future that you're easily insulted. Sorry.
OK, so now... care to respond to the point I made about this poll??
Third post in. Incredibly benign.
On Feb 11, 5:34 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds negative and insulting to me.
>
> On 2/11/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Tommy,
>
> > Can you explain how "The problem is you're so blinded by your bias
> > that you can't even tell you're looking into a mirror." is an insult?
> > Blinded by bias, as in anyone who has extreme views one way or
> > another, so much so that they can not comprehend an alternative point
> > of view. Lots of people fall into that category. In this case you cite
> > a poll that was intended to point out the extreme, hateful nature of
> > Republicans yet you fail to see that similar polls and comments were
> > made by Democrats about Bush during his presidency. Hence the
> > hypocrisy comment.
>
> > My comment, "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to
> > understand the point I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because
> > it exposes the hypocritical nature of the poll?" was made AFTER you
> > accused me of hateful insults. And again, not insulting you, just
> > questioning why you can not address the issue. Either you do not
> > understand it (ignorant?) or you're deliberately avoiding it. So which
> > is it? I wouldn't have even had to question this if you had just
> > addressed the question and not played your childish 'you suck, you
> > hate' game. I don't hate you, I'm trying to understand you. But it's
> > damn hard to do when you never address a question.
>
> > On Feb 11, 4:14 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Frank-
>
> >> You said "Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the
> >> point
> >> I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> >> hypocritical nature of the poll?".
>
> >> That sounds like another officious hateful personal insult, to me.
> >> Another violation of the group rules by you.
>
> >> On 2/10/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> > Are you really so ignorant that you are unable to understand the point
> >> > I'm making, or deliberately avoiding it because it exposes the
> >> > hypocritical nature of the poll?
>
> >> > My comment to you on this thread was not hateful nor was it about you.
> >> > I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of the poll. To do that, I gave you
> >> > a point for point equivalency to what Democrats were saying during the
> >> > Bush years. Can you debate that or not?
>
> >> > And a second challenge to you.. point out where in this thread I made
> >> > hateful insults to you or anyone else.
>
> >> > On Feb 10, 1:20 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Although I get alot of hateful insults and negative arguments from
> >> >> Conservative
> >> >> Pundits, Libertarian Loons, Wingnut Fascists, and Republican
> >> >> Obstructionists, I still
> >> >> believe that my informative efforts are worthwhile.
>
> >> >> Frank, I suggest that you should refrain from looking in the mirror, as
> >> >> it
> >> >> may well shatter if you do.
>
> >> >> On 2/6/11, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Tommy,
>
> >> >> > As previously noted, the responses from this poll are absolutely no
> >> >> > different than the responses given by Democrats during Bush's final
> >> >> > six years. The problem is you're so blinded by your bias that you
> >> >> > can't even tell you're looking into a mirror.
>
> >> >> > On Feb 6, 9:13 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Well, around here, it's sort of all part of the vast
> >> >> >> evangelical-church-Republican-politics-"America"-first rightwing
> >> >> >> thing. People learn from their ministers that God tolerates only
> >> >> >> Republican politics and FOX News, and that "America" is exceptional,
> >> >> >> so it's fully equipped--nay, required--to protect Israel so that
> >> >> >> Jesus
> >> >> >> can return and they can be raptured before the really bad stuff
> >> >> >> happens; then, they get to come back with Jesus and throw all the
> >> >> >> "unperfected" Jews into the pit of fire, along with all the rest of
> >> >> >> us
> >> >> >> who tolerated and cared for our fellow humans. I could go on, but I
> >> >> >> already feel bad just for writing that much, and all it is is the
> >> >> >> truth. But people who watch it believe FOX because they want to,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> because they believe it's the right thing to do.
>
> >> >> >> On 2/6/11, MJ <micha...@america.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> >> > And yet MORE fallacy.
> >> >> >> > Whether or not the Author is this, that or the other is
> >> >> >> > MEANINGLESS
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > far
> >> >> >> > as the veracity of his claim.
> >> >> >> > Similarly, with what group he may or may not be aligned (or
> >> >> >> > purported
> >> >> >> > so) is
> >> >> >> > equally MEANINGLESS.
>
> >> >> >> > Regard$,
> >> >> >> > --MJ
>
> >> >> >> > Since World War II, and especially since the 1950s, the function
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > Republican Party has been to be the "loyal, . . . . moderate,"
> >> >> >> > "bi-partisan," pseudo-opposition to the collectivist and leftist
> >> >> >> > program
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > the Democratic Party. Unlike the more apocalyptic and impatient
> >> >> >> > Bolsheviks,
> >> >> >> > the Mensheviks (or social democrats, or corporate liberals, or
> >> >> >> > "responsible"
> >> >> >> > liberals, or "responsible" conservatives, or neo-conservatives --
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > labels
> >> >> >> > change, but the reality remains the same) try to preserve an
> >> >> >> > illusion
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > free choice for the American public, including a two-party system,
> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> > at
> >> >> >> > least marginal freedom of speech and expression.
>
> >> >> >> > The goal of these "responsible" or "enlightened" moderates has
> >> >> >> > been
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > participate in the march to statism, while replacing the older
> >> >> >> > American
> >> >> >> > ideals of free markets, private property, and limited government
> >> >> >> > with
> >> >> >> > cloudy
> >> >> >> > and noisy rhetoric about the glories of "democracy," as opposed to
> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> > one-party dictatorship of the Soviet Union.
>
> >> >> >> > -- Murray Rothbard, Making Economic Sense
>
> >> >> >> > At 08:49 AM 2/6/2011, you wrote:
>
> >> >> >> >> Here's a little about the author, Jonathan Kantrowitz, from
> >> >> >> >> which
> >> >> >> >> Tom
> >> >> >> >> cites his purported "poll":
>
> >> >> >> >> Founder, Chief Executive Officer. Queue, Inc., an educational
> >> >> >> >> publisher.
> >> >> >> >> 1981-present; Assistant General Counsel. Touche Ross & Co.
> >> >> >> >> 1977-1981;
> >> >> >> >> Coordinator, Fairfield Over-30 Men's Soccer, 1987-present;
> >> >> >> >> Member,
> >> >> >> >> Fairfield Board of Education, 1992-1994; Member, Fairfield Board
> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> Recreation, 1998-1999; Member, Fairfield TV Access Committee,
> >> >> >> >> 2008-2009,
> >> >> >> >> Economic Development Administrator, Town of Fairfield
> >> >> >> >> (consultant)
> >> >> >> >> 2002;
> >> >> >> >> Chairman, Fairfield Temporary Pool Committee, 2004, Chairman,
> >> >> >> >> Fairfield
> >> >> >> >> TV
> >> >> >> >> Access Committee, 2008; Member, Fairfield Democratic Town
> >> >> >> >> Committee,
> >> >> >> >> 1972-2002; Vice-Chairman, Fairfield Democratic Town Committee,
> >> >> >> >> 1994-2000;
> >> >> >> >> Democratic Candidate, U.S. Congress, 1994, 1998, State Senate
> >> >> >> >> 1972,
> >> >> >> >> 1984;
> >> >> >> >> Education:; Brown University: B.A. Economics (1966); Harvard Law
> >> >> >> >> School:
> >> >> >> >> JD (1969).
>
> >> >> >> >> A couple of thoughts come to mind. First, Kantrowitz is a prime
> >> >> >> >> example
> >> >> >> >> of an "Academian" and the reason that our schools and universites
> >> >> >> >> are
> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> such a mess. I would bet that Kantrowitz is a socialist also,
> >> >> >> >> but
> >> >> >> >> there
> >> >> >> >> can be no doubt that Kantrowitz has posted a hate filled
> >> >> >> >> prevaricate
> >> >> >> >> rhetorical post, and this is an example of what he teaches his
> >> >> >> >> pupils.
>
> >> >> >> >> Who took this poll? Who were the participants of the poll?
> >> >> >> >> Note
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> Kantrowitz does not reference any of these most important
> >> >> >> >> aspects.
> >> >> >> >> The
> >> >> >> >> poll is basically not at all reliable and is another example of
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> hate
> >> >> >> >> coming from the far left extremist Anti-American socialistic
> >> >> >> >> movement
> >> >> >> >> that
> >> >> >> >> is very vocal, but still nevertheless a small minority of our
> >> >> >> >> Nation.
> >> >> >> >> They should not be in charge of our schools and universities of
> >> >> >> >> higher
> >> >> >> >> education.
>
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 6:15 AM, frankg <fran...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Tommy,
>
> >> >> >> >> Change the names of the talking heads and politicians, replace
> >> >> >> >> ACORN
> >> >> >> >> stealing the election to simply stealing the election, replace
> >> >> >> >> socialist with communist, impeached can stay in there, replace
> >> >> >> >> "wants
> >> >> >> >> the terrorists to win" with "9/11 was an inside job", etc., and
> >> >> >> >> we
> >> >> >> >> could be discussing what the Democrats were saying about Bush a
> >> >> >> >> few
> >> >> >> >> years ago. This type of hateful rhetoric solves nothing, is not
> >> >> >> >> unique
> >> >> >> >> to either party and generally just proves there are a lot of
> >> >> >> >> intolerant idiots in both political parties.
>
> >> >> >> >> On Feb 4, 8:40 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > I Think, Therefore I am Not
> >> >> >> >> > Glenn Beck.......Sarah Palin.....Ann Coulter....Rush
> >> >> >> >> > Limbaugh....Michelle Bachmann.....Christine O`Donnell....John
> >> >> >> >> > McCain....John Boehner.......Newt Gingrich.......Ron
> >> >> >> >> > Paul.........Mitt
> >> >> >> >> > Romney..........Mitch McConnell.........The Tea Party
> >> >> >> >> > Sheeple......A
> >> >> >> >> > Faux Noise Pundit.....A Republican Obstructionist......A
> >> >> >> >> > Libertarian
> >> >> >> >> > Loon..etc.
>
> >> >> >> >> > Republican Intelligence – an Oxymoron?
>
> >> >> >> >> > by Jonathan Kantrowitz
>
> >> >> >> >> > A new poll of self-identified Republicans released Tuesday
> >> >> >> >> > shows a
>
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>
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