But you realize that we live in a republican form of government don't you Tom? We don't live in a democracy in the literal sense.
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not dodging the question.
I said that it is a dumb and baited question and I stand buy that statement.
I believe in Democracy. I am an American.
On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley <jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
> Why are you dodging the question, Tommy?
>
> You are subscribed to a political forum. How is asking which of two
> systems of government you think we should follow being silly?
>
> The fact that you understand it is a baited question leads me to believe
> you know you are a socialist. You're just afraid to admit it.
>
> Or, perhaps - since you push all the collectivism crap on us - you
> prefer being called a collectivist.
>
> *Collectivist*, n. An advocate of collectivism. -- a. Relating to,
> or characteristic of, collectivism.*
> *
>
> *Collectivism*, n. The doctrine that land and capital should be
> owned by society collectively or as a whole; communism.
>
>
> On 10/20/2010 10:07 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>> Why would you even ask such a silly, baited, and officiously offensive
>> question?
>>
>> I am not a Marxist, Socialist, or Communist.
>>
>> Centrist Liberals, Democrats, and President Obama are not either.
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Jonathan Ashley<jonathanashleyii@lavabit.com> wrote:
>>> Should have read:
>>>
>>> Tommy,
>>>> Which one of the following systems of government do you believe we
>>>> should follow?
>>>>
>>>> 1. A system in which the means of production and distribution are
>>>> privately or corporately owned and development is proportionate to
>>>> the accumulation and reinvestment of profits gained in a free
>>>> market.
>>>>
>>>> 2. A system of social organization in which the means of producing
>>>> and distributing goods is owned collectively or by a centralized
>>>> government that often plans and controls the economy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/20/2010 9:36 AM, Tommy News wrote:
>>>>> It appears that you do not know what Marxism is, Keith, as you
>>>>> continually and falsely call Democrats, Centrist liberals,
>>>>> Progressives, and President Obama Marxists, which they are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is why I sent this piece, to enlighten you, if that is possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Liberals and Democrats are NOT Marxists, Socialists, or Communists.
>>>>> Using these false slurs over and over again is offensive and
>>>>> repetitive.
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that those who slander and disrespect the President are
>>>>> anti-American.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa<keithintampa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Those who don't comprehend or understand what Marxism, Socialism,
>>>>>> Capitalism, etc., mean, and somehow believe that it is "hate speech"
>>>>>> by
>>>>>> calling an individual a "Socialist"; because he advocates a
>>>>>> socialistic
>>>>>> political and economic system over a capitalistic, free market
>>>>>> economy,
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> ignorant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mean to say that they are stupid....Far from it. Actually, I
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> lot of respect for these that are ignorant, or Anti-American. They
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> dangerous to our Nation. I have come to the conclusion that these
>>>>>> folks
>>>>>> fall into one of two categories:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (A) *e.g.;* Most of them are ill informed and not well read. They
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> keep up with current events, other than to watch liberal, biased
>>>>>> mainstream
>>>>>> media, or read and follow far left slanted web sites, never taking
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> to comprehend why or how any specific situation or came to be, or the
>>>>>> root
>>>>>> cause, genesis or motivation of any particular issue. They tend to
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> that they are the only ones that are compassionate, failing to realize
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> it is statistically proven in fact, that those who are conservative
>>>>>> contribute far more money& resources to charitable causes. Further,
>>>>>> (and
>>>>>> just as important!) these same individuals don't have a lot of
>>>>>> knowledge
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> our history; they fail to understand or comprehend the principals and
>>>>>> tenets
>>>>>> that made the United States the greatest Nation-State in the World,
>>>>>> bar
>>>>>> none. In general, these people reject the notion that our founding
>>>>>> fathers
>>>>>> were influenced by Christian principals and tenets, but they do
>>>>>> understand
>>>>>> enough history that they would very much like to revise this one
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> aspect. Thus their lack of understanding and reasoning; or,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (B) They are literally Anti-Americans, and they want to see the
>>>>>> United
>>>>>> States become equal to or consistent with a third world or fourth
>>>>>> world
>>>>>> Nation-State.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is literally no other option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The point being, is that ALL of these folks are hypocritical, and
>>>>>> filled
>>>>>> with hate. When confronted with truth, logic, or just basic facts,
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can resort to is slinging out hate filled smear, and the typical far
>>>>>> left,
>>>>>> Socialist-Elitist talking points that have been generated by the
>>>>>> George
>>>>>> Soros' funded foundations, media organizations and social networks.
>>>>>> All
>>>>>> they can do, is attack the messenger.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Tommy News<tommysnews@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Thiose who use words as clubs are misguided bullies.
>>>>>>
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> Government*
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> *Government is a disease masquerading as its own cure.
>
> *Government is only as strong as those who allow themselves to be
> governed are weak.*
>
> *"The 'art' of politics is diverting attention from what's really
> happening. What
> separates politicians from other criminal organizations is superior
> public relations."
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Tommy
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