Re: The lie that began the endless war on Iraq

We have viable, valid interests in the
region, and it is our inherent right to protect those interests.
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invading a nation, killing it's leaders, and setting up a new
government is not morally defensible for the price of oil ...
Americans are better than that

the neocons who are forcing our leaders to adhere to the intervention
policy are not real Americans

On Sep 8, 4:59 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey PlainOl';
>
> We agree that our role in the world should not be, "Nation Building".  It
> was a mistake,  (and as a side note, I was opposed to the Bush Doctrine of
> "Nation-Building"  at the time)  however, to act as if in 2001-2004 that we,
> collectively as a Nation, including what we now know to be our intelligence
> gathering, both secured/classifed and what was released to the general
> public;  is revisionist.   Saddam was a threat to this Nation as well as to
> the whole Middle East/Southwest Asian region.
>
> Dr. Paul is so far off base with his revisionist anti-war rhetoric.  Paul is
> an isolationist.  This has nothing to do with "Nation Building";  it has to
> do with protecting our interests.   We have viable, valid interests in the
> region,  and it is our inherent right to protect those interests.  Whether
> you like those interests.....Or Not.
>
> On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:39 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > the fact that
> > Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to
> > strike
> > further around the world;  the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
> > thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of
> > thousands of
> > Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either
> > of the
> > Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either)  somehow
> > discounts
> > Saddam Hussein as being a threat?
> > ---
> > it goes back to the failed intervention policy again
> > the USA is not the world police and shouldn't be in the nation
> > building business
>
> > On Sep 6, 5:08 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I don't get anything with your link.
>
> > > And let's make sure we are following your logic.  The fact that Saddam
> > > Hussein possessed five hundred tons of yellow cake, and was consistently
> > > looking for more uranium in several parts of the world;  the fact that
> > > Saddam Hussien was attempting to expand his missile capabilities to
> > strike
> > > further around the world;  the fact that Saddam Hussein had poisoned
> > > thousands of his own countrymen with poisonous gas, and tens of thousands
> > of
> > > Iranians; and the fact that Saddam Hussein did this all before either of
> > the
> > > Bush presidencies, (which is not at all accurate either)  somehow
> > discounts
> > > Saddam Hussein as being a threat?
>
> > > Moonbattery 101.
>
> > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:08 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmka...@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Just in case you haven't seen it, I post it for the hundreth time....
> > > > please read the summaries at the end of each section.
> > > > They say your letter is a crock.
>
> > > > Senate intelligence report on Iraq...full and un-abridged version.
>
> > > >  http://intelligence.senate.gov/080605/phase2a.pdf
>
> > > > On Sep 6, 8:13 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Just in case you might not have seen it, I post it once again:
>
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 10:10 AM, Keith In Tampa <
> > keithinta...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
>
> > > > > > Just off the top of my head, here's a couple:
>
> >http://articles.cnn.com/2008-07-07/us/iraq.uranium_1_yellowcake-urani.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halabja_poison_gas_attack
>
> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 11:55 PM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> .....Just revisionist historians with agenda
> > > > > >> ----
> > > > > >> no, just historical facts
>
> > > > > >>http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/
>
> > > > > >> the US interventionist policy is a complete failure and gets
> > American
> > > > > >> soldiers needlessly killed
>
> > > > > >> U.S. imperialism in the Middle East has always been primarily
> > > > > >> responsible for upholding backward, dictatorial regimes that,
> > without
> > > > > >> its help, would have been overthrown long ago. Middle East
> > specialist
> > > > > >> Dilip Hiro spelled it out: "It is much simpler to manipulate a few
> > > > > >> ruling families (and to secure fat orders for arms and ensure that
> > oil
> > > > > >> prices remain low) than a wide variety of personalities and
> > policies
> > > > > >> bound to be thrown up by a democratic system." But such brutality
> > > > > >> always provokes a reaction--as the new Intifada shows. "If history
> > is
> > > > > >> any guide," writes Michael Hudson, "hegemony by the United States
> > or
> > > > > >> any other party in the Middle East tends to produce resistance."
> > That
> > > > > >> resistance is back--not just in the Intifada in Palestine, but in
> > the
> > > > > >> large sympathy demonstrations throughout the region.
> > > > > >> U.S. Intervention in the Middle East: Blood for Oil
> > > > > >> By Paul D'Amato
> > > > > >> 1991
>
> > > > > >> On Sep 5, 9:32 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> > The problem is with Paul's theory, is that there is no
> > lie......Just
> > > > > >> > revisionist historians with agenda,  (*e.g*.:  "Isolationism")
> > like
> > > > > >> Paul.
>
> > > > > >> > On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 9:03 AM, plainolamerican
> > > > > >> > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > the lies that keep the US military in the middle east never
> > end
>
> > > > > >> > > we know who is telling the lies and who they represent
>
> > > > > >> > > some don't forget
>
> > > > > >> > > On Sep 4, 7:26 pm, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > The lie that began the endless war on IraqSeptember 4, 2011
> > > > > >> byJeffrey
> > > > > >> > > Tucker
> > > > > >> > > > Wikileaks confirms everything.
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGKEnwhcScg&feature=player_embedded
>
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> > > > >  Iraq_WMD_Declassified[1].pdf
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