Waters is right on,
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yeah ... so is Bono, the Chicks, and Ted Nugent.
Listening to them talk politics is not why we buy their tickets.
despite Plain Ol's
naivete's on Islam!
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blaming the muzzies for this killing is lame
On May 22, 2:50 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <Grin>! You're an ass Plain Ol!
>
> Good thoughtful post Michael. Waters is right on, despite Plain Ol's
> naivete's on Islam! (And I say that with all due respect Plain Ol!)
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 8:03 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
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>
> > At one point, Waters paused his set and began telling the audience
> > about
> > Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year old Brazilian national who was shot
> > *8-times* by British police several years ago
> > ---
> > just sing, monkey!
>
> > On May 22, 12:57 pm, "MJ" <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > ""If we stand at the top of the slope and give our governments, and
> > > particularly our police, too much power, it's a very long and dangerous
> > > slippery slope to the bottom," Waters said.
> > > "The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval.
> > > "It certainly gives one hope that the message is sinking in; most folks,
> > it
> > > seems, have a conceptual understanding that governments are corrupt and
> > > abusive… but at the end of the day, they'll still fall in line behind the
> > > political system."
>
> > > How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
> > > By Simon Black
> > > May 21, 2012
> > > Los Angeles, USA
>
> > > I had the privilege of seeing Roger Waters perform 'The Wall' to a live
> > > crowd of over 40,000 fans at the LA Coliseum on Saturday night– the
> > second
> > > time I've seen the show on this tour.
>
> > > It was an amazing production– I wholeheartedly recommend the experience
> > as
> > > it's something that no DVD or album recording could possibly reproduce.
>
> > > At one point, Waters paused his set and began telling the audience about
> > > Jean Charles de Menezes, a 27-year old Brazilian national who was shot
> > > *8-times* by British police several years ago at a south London tube
> > station
> > > after being mistakenly identified as a terrorist.
>
> > > The police, adhering to the 'shoot first, ask questions later' model of
> > > peace enforcement, have never been held accountable for taking the life
> > of
> > > an innocent man at point blank range.
>
> > > "If we stand at the top of the slope and give our governments, and
> > > particularly our police, too much power, it's a very long and dangerous
> > > slippery slope to the bottom," Waters said.
>
> > >http://vimeo.com/42561312
>
> > > The crowd went berserk, roaring with approval.
>
> > > It certainly gives one hope that the message is sinking in; most folks,
> > it
> > > seems, have a conceptual understanding that governments are corrupt and
> > > abusive… but at the end of the day, they'll still fall in line behind the
> > > political system.
>
> > > An entire lifetime of programming, starting practically at birth,
> > reinforces
> > > that government and police are the 'good guys'. It's a difficult
> > inclination
> > > to break.
>
> > > The stories that we all hear on an almost daily basis about corruption
> > and
> > > abuse of power are appalling indeed. But most people think that they're
> > just
> > > aberrations in an otherwise good system… and that it's just not going to
> > > happen to them.
>
> > > Until it does.
>
> > > George Reby is a great example. The New Jersey resident was driving on
> > I-40
> > > in Tennessee when he was stopped for speeding. The officer then asked
> > him if
> > > he was carrying large amounts of cash.
>
> > > Reby said that he had about $20,000, upon which the officer asked if he
> > > could search the vehicle.
>
> > > Reby consented, saying later, "I certainly didn't feel like I was doing
> > > anything wrong…"
>
> > > You can probably tell where this is going… the officer promptly
> > confiscated
> > > the cash, claiming that it might be used for drug trafficking. Reby
> > > explained that he was on his way to buy a car he'd found on eBay (and
> > even
> > > showed him the eBay ad), and showed that the source of funds were
> > legitimate
>
> > > It didn't matter. He had his money stolen in the most insidious way…by a
> > > thuggish, criminal agent of the government (who was sporting a rather
> > > menacing neck tattoo).
>
> > > At least a real criminal knows what he's doing is wrong; he knows that
> > he's
> > > committing an immoral act by shooting or robbing someone. The police, on
> > the
> > > other hand, think their actions are legitimate, that they're just 'doing
> > > their job.'
>
> > > This is intellectually dishonest and morally reprehensible. Everyone
> > > involved, including the officer himself, agreed that Reby committed no
> > > crime… that it's perfectly legal to carry cash.
>
> > > Yet citizens like Reby are routinely relieved of their hard-earned
> > savings,
> > > and then have to spend thousands of dollars fighting to get it back.
>
> > > As it turns out, police have a huge incentive to steal; they get a
> > healthy
> > > cut of the proceeds from any asset seizure, and the funds go to pay for
> > new
> > > toys like those whiz bang Camaro hot rod police cruisers.
>
> > > You can check out Reby's disgraceful story here:
>
> > >http://youtu.be/TSIrfP81-ms
>
> > > It goes to show that this idea of "I've done nothing wrong, I've got
> > nothing
> > > to hide, so I have nothing to fear…" is completely bogus.
>
> > > People who are completely innocent of any wrongdoing can still have their
> > > lives turned upside down by a corrupt government that has an incentive to
> > > plunder its citizens.
>
> > > Yet every time we turn around, they've managed to award themselves more
> > > power, more authority.
>
> > > From the NDAA which authorizes the military detention of US citizens on
> > US
> > > soil, to President Obama's executive order authorizing government
> > > confiscation of practically everything, to the UK's new plan to monitor
> > all
> > > mobile, phone, email, and text messages going in, out, or through the
> > > country.
>
> > > From Rome to the Ottoman Empire, history is full of examples of failing,
> > > insolvent governments that resort to similar tactics of desperately
> > > pillaging the wealth and freedoms of their citizens. The conclusions we
> > can
> > > draw from this are simple:
>
> > > 1) The trend for failing states is to grant themselves more power.
> > > 1) Power, once granted, is almost impossible to take back.
> > > 2) More power means more abuse of power.
> > > 3) It can (and does) happen to anyone.
>
> > > Putting any faith in an insolvent government to do the right thing is
> > > absurd… and it behooves everyone to safeguard important assets and
> > interests
> > > by diversifying internationally.
>
> > >http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/how-can-you-have-any-pudding-if-you...
>
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