I listed facts and logic that emanated from the trial and you say false. If that is true then your claim is also "False".
You have, by calling the trial facts "false", just called yourself a "liar".
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Mark M. Kahle H.
-- On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
False.
On Mar 16, 12:26 pm, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> First, I agree with Plainol on this one....mark those calendars.
>
> Next let me say that this was a shared room with (in my view and in my
> experience) no expectation of privacy. It was not a stranger that
> videoed the infamous act that was so shameful it lead to suicide, but
> someone with every right to do in that room that which he pleased and
> I am sure that this will be mentioned on appeal and accepted.
>
> Mr. Clementi invited his special friend back to the room KNOWING that
> he was being monitored... so much for fear and "bullying". He could
> have simply moved as he requested and then refused. Sounds more like
> he was "bullying" himself and looking for a reason to off himself.
>
> If you don't like yourself and what you are doing how can you possibly
> expect, or in the case of the gay community and Tommytomtom, demand
> that others do? Its just all so much bullshit.
>
> On Mar 16, 10:33 am, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > wow, record this date .. someone other than a white person found
> > guilty of a hate crime
>
> > On Mar 16, 11:08 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dharun Ravi Found Guilty of Invasion of Privacy, Bias Intimidation in
> > > Suicide of Tyler Clementi
>
> > > Defendant Guilty in Rutgers Case
>
> > > Matt Rainey for The New York Times
> > > Dharun Ravi, center, and his lawyers, Philip Nettl, left, and Steven
> > > Altman at Superior Court in Middlesex County, N.J., on Friday.
>
> > > By KATE ZERNIKE
> > > Published: March 16, 2012
>
> > > NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. —A jury convicted a former Rutgers University
> > > student, Dharun Ravi, of hate crimes for using a webcam to spy on his
> > > roommate kissing another man in their dorm room.
>
> > > Follow us on Twitter and like us on Facebook for news and conversation.
> > > The jury also found Mr. Ravi guilty of tampering with evidence and
> > > witnesses for trying to change Twitter and text messages in which he
> > > had encouraged others to watch the webcam.
>
> > > Mr. Ravi's roommate, Tyler Clementi, jumped to his death from the
> > > George Washington Bridge three days after Mr. Ravi viewed him on the
> > > webcam. The case became a symbol of the struggles facing gay, lesbian
> > > and bisexual teenagers and the problem of cyberbullying in an era when
> > > laws governing hate crimes have not kept up with evolving technology.
>
> > > Mr. Ravi looked down but did not seem to react as the jury forewoman
> > > read the verdict. Mr. Clementi's parents and family sat with arms
> > > around each other, leaning forward as they listened to the forewoman
> > > speak.
>
> > > Mr. Ravi, 20, was not charged in Mr. Clementi's death. .
>
> > > The jury of seven women and five men deliberated for about two days,
> > > following more than three weeks of testimony.
>
> > > The case was rare because almost none of the facts were in dispute.
> > > Mr. Ravi's lawyers agreed that he had set up a webcam on his computer,
> > > then gone into a friend's room and viewed Mr. Clementi kissing a man
> > > he had invited to his room three weeks after arriving at Rutgers in
> > > September 2010. Mr. Ravi sent Twitter and text messages telling others
> > > what he had seen, and urged them to watch a second viewing, then
> > > deleted messages after Mr. Clementi killed himself.
>
> > > That account had been established by a long trail of electronic
> > > evidence — from Twitter feeds and cellphone records, dormitory
> > > surveillance cameras, dining hall swipe cards and a "netflow" analysis
> > > showing when and how computers in the dormitory connected.
>
> > > What the jury had to decide, and what set off debate outside as well
> > > as inside the courtroom, was what Mr. Ravi and Mr. Clementi were
> > > thinking at the time.
>
> > > Did Mr. Ravi set up the webcam because he had a pretty good idea that
> > > he would see Mr. Clementi in an intimate moment? Did he target Mr.
> > > Clementi and the man he was with because they were gay? And was Mr.
> > > Clementi in fear?
>
> > > Without Mr. Clementi to speak for himself, that last question was
> > > perhaps the most difficult to determine, and questions the jurors sent
> > > from their deliberation room suggested they struggled with it.
>
> > > The prosecution had pointed out that Mr. Clementi had checked Mr.
> > > Ravi's Twitter feed — where Mr. Ravi told others he had seen his
> > > roommate "kissing a dude" — 38 times in the days after the first
> > > webcam viewing. Records showed that Mr. Clementi had gone online to
> > > request a room change, and a resident assistant testified that Mr.
> > > Clementi had complained to him.
>
> > > But the defense argued that if Mr. Clementi had felt intimidated, he
> > > would have accepted when the resident assistant offered him another
> > > place to stay, and he would not have invited his boyfriend back to the
> > > room.
>
> > > Mr. Clementi's suicide came up only in passing during the trial, when
> > > a lawyer asked the boyfriend how he had learned of Mr. Clementi's
> > > death. The man, who testified under tight cover and was identified in
> > > court only as M.B. because he was considered a victim in the case,
> > > testified that he had read about it in a newspaper, as the suicide
> > > prompted international attention.
>
> > > Still, the death defined the trial, turning what might have been a
> > > peeping Tom case or, as the resident assistant said, "a roommate
> > > issue" into something far more grave.
>
> > > Mr. Clementi's parents, brothers and a huddle of friends sat on one
> > > side of the courtroom. On the other sat Mr. Ravi's parents, who
> > > brought him here from India when he was young, and their friends,
> > > including several who had served as character witnesses for Mr. Ravi,
> > > testifying he was not biased against gays.
>
> > > The testimony painted a picture of two college freshman, both from top
> > > performing high schools in well-off suburbs, who could not have been
> > > more different. Mr. Clementi was shy and reserved, an accomplished
> > > violinist who had only recently told his parents he was gay. Mr. Ravi
> > > was a boastful computer wizard and ultimate Frisbee player who
> > > communicated with friends constantly via Twitter, text message and
> > > iChat.
>
> > > Mr. Ravi's lawyers argued that he was "a kid" with little experience
> > > of homosexuality who had stumbled into a situation that scared him.
> > > M.B., who was 30 at the time, had made him nervous, the lawyers
> > > argued, so he set up his webcam to keep an eye on his belongings. Mr.
> > > Ravi, they argued, was being sarcastic when he had sent messages
> > > daring friends to connect to his webcam, or declaring that he was
> > > having a "viewing party."
>
> > > But prosecutors argued that his frequent messages mentioning Mr.
> > > Clementi's sexuality proved that Mr. Ravi was upset about having a gay
> > > roommate from the minute he discovered it through a computer search
> > > several weeks before they arrived at Rutgers in fall 2010.
>
> > > More:http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/nyregion/defendant-guilty-in-rutger...
>
> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy
>
> > > --
> > > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > > Have a great day,
> > > Tommy- Hide quoted text -
>
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