Re: Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq

Tommy,

Too funny. How long did it take you to realize you just posted
something that, in effect, helped justify Bush's claim that it was
faulty intelligence that led to the invasion? Then, true to form, you
quickly post a follow-up that basically says 'ah, doesn't matter..
Bush woulda done it anyway'. Whew, that was close! :)

On Feb 16, 7:44 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Curveball" might have lied, but even if he hadn't George W. Bush
> would have still have invaded Iraq.  Bush was only looking for an
> excuse, Curveball gave him one.  If Curveball hadn't lied, Bush would
> have found (or invented) someone else to lie.
>
> The invasion of Iraq was illegal, and was a personal Bush family
> Vendetta against Sadaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush. Cheney
> and war profiteering greed fueled the motivation.
>
> On 2/16/11, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Exposed: The lie that led us into Iraq
> > The Iraqi defector who claimed Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass
> > destruction has finally confessed that he made the whole thing up. An
> > instant guide
> > posted on February 16, 2011, at 10:12 AM
>
> > Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi says he is happy he lied about an Iraqi
> > weapons program and saw no other way to bring Saddam Hussein down.
> > Photo: Screen shot, guardian.co.uk SEE ALL 14 PHOTOS
> > Eight years after then–Secretary of State Colin Powell used harrowing
> > stories of Saddam Hussein's alleged biological and chemical weapons
> > programs to make the Bush administration's case for invading Iraq, the
> > man who supplied intel agents with those stories admits he made them
> > up. Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, known to U.S. and other Western spy
> > agencies as "Curveball," tells The Guardian that he "fabricated" the
> > whole WMD tale in the hopes of bringing Hussein down. He certainly
> > helped, but what's his real story?
>
> > Who is "Curveball"?
> > Janabi was an Iraqi chemical engineer who now lives in Karlsruhe,
> > Germany. He fled Iraq in 1995, and, beginning in 2000, worked for
> > several years as a paid informant for Germany's secret service. He and
> > his family were granted German citizenship in 2008. His now-admitted
> > lies to German agents helped found the U.S. case for invading Iraq.
>
> > What did he lie about?
> > WMDs. Janabi claimed he helped build mobile germ-warfare labs at a
> > facility hidden inside a birdseed purification plant just south of
> > Baghdad. These mobile labs, he said, were driven from place to place
> > to avoid detection. To bolster his story, Janabi also said that 12
> > bio-weapons technicians died in a 1998 accident. Colin Powell included
> > all those fabrications in a pivotal speech to the United Nations in
> > February, 2003.
>
> > Why did Janabi lie?
> > He now tells The Guardian that he wanted to "get rid" of Saddam.
> > German agents, he says, "gave me this chance. I had the chance to
> > fabricate something to topple the regime." The former CIA chief in
> > Europe, Tyler Drumheller, says he thinks it's more likely Janabi just
> > wanted to be rewarded with asylum in Germany. "If this was part of a
> > grand scheme to overthrow Suddam Hussein then he is one of the world's
> > greatest strategic planners," Drumheller says.
>
> > Did intel agencies really believe him?
> > Janabi says he thinks some in the intelligence world had uncovered his
> > lies in mid-2000, but that the German agents who contacted him two
> > years later still seemed to be taking his stories seriously. U.S.
> > officials didn't have any direct contact with Janabi. Drumheller says
> > he warned CIA headquarters before Powell's speech that Janabi might be
> > a liar, and says CIA Deputy Director John McLaughlin replied, "Oh, I
> > hope not, because this is really all we have."
>
> > What's the fallout?
> > "On the word of this third-rate, third-world con man, Bush caused tens
> > of thousands of injuries and thousands of deaths among American
> > forces, spent a trillion American dollars, and destroyed American
> > credibility worldwide," says Christopher Manion at LewRockwell.com. On
> > the other hand, says Tim Dickinson at Rolling Stone, Janabi is "a man
> > who saw an opportunity to change history, and seized it."
>
> > Does Janabi regret his lies?
> > No. "I and my sons are proud... that we were the reason to give Iraq
> > the margin of democracy," he insists. "Can you give me another
> > solution? Believe me, there was no other way to bring about freedom to
> > Iraq. There were no other possibilities."
>
> > Sources: Guardian (2,3,4), Death & Taxes, NPR (2), Rolling Stone,
> > LewRockwell.com
>
> > More:
> >http://theweek.com/article/index/212169/exposed-the-lie-that-led-us-i...
>
> > --
> > Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> > Have a great day,
> > Tommy
>
> --
> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> Have a great day,
> Tommy

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