for at least two
> >>> years with Republicans about to take control of the House. The
> >>> provision eliminating the ban was initially included in a broader
> >>> Pentagon policy bill, and Republican backers of repeal had refused to
> >>> join in cutting off a filibuster against the underlying bill because
> >>> of objections over limits on debate of the measure.
>
> >>> In a last-ditch effort, Mr. Lieberman and Senator Susan Collins of
> >>> Maine, a key Republican opponent of the ban, encouraged Democratic
> >>> Congressional leaders to instead pursue a vote on simply repealing it.
> >>> The House passed the measure earlier in the week.
>
> >>> The repeal will not take effect for at least 60 days, and probably
> >>> longer, while some other procedural steps are taken. In addition, the
> >>> bill requires the defense secretary to determine that policies are in
> >>> place to carry out the repeal �consistent with military standards for
> >>> readiness, effectiveness, unit cohesion, and recruiting and
> >>> retention.�
>
> >>> Multimedia
> >>> Interactive Graphic
> >>> How the Senate Voted
>
> >>> Timeline
> >>> Congressional Action on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"
>
> >>> Blogs
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> >>> The latest on President Obama, the new Congress and other news from
> >>> Washington and around the nation. Join the discussion.
>
> >>> FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus
> >>> More Politics News
> >>> �It is going to take some time,� Ms. Collins said. �It is not going to
>
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