Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Re: Socialism For Dummies or: Why Obama Isn't a Communist, Marxist, or Socialist

DEMOCRATIC

1. Pertaining to a republic; consisting of a commonwealth; as a
republican constitution or government.


REPUBLICAN

1. Pertaining to democracy; favoring democracy, or constructed upon
the principle of government by the people.


On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
> If they were interchangeable they would not have needed replacing.
>
> *REPUBLICAN,* a.
>
> 1. Pertaining to a republic; consisting of a commonwealth; as a
> republican constitution or government.
>
> *DEMOCRATIC, a.*
>
> *1.* Pertaining to democracy; favoring democracy, or constructed
> upon the principle of government by the people.
>
>
>
> On 10/20/2010 10:30 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> Let me remind you of the use of semantics and shades of meaning yet again.
>>
>> In the recent Texas Schoolbook controversy, the books weere revised to
>> exclude the words "Democrat" Democracy", and replace those words with
>> "Republican" and "Republic".
>> The terms are interchangeable, but not in the small minds of some who
>> fail to comprehend their shades of meaning and etymological
>> provinance.
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> But you realize that we live in a republican form of government don't you
>>> Tom? We don't live in a democracy in the literal sense.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not dodging the question.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that
>>>> statement.
>>>> I believe in Democracy. I am an American.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>>>> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
>>>>>
>>>>> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two
>>>>> systems of government you think we should follow being silly?
>>>>>
>>>>> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to
>>>>> believe
>>>>> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you
>>>>> prefer being called a collectivist.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to,
>>>>> or characteristic of, collectivism.*
>>>>> *
>>>>>
>>>>> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be
>>>>> owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>>> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
>>>>>> question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Should have read:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tommy,
>>>>>>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
>>>>>>>> should follow?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> privately or corporately owned and development is
>>>>>>>> proportionate
>>>> to
>>>>>>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free
>>>>>>>> market.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of
>>>> producing
>>>>>>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a
>>>>>>>> centralized
>>>>>>>> government that often plans and controls the economy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>>>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
>>>>>>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
>>>>>>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is
>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
>>>>>>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and
>>>>>>>>> repetitive.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
>>>>>>>>> anti-American.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
>>>>>>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate
>>>>>>>>>> speech"
>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a
>>>>>>>>>> socialistic
>>>>>>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market
>>>>>>>>>> economy,
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> ignorant.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it.
>>>>>>>>>> Actually,
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American.
>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that
>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>> folks
>>>>>>>>>> fall into one of two categories:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read.
>>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
>>>>>>>>>> mainstream
>>>>>>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never
>>>>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> root
>>>>>>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to
>>>> realize
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are
>>>>>>>>>> conservative
>>>>>>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes.
>>>> Further,
>>>>>>>>>> (and
>>>>>>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of
>>>>>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> tenets
>>>>>>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the
>>>>>>>>>> World,
>>>>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our
>>>>>>>>>> founding
>>>>>>>>>> fathers
>>>>>>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
>>>>>>>>>> understand
>>>>>>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the
>>>>>>>>>> United
>>>>>>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth
>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>> Nation-State.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is literally no other option.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and
>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic
>>>>>>>>>> facts,
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical
>>>>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>>>>> left,
>>>>>>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the
>>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social
>>>>>>>>>> networks.
>>>>>>>>>> All
>>>>>>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior
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>>>> Have a great day,
>>>> Tommy
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> *I Refuse To Comply With The Unconstitutional Demands Of The Federal
> Government*
> http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html
>
> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.
>
> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
> governed are weak.*
>
> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really
> happening. What
> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior
> public relations."
> - Marc Stevens
>
> "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free it expects something that
> cannot be."
> - Thomas Jefferson****
>
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