politicians is widespread
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Ya think?
Yet I keep hearing its the right who march in lockstep with the
Zionists.
Oooops!
I saw this on day 1, when Rahm Emanuel was named COS.
There's a reason Wiki deleted Rahm's dad, and steered to Rahm.
And I support the POTUS on this one.
On Sep 22, 12:31 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Who just stood in front of the UN and said the US will veto any bid
> for Palestinian statehood?
> ---
> On May 19, 2011, Obama made a foreign policy speech in which he called
> for a return to the pre-1967 Israeli borders with mutually agreed land
> swaps. Obama was criticized by many on the right in the U.S. for the
> proposal.
> The Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, a Republican think
> tank, reports that Obama has imposed a virtual arms embargo on Israel.
> Obama blocked all major Israeli weapons requests, including key
> projects and upgrades, linking arms sales to progress in the peace
> process. At the same time, Obama approved $10 billion in arms sales to
> Arab states, including fighters, missiles, helicopters, and fast
> attack craft. Israel did not protest, despite reports that its
> qualitative military edge was being eroded.
>
> According to a classified U.S. State Departmment cable from October
> 31, 2008, released during the United States diplomatic cables leak,
> the U.S. embassies in Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Saudi
> Arabia, as well as the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency, were
> directed by the Bush administration to conduct espionage operations
> against Israel, targeting all aspects of Israel's political system,
> society, communications infrastructure, and military. Diplomats and
> spies were asked to gather intelligence on planned Israeli military
> operations, military units, equipment, maintenance levels, training,
> morale, operational readiness, tactics, techniques and procedures for
> conventional and unconventional counterinsurgency and counterterrorist
> operations, and Israeli assessment on the impact of reserve duty in
> the occupied territories on its military readiness. Information was
> also sought on government plans, potential ways Israeli politicians
> could be influenced, how politicians decide to launch military
> strikes, the attitude of politicians towards the U.S, the official and
> personal phone numbers, fax numbers, and e-mail addresses of military
> and civilian leaders, Israeli military, intelligence, and civilian
> communications infrastructure, and coded means of producing passports
> and government ID badges.
>
> which political party does US support to Israel come from?
>
> yep ... it's complicated yet clear ... jewish influence on our
> politicians is widespread
>
> ---
> Ron Paul:
> Madame Speaker, I strongly oppose H. Res. 34, which was rushed to the
> floor with almost no prior notice and without consideration by the
> House Foreign Affairs Committee. The resolution clearly takes one side
> in a conflict that has nothing to do with the United States or US
> interests. I am concerned that the weapons currently being used by
> Israel against the Palestinians in Gaza are made in America and paid
> for by American taxpayers. What will adopting this resolution do to
> the perception of the United States in the Muslim and Arab world? What
> kind of blowback might we see from this? What moral responsibility do
> we have for the violence in Israel and Gaza after having provided so
> much military support to one side?
>
> As an opponent of all violence, I am appalled by the practice of
> lobbing homemade rockets into Israel from Gaza. I am only grateful
> that, because of the primitive nature of these weapons, there have
> been so few casualties among innocent Israelis. But I am also appalled
> by the longstanding Israeli blockade of Gaza — a cruel act of war —
> and the tremendous loss of life that has resulted from the latest
> Israeli attack that started last month.
>
> There are now an estimated 700 dead Palestinians, most of whom are
> civilians. Many innocent children are among the dead. While the
> shooting of rockets into Israel is inexcusable, the violent actions of
> some people in Gaza does not justify killing Palestinians on this
> scale. Such collective punishment is immoral. At the very least, the
> US Congress should not be loudly proclaiming its support for the
> Israeli government's actions in Gaza.
>
> Madame Speaker, this resolution will do nothing to reduce the fighting
> and bloodshed in the Middle East. The resolution in fact will lead the
> US to become further involved in this conflict, promising "vigorous
> support and unwavering commitment to the welfare, security, and
> survival of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state." Is it really in
> the interest of the United States to guarantee the survival of any
> foreign country? I believe it would be better to focus on the security
> and survival of the United States, the Constitution of which my
> colleagues and I swore to defend just this week at the beginning of
> the 111th Congress. I urge my colleagues to reject this resolution.
>
> On Sep 22, 9:04 am, GregfromBoston <greg.vinc...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Who just stood in front of the UN and said the US will veto any bid
> > for Palestinian statehood?
>
> > However, I not only don't like Perry's reasoning, I think it borders
> > on illegal. "Borders"
>
> > But then, would you rather him not tell us?
>
> > Try and sort that out. I'm not sure I can
>
> > On Sep 21, 3:36 pm, plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > the idea that a US President's religious convictions will compel him
> > > to support a foreign government, regardless of whether that support
> > > serves specifically American interests, is appalling – and dangerous.
> > > ---
> > > and very unAmerican
> > > Perry, like Bachmann, is a zionist and should be seen as the enemy.
>
> > > otoh - Ron Paul:
> > > - would not stop Israel from defending her interests in any way she
> > > saw fit - but without US support
> > > - has also been criticized for wanting to "end foreign aid to Israel."
> > > He had in fact called for an end to all foreign aid in general.
> > > - will not allow American lives to be sacrificed for Israeli interests
>
> > > Interviewer: [...]"Why do you think that so many US officials,
> > > Congress, Senate, show overwhelming support to involving the US over
> > > there?"
>
> > > Ron Paul: [...] "It's been going on for more than 50 years, because
> > > there has been a pretty strong case made for the Jewish people being
> > > treated quite badly, and emotionally there was an argument for having
> > > a place they can call their homeland, and people bought into this. But
> > > even then there was no justification for us to be using our money for
> > > doing that.
>
> > > On Sep 21, 1:43 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Perry's Faith-Based Foreign Policy DirectiveGod says: 'Put Israel first'byJustin Raimondo, September 21, 2011
> > > > If Rick Perry makes it to the White House, what will American foreign policy in the Middle East look like? We got a clear indication of that, recently, whenhe stated:"As a Christian I have a clear directive to support Israel, from my perspective its pretty easy both as an American and a Christian. I am going to stand with Israel."
> > > > Earlier, inan interviewwith theWeekly Standard, he was even more emphatic, averring that "My faith requires me to support Israel."
> > > > What kind of faith requires knee-jerk support for a foreign country? Apparently, Perry is a follower of a Protestant brand of Christianity known as "dispensationalism," which holds that the End Times are approaching – and thatone of the signsof the imminent apocalypse is the gathering of the Jews in the land of Israel, as supposedly foretold in the Bible. Some dispensationalists equate this with the founding of the Israeli state, in 1947, and the subsequent migration of many Jews to that country. According to dispensationalist theology, this phenomenon prefigures the start of an earth-shattering war, one that will pit Israel against the Forces of Darkness, herald the rise of the Anti-Christ, and ignite a battle that will take place on the field of Armageddon – after which Christ will return to earth and the faithful will be "raptured" up into Heaven.
> > > > Now, I don't intend to disparage anyone's religious beliefs, nor do I want to engage in the kind of snickering that usually accompanies commentary on this subject: everyone is entitled to their own faith, and, aside from that, there is something a little unsavory about the smugness and self-righteousness that is usually attached to discussions of the impact of Christian fundamentalism on American politics. There isno religious testfor holding office in these United States, and it seems to me that some liberals have been trying their best to establish one – a test ofirreligion– in order to marginalize millions of Americans. This kind of intolerance is mirrored, on the right, by some – like GOP presidential aspirantHerman Cain, for example – who have raised questions about the ability of religious Muslims to have their voices heard, or even to hold office.
> > > > However, the idea that a US President's religious convictions will compel him to support a foreign government, regardless of whether that support serves specifically American interests, is appalling – anddangerous. And we can see how dangerous it is by looking at Governor Perry's attacks on the Obama administration for supposedly not kowtowing to Tel Aviv with sufficient obeisance. At a press conference held in New York City, where heappearedwith an Israeli government official, Perrydeclared:"It is time to change our policy of appeasement toward the Palestinians to strengthen our ties to the nation of Israel, and in the process establish a robust American position in the Middle East characterized by a new firmness and a new resolve."What, exactly, does this "policy of appeasement" consist of? The Obama administration isdeterminedto veto the Palestinian statehood proposal being advanced in the UN Security Council, and hasmade it clearthat the US government stands behind the Israelis in their attempt to grab as much land – via theconstructionof "settlements" – as they can, all of it funded
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