Re: Rep. Charles Rangel Faces Sanctions After Ethics Convictions - ABC News

General thoughts worthy of debate sir! Just 2 things for now:

1. Pell grants are founded on ROI. Kid gets an education, makes more
money, pays more in taxes, and in his life time, will pay FAR more to
the fed than they gave him. I know its hard to believe, but some
gubmint programs make sense!

2. One man, one vote is a bedrock principle that will never change,
nor should it. You use property ownership as a weight for a vote, and
before you know it, Microsoft and GE not only get to vote, but control
elections. Kelo v New London's ultimate nightmare.

On Nov 18, 12:49 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Greg,
>
> No, they are not, but "DaBabyMama"  who has five kids and is a continuous
> breeder solely for the purpose of generating revenue count the same as my
> vote.  This is the predominant make-up of the Gerrymandered Congressional
> District where Charlie Rangel depends upon for his support.
>
> Even using your example, a college student who is dependent upon Pell Grants
> and generates nothing in the way of tax dollar revenue; his vote counts the
> same as mine.
>
> I just think that it is an interesting concept of voting, and why
> votes should count the same.  Maybe the college student should deserve a
> vote, but then, why shouldn't my vote be counted a bit more?  Why not give
> "DaBabyMama"  a single vote, the college kid two votes, and give
> taxpaying citizens who also pay property taxes ten votes?
>
> Why is there such a push by these far left extremist groups, to register
> voters, and it has been well documented that they have registered illegal
> aliens who should not have a vote, as well as fictional individuals, or
> folks like DaBabyMama  who have registered numerous times under fictitious
> addresses?
>
> Just some general thoughts is all.....
>
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:29 PM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > Why should my vote, as a taxpayer, be
> > of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or
> > state
> > subsistence?
> > ---------------------------
>
> > Well ya didn't say that.  Thats more interesting, but still a rather
> > major problem.
>
> > People who live in apartments and students (at least the males of whom
> > are  REQUIRED to register for selective service) are not, "totally
> > dependent upon federal or state subsistence"
>
> > On Nov 18, 12:16 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I agree that it will never happen, and I am not exactly serious when I
> > even
> > > suggest such a notion.
>
> > > I only throw the thought out there.   Why should my vote, as a taxpayer,
> > be
> > > of the same value as someone who is totally dependent upon federal or
> > state
> > > subsistence?
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > I can't go along with that man.  You can't vote because you live in an
> > > > apartment or are a full time student?
>
> > > > Not a chance in hell, ever.
>
> > > > On Nov 18, 11:23 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > This is what happens, when we continue to allow for Gerrymandered
> > > > > districts.
>
> > > > > This is but one more reason to reconsider allowing only taxpaying
> > > > > individuals who are property owners the right to vote.
>
> > > > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 11:00 AM, GregfromBoston <
> > greg.vinc...@yahoo.com
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > Agreed.  But censure trumps reprimand, and reprimand trumps,
> > > > > > "deploring".
>
> > > > > > What is less than meaningless?
>
> > > > > > We're about to find out.
>
> > > > > > Censure didn't effect Barny Frank or Gerry Studds an inch (ooh, bad
> > > > > > pun), but hey, this is Massachusetts.
>
> > > > > > On Nov 18, 10:54 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > Censure is largely meaningless -- the type of chiding
> > > > > > > he will likely receive.
>
> > > > > > > At 09:33 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > > > >Barney Frank was censured for a single violation (granted, it
> > was a
> > > > > > > >doozy).  Shouldn't 11 warrant a reprimand?
>
> > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 8:41 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > He will likely escape much of anything (do not want
> > additional
> > > > > > > > > precedents).  He will, however, be the Republican whipping
> > boy
> > > > for at
> > > > > > > > > least the next two years.  Gots to emphasize something as a
> > > > > > difference.
>
> > > > > > > > > Regard$,
> > > > > > > > > --MJ
>
> > > > > > > > > ... where corruption and public crimes are not carefully
> > opposed,
> > > > > > > > > and severely punished, neither liberty nor security can
> > possibly
> > > > > > > > > subsist. -- Cato's Letters (1721)
>
> > > > > > > > > At 08:32 AM 11/18/2010, you wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > >Reprimand is doubtful,  Public statement "deploring his
> > conduct"
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > > >the likely "penalty"
>
> > > > > > > > > >On Nov 18, 7:41 am, Cold Water <coldwater...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > Charlie learns his fate today.  Bela Pelosi has done such
> > a
> > > > > > > > > > wonderful job of "draining the swamp".
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Rangel will be reprimanded and then go on "business as
> > > > usual".
> > > > > >  Sad.
>
> >http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rep-charles-rangel-faces-sanctions-eth.
> > > > ..
>
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