Monday, December 13, 2010

Re: The Truth About Homosexuality

Jonathan-
Keith's post is so filled with lies and homophobia that it is pathetic.

To Keith-
In brief, Being gay is not a choice or a lifestyle, is perfectly normal in the
entire animal kingdom, and most gays are normal, ordinary looking
people. Many gays are chaste and celebate. Most gays are not
flamboyant, unlike many heterosexuals who flaunt their sexuality and
romantic encounters and desires at every turn, holding hands, kissing,
and worse in public. Gays make excellent parents, far better than
many dysfunctional heterosexual parents. Most pedophiles are
heterosexual. Your homophobic claims are ALL hateful lies.

I will address this pile of lies and homophobic misconceptions from
Keith further later when time permits.


On 12/12/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
> There you go again, Tommy!
>
> Instead of engaging Kieth in discourse regarding his presentations
> regarding homosexuality, you resorted to name calling.
>
> If what Kieth presented was "yet another giant pile of lies, hate,
> misconceptions, and homophobia," why don't you provide evidence refuting
> Kieth's assertions? A learned man such as yourself should not find that
> difficult to do - if the scientific evidence supports you view.
>
> On 12/12/2010 11:08 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> Yet Another giant pile of Lies, Hate, Misconceptions, and Homophobia
>> from Keith.
>>
>> On 12/12/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good Morning Members,
>>>
>>> Since TommyTomForNews has accused me of being a Liar"; a "Hater" and a
>>> "Smearer" (whatever the Hell a "smearer" means); I thought maybe it was
>>> time to shed a little light on our Homosexual community.
>>>
>>> First, in the article that Tom posted, captioned, "*The Ten Lies about
>>> the
>>> GLBT Community Told by Conservative Hate Groups: a Straight Christian
>>> Perspective*"; and no doubt funded and/or written by the Southern
>>> Poverty
>>> Law Center, which suggested that it was all of Western Society's fault
>>> that
>>> homosexuals are stigmatized. That in particular, conservatives are the
>>> ones that, "hated" and caused the misrepresentations about
>>> homosexuality....That Homosexuality was a wonderful thing, that it was in
>>> fact the rest of us who are so misguided; I suggested two things,
>>> First,
>>> that the Southern Poverty Law Center is a Hate Group, and Two: that the
>>> article was no doubt prevaricate (that means a lie TommyTomTom!) and not
>>> truthful. (That means I am being redundant Tommy!)
>>>
>>> So, I will now prove my point:
>>>
>>>
>>> Research into the issue of the origins of homosexuality suggests that
>>> adoptive brothers are more likely to both be homosexuals than the
>>> biological
>>> brothers, who share half their genes which suggests that homosexuality is
>>> not genetically caused. This data prompted the journal *Science* to
>>> report;
>>> "this . . . suggests that there is no genetic component, but rather an
>>> environmental component shared in families".
>>>
>>> http://www.sciencemag.org/content/262/5142/2063.citation
>>>
>>> http://www.trueorigin.org/gaygene01.asp
>>>
>>> http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf
>>> However, in regards to psychosocial and biological theories in regards to
>>> the origin of homosexuality, Columbia University
>>> psychiatry<https://mail.google.com/Psychiatry>professors Drs. William
>>> Byrne and Bruce Parsons stated in 1994: "There is no
>>> evidence that at present to substantiate a biological theory. [T]he
>>> appeal
>>> of current biological explanations for sexual orientation may derive more
>>> from dissatisfaction with the present status of psychosocial explanations
>>> than from a substantiating body of experimental data".
>>>
>>> Homosexual men have higher rates of suicide and depression than
>>> heterosexuals:
>>>
>>> http://www.narth.com/docs/whitehead.html
>>>
>>> Homosexuals are statistically more deviant than their heterosexual
>>> counterparts; *e.g.;* statistics prove that homosexuals are more apt to
>>> commit axe murders than heterosexuals, (and I am paraphrasing) :
>>>
>>> http://www.sociology.org/courses/sociology-100-introduction-sociology/unit-5-deviance
>>>
>>> http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E2DE123FF937A1575AC0A96F958260
>>>
>>> http://www.adherents.com/misc/hsk.html
>>>
>>> Here's one for ya Lil'MoonbatTommy, homosexuals are less prone to school
>>> harassment than their heterosexual counterparts:
>>>
>>> http://www.narth.com/docs/symptoms.html
>>>
>>> Lesbians are more prone to substance abuse than their heterosexual
>>> counterparts:
>>>
>>> http://www.narth.com/docs/symptoms.html
>>>
>>> I could go on and on, shooting bullets in Tommy's little propagandist
>>> missive, but I think everyone gets my point. Tom talks out of his ass,
>>> and
>>> has never, ever substantiated any of his crackpot Anti-American,
>>> Pro-Homsexual theories.
>>>
>>> Finally, I am not Anti-Gay. I make no judgments on what an individual
>>> does
>>> sexually, and behind closed doors. I am also a strong advocate for ANY
>>> individual who has been discrimiated against, because of his race,
>>> religious
>>> beliefs, or his sexual orientation. By the same token, I am just as
>>> outspoken with regard to individuals and entities who advocate for more
>>> rights and privileges than the rest of Americans enjoy, based solely on
>>> their religious beliefs, their sexuality, or the color of their skin. It
>>> is
>>> time that all Americans stand up and say, "ENOUGH" to the likes of
>>> Tommy,
>>> and all individuals who would harm our Nation, and our civil liberties!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ========================
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In 1999, Dr. Jeffrey
>>> Satinover<https://mail.google.com/index.php?title=Jeffrey_Satinover&action=edit&redlink=1>,
>>> M.D. wrote the following regarding the position of *sexual abuse being a
>>> contributing factor for homosexuality*:
>>> " Many studies demonstrate a sadly disproportionate extent of sexual
>>> abuse
>>> in the childhoods of homosexual<https://mail.google.com/Homosexuality>
>>> men,
>>> suggesting at the least that both homosexual unhappiness and
>>> homosexuality
>>> itself derive from common
>>> causes...[1]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-0>
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>> In 2001, the journal *Archives of Sexual
>>> Behavior<https://mail.google.com/index.php?title=Archives_of_Sexual_Behavior&action=edit&redlink=1>
>>> * published a study entitled *Comparative data of childhood and
>>> adolescence
>>> molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons*. The abstract for
>>> this
>>> article states the following:
>>> " In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and
>>> lesbian
>>> women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than
>>> did
>>> heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in
>>> contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation.
>>> Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual
>>> women
>>> reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first
>>> survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of
>>> girls.[2]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-asb-1>
>>> "
>>>
>>>
>>> The authors of the above medical journal article entitled *Comparative
>>> data
>>> of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual
>>> persons* also stated that childhood sexual molestation may not be a
>>> causal
>>> factor for homosexuality and that the abuse molestation may be occurring
>>> after the individual is a homosexual and the medical researchers
>>> speculated
>>> that the victims of molestation may be engaging in behaviors that put
>>> them
>>> at greater risk for
>>> molestation.[2]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-asb-1>
>>>
>>> In 1998, Dr. William C. Holmes, M.D. and Dr. Gail B. Slap, M.D. reported
>>> in
>>> the medical journal JAMA<https://mail.google.com/JAMA> the following:
>>> " Adolescent boys, particularly those victimized by males, were up to
>>> 7
>>> times more likely to identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual than
>>> peers who had not been abused (P<.001).
>>> [3]<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#cite_note-jama-2>
>>>
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Have a great day,
Tommy

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