they borrowed from the SS fund.
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 8:15 AM, ray <jr3901@aol.com> wrote:
> Congress has a contractual obligation to pay debt owed. If debt
> ceiling is not increased, choices will have to be made as to what
> will, and will not, be paid. All debt could still be paid if expense
> were cut from federal operating budget. There is enough "FAT" in
> annual federal operation expense that costs can be trimmed, and debt
> paid, rather easily. Very few in congress have the nerve to tell a
> voter or contributor that their program will be abolished or severely
> reduced. This is where the problem lies.
>
> On Jul 12, 11:33 pm, studio <tl...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, SS doesn't need to finance your time on the Internet anyway.
>> ---
>> Consequences of defaulting on the federal debt
>>
>> Congress has the duty to honor the debts of the United States by
>> raising the federal debt ceiling under the "full faith and credit
>> clause," Article IV, Section 1, of the U.S. Constitution, and Section
>> 4 of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Not raising the
>> federal debt ceiling will cause a default on the U.S. debt in
>> violation of the U.S. Constitution.
>>
>> Has the U.S. ever defaulted on its debt? Well, in a technical sense
>> yes, briefly and unintentionally when Congress waited to the last
>> minute to act to raise the federal debt ceiling in 1979. Our present
>> situation differs where Tea-Publicans are threatening not to raise the
>> federal debt ceiling intentionally to put the nation's debt into
>> default. That will shake the confidence of the international markets
>> in the ability of the U.S. government to govern itself and to honor
>> its debts.
>>
>> All lending agreements, whether between central banks of countries, or
>> your mortgage or credit card agreement, have a "default" provision
>> that automatically escalates the rate of interest to a default rate in
>> the event of default. For many, this will affect your credit
>> worthiness and make credit unavailable. The banks will "adjust" the
>> interest on all credit agreements. Default will cost Americans
>> hundreds of billions of dollars in additional interest and tax dollars
>> to finance the interest on the federal debt over time.
>>
>> So when you hear the darlings of the Tea Party like Sen. Jim DeMint (R-
>> SC) and Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) say they are going to vote
>> against raising the federal debt ceiling because they "don't believe"
>> anything bad is going to occur, just keep in mind that they are
>> ignorant of history, ignorant of economic principles, ignorant of how
>> the international monetary system works, and ignorant of how
>> international markets work in the real world.
>>
>> Why would any sane person listen to what an ignorant fool has to say
>> when all the experts in the field who do this for a living say it will
>> result in a debt crisis and another recession?
>>
>> http://www.blogforarizona.com/blog/2011/07/consequences-of-defaulting...
>> ---
>> Not even mentioning all the checks government writes out to people
>> like Travis, military personnel, pensioners, etc. etc. etcetera.
>
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