Wednesday, June 8, 2011

Re: Is The Penny Still Legal Tender?

He was not fined for paying in pennies... he was fined for the manner
in which he paid ie <<<Campbell says the incident upset staff because
pennies were strewn about
the counter and floor, and West's action served "no legitimate
purpose.">>>

I would have done the same as the bank.... told him to roll them and
bring them back. Of course its legal tender, but its not legal to make
a mess with them or demand that the staff count them.


On Jun 7, 3:05 pm, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashle...@lavabit.com>
wrote:
> "Disorderly conduct" seems to be the "don't argue with me" catch-all
> used by the clowns in uniform these days.
>
> Unfortunately this man will likely take his "punishment" (like many
> before him) for foolishly believing he could pay his bill with the
> King's coin.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Man Cited After Paying Bill With 2,500 Pennies*
>
> (AP)  VERNAL, Utah - A Utah man has been cited on a charge of disorderly
> conduct after paying for a disputed medical bill with 2,500 pennies.
>
> The Deseret News of Salt Lake City reports Jason West went to Basin
> Clinic in Vernal on May 27 prepared to dispute an outstanding $25 bill.
>
> Assistant Vernal Police Chief Keith Campbell says that after asking
> staff members whether they accepted cash, West dumped 2,500 pennies on
> the counter and demanded that staff count them.
>
> Campbell says the incident upset staff because pennies were strewn about
> the counter and floor, and West's action served "no legitimate purpose."
>
> Police later issued the 38-year-old West a citation for disorderly
> conduct. That carries a fine of as much as $140. Or 14,000 pennies.
>
> *Penny Offense: Man Fined For Paying Fee In Pennies*
> By Claudine Zap
>
> No lucky pennies here: Police have charged Jason West, an aggrieved
> medical patient in Vernal, Utah, with disorderly conduct. His alleged
> crime? Attempting to pay a disputed medical bill of $25 entirely in pennies.
>
> The story, reported in the Salt Lake City Deseret News, describes the
> "penny offense" this way: West, 38, did not believe he owed the medical
> clinic $25 but came in to pay the fee in person. He first asked the
> clinic staff if the facility accepted cash payments, and then dumped
> 2,500 pennies onto the counter and demanded that they be counted.
>
> But West apparently hadn't counted on the clinic calling the police; the
> arresting officer contended that West's protest served "no legitimate
> purpose." The charge carries a fine that can go as high as $140--and
> there's no word as yet on what currency West will use to pay it.
>
> West isn't alone in the ranks of penny protesters. A wise guy in
> Frederick, Maryland, showed up at the county clerk's office last summer
> with bags of cash to pay off his tax bill with $966.86 in change.
>
> And a New Jersey school district a few years back punished 29 students
> who paid for their $2 school lunches in pennies--possibly as a
> prank--with two-day detentions. After parents protested, the students
> were pardoned. The school explained that the use of the small change
> slowed down the lunch line.
> --
>
>       Freedom is always illegal!
>
> When we ask for freedom, we have already failed. It is only when we
> declare freedom for ourselves and refuse to accept any less, that we
> have any possibility of being free.

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