security. People have paid for that for 40 years or so to the point
that it really is not a government benefit but insurance annuities.
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SS has NEVER been a benefit. Its a money grab where it is guaranteed
you will never get back what you put in - and its still losing money!
Jesus H., you got a guaranteed positive cash cow, and its going
bankrupt. Only the government can figure out how to do that. Its
friggin amazing!
On Nov 18, 1:02 pm, dick thompson <rhomp2...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> The people you are penalizing are the ones who pay market rents to
> landlords who then pay the same taxes as you pay. Indirectly those
> renters are paying just as you are but you are taking away their
> representation. Not good. If you do something about penalizing those
> who use government assistance just to pay rent and exist, then maybe you
> have a point. Then you need to decide what you consider social
> security. People have paid for that for 40 years or so to the point
> that it really is not a government benefit but insurance annuities.
> How do you deal with these issues.
>
> On 11/18/2010 12:49 PM, Keith In Tampa wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey Greg,
> > No, they are not, but "DaBabyMama" who has five kids and is a
> > continuous breeder solely for the purpose of generating revenue count
> > the same as my vote. This is the predominant make-up of the
> > Gerrymandered Congressional District where Charlie Rangel depends upon
> > for his support.
> > Even using your example, a college student who is dependent upon Pell
> > Grants and generates nothing in the way of tax dollar revenue; his
> > vote counts the same as mine.
> > I just think that it is an interesting concept of voting, and why
> > votes should count the same. Maybe the college student should deserve
> > a vote, but then, why shouldn't my vote be counted a bit more? Why
> > not give "DaBabyMama" a single vote, the college kid two votes, and
> > give taxpaying citizens who also pay property taxes ten votes?
> > Why is there such a push by these far left extremist groups, to
> > register voters, and it has been well documented that they have
> > registered illegal aliens who should not have a vote, as well as
> > fictional individuals, or folks like DaBabyMama who have registered
> > numerous times under fictitious addresses?
> > Just some general thoughts is all.....
>
> > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, GregfromBoston
> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>
> > Why should my vote, as a taxpayer, be
> > of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or
> > state
> > subsistence?
> > ---------------------------
>
> > Well ya didn't say that. Thats more interesting, but still a rather
> > major problem.
>
> > People who live in apartments and students (at least the males of whom
> > are REQUIRED to register for selective service) are not, "totally
> > dependent upon federal or state subsistence"
>
> > On Nov 18, 12:16 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > I agree that it will never happen, and I am not exactly serious
> > when I even
> > > suggest such a notion.
>
> > > I only throw the thought out there. Why should my vote, as a
> > taxpayer, be
> > > of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon
> > federal or state
> > > subsistence?
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, GregfromBoston
> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>>wrote:
>
> > > > I can't go along with that man. You can't vote because you
> > live in an
> > > > apartment or are a full time student?
>
> > > > Not a chance in hell, ever.
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 11:23 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com
> > <mailto:keithinta...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > This is what happens, when we continue to allow for
> > Gerrymandered
> > > > > districts.
>
> > > > > This is but one more reason to reconsider allowing only
> > taxpaying
> > > > > individuals who are property owners the right to vote.
>
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, GregfromBoston
> > <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com <mailto:greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > Agreed. But censure trumps reprimand, and reprimand trumps,
> > > > > > "deploring".
>
> > > > > > What is less than meaningless?
>
> > > > > > We're about to find out.
>
> > > > > > Censure didn't effect Barny Frank or Gerry Studds an inch
> > (ooh, bad
> > > > > > pun), but hey, this is Massachusetts.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 18, 10:54 am, MJ <micha...@america.net
> > <mailto:micha...@america.net>> wrote:
> > > > > > > Censure is largely meaningless -- the type of chiding
> > > > > > > he will likely receive.
>
> > > > > > > At 09:33 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >Barney Frank was censured for a single violation
> > (granted, it was a
> > > > > > > >doozy). Shouldn't 11 warrant a reprimand?
>
> > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 8:41 am, MJ <micha...@america.net
> > <mailto:micha...@america.net>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > He will likely escape much of anything (do not want
> > additional
> > > > > > > > > precedents). He will, however, be the Republican
> > whipping boy
> > > > for at
> > > > > > > > > least the next two years. Gots to emphasize
> > something as a
> > > > > > difference.
>
> > > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > > --MJ
>
> > > > > > > > > ... where corruption and public crimes are not
> > carefully opposed,
> > > > > > > > > and severely punished, neither liberty nor security
> > can possibly
> > > > > > > > > subsist. -- Cato's Letters (1721)
>
> > > > > > > > > At 08:32 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >Reprimand is doubtful, Public statement "deploring
> > his conduct"
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > >the likely "penalty"
>
> > > > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 7:41 am, Cold Water
> > <coldwater...@gmail.com <mailto:coldwater...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Charlie learns his fate today. Bela Pelosi has
> > done such a
> > > > > > > > > > wonderful job of "draining the swamp".
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Rangel will be reprimanded and then go on
> > "business as
> > > > usual".
> > > > > > Sad.
>
> > >http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-charles-rangel-faces-sanctions-eth.
> > > > ..
>
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