was
founded on Christian Principals .....NOT Christian religion.
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ok
A Pagan can
have "Christian Principals" as well as a member of most of the world
religions....
To argue this point Plainol makes you look the fool.
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to use it as justification to discriminate against gays or atheists is
being a fool
On Feb 29, 4:52 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> At the end of the day and all these posts I stand firmly that the USA was
> founded on Christian Principals.....NOT Christian religion. A Pagan can
> have "Christian Principals" as well as a member of most of the world
> religions....
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> To argue this point Plainol makes you look the fool.
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> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 11:34 AM, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com
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> > wrote:
> > Huh?
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> > Christianity supports the Divine Rights of Kings -- you know, King
> > George et al -- rather than Natural Rights as noted in the Declaration
> > of Independence
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> > more proof that religion is not something we want in our government
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> > have you noticed how xians get all excited when the see british
> > royalty?
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> > On Feb 29, 10:02 am, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > At 10:43 AM 2/29/2012, you wrote:rather than Natural Rights as noted in
> > the Declaration of Independence
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> > > oops!
> > > Huh?WHEN in the Course of human Events it becomes necessary for one
> > People to dissolve the Political Bands which have connected them with
> > another, and to assume among the Powers of the Earth the separate & equal
> > Station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a
> > decent Respect to the Opinions of Mankind requires that they should declare
> > the causes which impel them to the Separation.WE hold these Truths to be
> > self-evident: that all Men are created equal; that they are endowed by
> > their creator withinherent and* [certain]* inalienable rights; that among
> > these are life, liberty, & the pursuit of happiness: that to secure these
> > rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers
> > from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government
> > becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter
> > or abolish it, & to institute new government, laying it's foundation on
> > such principles, & organizing it's powers in such form, as to them shall
> > seem most likely to effect their safety & happiness. Prudence indeed will
> > dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light &
> > transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind
> > are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable, than to right
> > themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a
> > long train of abuses & usurpationsbegun at a distinguished period
> > andpursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them
> > under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off
> > such government, & to provide new guards for their future security. Such
> > has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; & such is now the
> > necessity which constrains them toexpunge[alter] their former systems of
> > government. The history of the present king of Great Britain is a history
> > ofunremitting[repeated] injuries & usurpations,among which appears no
> > solitary fact to contradict the uniform tenor of the rest but all have[all
> > having]in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these
> > states. To prove this let facts be submitted to a candid worldfor the truth
> > of which we pledge a faith yet unsullied by falsehood.Legitimate Government
> > secures (natural) rights.
> > > This is quite different from Divine Rights of Kings ...Romans 13:1-2
> > clearly forbids rebellion against the established authorities and was,
> > moreover, written about the pagan government of the Roman Empire, which
> > actively persecuted Christians: "Every person must submit to the supreme
> > authorities.There is no authority but by act of God,and
> > theexistingauthorities are instituted by him; consequently, anyone who
> > rebels against authority is resisting a divine institution, and those who
> > so resist have themselves to thank for the punishment they will receive."
> > George III, it should be noted, was a Christian monarch; if Paul commanded
> > obedience by Christians to the pagan and tyrannical Roman emperors, surely
> > he would have demanded equal obedience by Christians to the avowedly
> > Christian (and far less cruel or oppressive) British king and
> > parliament.Regard$,
> > > --MJ
> > > From all which it is evident, that though the things of Nature are given
> > in common, man (by being master of himself, and proprietor of his own
> > person, and the actions or labour of it) had still in himself the great
> > foundation of property; and that which made up the great part of what he
> > applied to the support or comfort of his being, when invention and arts had
> > improved the conveniences of life, was perfectly his own, and did not
> > belong in common to others. -- John Locke
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