Assalam o Alaikum Wr Wb.
This is very nice debate going on. Seems to be life in young blood yet again.. I want to ask one more thing, how many of us have the flexibility to transform the debates into practical happenings?.... Yes our bloody silence is the major reason of our problems today,
But its not this much simple. People haven't been silent for long.. They have been raising slogans in the past , some time for Nawaz Sharif, and other time Benazir, Here came the " Musharraf"and people offered prayers of thanks.........
What i feel is " its never important or worthwhile to raise your voice, Important is " for what and why you are raising the voice"..?
Is it for change of faces at govt:level, or it for the revolution, which will never allow any one to "rob " us as brother kashif pointed.....
The main problem isn't the silence, because you see suddenly something happens and people are on the roads, the asking of the situation is " transformation of voice for something of real impact"..
I am seeing some people these days have started promoting Musharraf again,,,,,, you people tell me something...... what the hell is to happen of such people?.
We have to look for the system,,,,, and don't expect that people are going to bring system,, NO.. System is always implemented and then people are made to follow it, then if any one found guilty, is thrown out..
as in example.
Those who are familiar with business practices, they will admit that , employees are never asked/expected to bring the system, its the duty of Management to do this, then convince people about the outcomes of new system, People starts following it, and those who don't are fire out..
Pakistan is just like a corrupted organization, now some one has to take over by force and implement the new system and also to hang the cruel in front of people so that no body ever again even think of doing something wrong... The society where hands are to be cut of thieves have least amount of crimes. Derive the system, Implement it by force and they sleep with peace ......Other wise , its trouble all the way till death.
I don't expect /hope any change if it is democracy,,,,, its the type of govt which is " off"the people, "bye"the people and "far"the people....
We have to break this "bloody silence" but also we have to make it sure that our voices are not being used for something "bloody non-sense:.
"Difference of Opinion is always accepted and respected"
Thanks
Best Regards
Shujah Qureshi
--- On Mon, 12/27/10, I Am BazMi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: I Am BazMi <soul_of_bazm@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: **JP** Low cost electricity petition rejected by Lahore High cour.
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:53 PM
kashif Iqbal brother ...agreed.... ///Be happy forever\\\
\\Your face Can Spread Many Many Happier Momoents//
=Don't Ever Tell A Lie=
Regards
BazMi
From: kashif iqbal <macter.kashif@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 26, 2010 10:11:56 AM
Subject: Re: **JP** Low cost electricity petition rejected by Lahore High cour.
AOA Dr Danish, i would agree with you, that after paying a lot to all these personals why should we be a protesters? why should we waste our energy n our resources n our precious time for all this bull shit, why? But tell me brother, is there any one who has given you all those rights which you deserve after paying so much? are you getting proper security of your future? are you getting proper security of your business? are you getting proper security of your kids? are you getting the proper food for your kids? did you even sleep in peace having no worries for next coming day? these are a few questions whom answers are probably "no". and i have a list of our rights against what we pay in different shapes.and i know most of us are not getting their basic rights. So when the answer is no, then this is a result of our silence, the bloody criminal silence of our own, this silence has given these "looters" the right to "rob" us, this bloody, cruel, criminal silence, choice is yours my dear respectful brother. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Danish Khan <danish.a.khan@gsk.com> wrote: Agar hamey hi maidan ma aana hai to why don't we let the whole govt. mechanism out of Pakistan coz if they are unable to do anything and the court too and the milatery and the security agencies too if they cannot do anything then why should we pay taxes to bare their burdon? Shouldn't we stop this all bull shit someone says ppp or pmln,q,f or mqm of blablabla.. If we are suppose to come out for our right then what the hell they will do for us(Receive tax and enjoy life abroad?) no we must not protest or else we should rooted out the whole plant which is fruitless yet ****************************************************************************************** CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. It is solely intended for the person(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient, any reading, use, disclosure, copying or distribution of all or parts of this e-mail or associated attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not an intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message or by telephone and delete this e-mail and any attachments permanently from your system. If you forward any correspondence, as a courtesy, please delete the forwarding history - which includes all email addresses - from the body of the mail. Erasing the history also helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated. ALWAYS forward a mail using BCC, so that the recipients' email addresses are protected. Ham Dandey wali Qom hen....apni history per nazar dalen to hamen nazar ajey ga ham kin k sath seedehy rahey hen.... hamen bolna bohot ata hey ... but karna kuch nahin ata... ham proud show to kar saktey hen...but proudly ho nahin saktey ...
ham ne ab tak apni zaban , apney libas ye choti choti chezen hen in ko kitna farogh de dya???
hamen to protest bhi nahin karna ata .... apni hi amlak ka nuqsan kartey hen ..or samjhtey hen gov ko sabaq sikha rahey hen ..arey bhai agar kisi ghareeb ki dukan jalti hey ya rikshaw jalta hey , ya ghareeb kam per nahin ja sakta hey jo k daily veges p kam kar raha hota hey k kam karega to paisey aingey paisey hongey to roti miley gi... to bhai gov ka kahan se nuqsan ho gaya ...us ne to ghareeb ko or ghareeb tar kar dya na ...or phir jab kam k lye kaha jata hey to ...agey se jawab milta hey ..''ham apna ghar chalain k pakistan k lye sochen'' ...halan k aisa nahin hey... jab tak ham medan main nahin ajatey koi problem nahin solve hone wali...
hamen ab to hosh k nakhun lena chahye ...pakistan ki tareekh ham hi badal saktey hen...
need a revolution....us k lye hamen ek hona hoga... jab k ham ek hen bas sirf yad dahani ki zarorat he.... ///Be happy forever\\\
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Regards
From: sumbel ijaz <university.lhr@gmail.com>
To: joinpakistan@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wed, December 22, 2010 9:57:25 PM
Subject: Re: **JP** Low cost electricity petition rejected by Lahore High cour.
All you have said is true n bitter.. per mind you brother, when pakistanis come into action they do whatever has been the target even if that is hardest most. the recent examples in front of all of us are: Prevention of terrorism in Muharram Also , we see in the sports in the education and everywhere we can go beyond even every nation of this very world. The point is to raise our voice you said very truly that HM LOG BILKUL B SHARAM NAE KHATEY HAIN ELAN KRTEY HOEY B, nonethe we all know that Allah has declared the RISHWAT haram in our sacred religion... On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:18 PM, kashif iqbal <macter.kashif@gmail.com> wrote: Subah se sham tuk roti k chaker main phency ye qoum kiya protest kray ge. And i am sorry to say when every one have two options, every one goes for a easy to do one, thats why curruption is not only getting uncontrolled but its increasing day by day. this is just such a stupid nation, which knows curruption is bad, even "HARRAM" but every one is indulged. (Proudly every one anounces " mera wo kaam atka hoa tha, falaney ko itney paisey diye, aur kaam ho gya.) thats all. But thats not all, we all are paying the price of our own actions. "best soil we have which produce best wheat, rice, cotton, and every thing. "best soil we have which produce best fruits. "best soil we have which have every minerals, gold mines, copper mines, coal mines, Seas of Oil down here, and best water distribution system. and still we have nothing. On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 4:03 PM, sumbel ijaz <university.lhr@gmail.com> wrote: we should protest against it... we should raise our voice. --
Sumbel Ijaz
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