You forget that I require facts.... This deal was being negotiated a full year before Obama was even in the primary elections let alone a real candidate for the Democrats. Nobama had "0" to do with it... General Petraeus was the impetus after the success of the "Surge" and with the insistence of the new Iraqi Government as well.
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Mark M. Kahle H.
-- On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
False.
The Faux deal was signed because President Obama was about to do it
and Dubya wanted the credit.
On 10/21/10, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Tommy,
>
> I am NOT a fan of Georgy Girl Bush. He did however cut and sign the
> deal to end Iraq before he left office. NoBama is simply implementing
> the republican signed plan.
>
> On Oct 21, 7:36 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I cannot open adobe documents on my old computer.
>>
>> Bush himself admitted that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
>>
>> The illegal invasion of Iraq was in reality a personal Bush family
>> vendetta against Sadaaam Hussein, who tried to kill Daddy Bush,
>> combined with the war profiteering greed of Dick Cheney and his
>> Halliburton cronies.
>>
>> The unilateral invasion of Iraq violated both the Geneva Convention
>> and The United Nations Charter, and the war criminals Bush, Cheney,
>> Rove, Rice, and Rumsfeld should be impeached, tried and imprisoned.
>> Yes, they can still be impeached even after they have left office.
>>
>> Thankfully, President Obama has ended the illegal Iraq war, and he has
>> promised to also end the war in Afghanistan beginning in 2011.
>>
>> PEACE!
>>
>> On 10/20/10, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Whoops! I forgot to attach the attachment!
>>
>> > Apologies!
>>
>> > Keith
>>
>> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Keith In Tampa
>> > <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> >> Hey Michael,
>>
>> >> Maybe that great Irish American, Jude Wannanski might want to take up
>> >> his
>> >> research, and resources with John Negroponte, and the United States
>> >> Congress. (*See* Attachment, in .pdf format, from June 21, 2006).
>>
>> >> Below is info from the Congressional Research Office, of the weaponry
>> >> that
>> >> was unaccounted for, and at the time that we invaded Iraq, none of
>> >> these
>> >> biological weapons had been located. Again, *See* Attachment....We did
>> >> find some of them.
>>
>> >> Below that, is other articles that conclusively prove that not only did
>> >> we
>> >> discover that there had been biological weaponry and potential nuclear
>> >> weaponry in Iraq, but we still, to date, have not accounted for all of
>> >> Saddam Hussein's and the Baath Party's weaponry.
>>
>> >> Anything else, is nothing but far left, liberal mainstream spin and
>> >> bias,
>> >> which folks like Tom fall for and quote, hook, line and sinker.
>>
>> >> Tommy, there is some "special" information for you, as well as a You
>> >> Tube
>> >> video clip for you to watch at the bottom of this message:
>>
>> >> ===========
>>
>> >> From the Congressional Research Service: April, 1998:
>>
>> >>http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/crs/98042705_npo.html
>>
>> >> Iraq has also acknowledged that prior to the
>> >> Persian<http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/crs/98042705_npo.html#>Gulf
>> >> conflict it
>> >> manufactured 100 botulinum bombs, 50 anthrax bombs, and 7 aflatoxin
>> >> bombs.
>> >> In addition, 16 missile warheads were filled with botulinum, five with
>> >> anthrax bacillus, and four with aflatoxin.
>>
>> >> U.S. and British intelligence agencies believe that Iraq has hidden
>> >> stores of CBW agents, production equipment, ballistic missiles, and
>> >> missile warheads. UNSCOM has reported no firm evidence that Iraq still
>> >> retains weapons or materiel, but the Iraqi government has not provided
>> >> adequate evidence to support its claim that all its CBW arsenal has
>> >> been
>> >> destroyed, nor has it accounted for CBW production materials known to
>> >> have
>> >> been in its possession. These factors, coupled with Iraqi obstruction
>> >> of
>> >> UNSCOM inspections, have led to strong suspicions. U.S. and British
>> >> intelligence agencies believe that Iraq still may possess tons of
>> >> chemical
>> >> warfare agents and the necessary materials to produce thousands of
>> >> liters
>> >> of
>> >> biological agents. UNSCOM and U.S. intelligence differ in their
>> >> estimates
>> >> of
>> >> the number of actual missiles that may still be in Iraq. Again
>> >> information
>> >> is sketchy. In part, this is because much is classified, but even the
>> >> classified information is reportedly incomplete. A recent report issued
>> >> by
>> >> the British government, however, provided some information (Foreign and
>> >> Commonwealth Office --
>> >> (http://193.114.50.5/texts/1998/feb/04/iraqppr.txt).
>>
>> >> -- British intelligence believes that up to ten SCUD missiles capable
>> >> of carrying CBW warheads remain hidden.
>>
>> >> -- UNSCOM reports that between 40-70 CBW-capable missile warheads are
>> >> unaccounted for.
>>
>> >> -- Iraq possessed enough growth medium to produce over 16,000 liters
>> >> more
>> >> anthrax spores than has been acknowledged.
>>
>> >> -- 4,000 tons of CW precursor chemicals are unaccounted for; enough to
>> >> produce several hundred tons of CW agents.
>>
>> >> -- 31,000 CW munitions remain unaccounted for.
>>
>> >> -- Essential CW production equipment remains unaccounted for.
>>
>> >> -- It is believed that Iraq may retain undetermined amounts of Ebola
>> >> virus, bubonic and pneumonic plague bacteria, and the toxin ricin.
>>
>> >> ========================
>>
>> >> Thursday, 19 December, 2002, 16:35 GMT
>> >> *Iraq's 'unaccounted for' weapons*
>>
>> >> By Paul Reynolds
>> >> BBC News Online world affairs correspondent
>>
>> >>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2590265.stm
>>
>> >> Chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix has said Iraq's new declaration
>> >> contains little information that had not been declared by Baghdad
>> >> before
>> >> 1998 when UN arms experts were last in Iraq.
>>
>> >> The US and UK have long had concerns about what is described as
>> >> unaccounted
>> >> for chemical, biological and nuclear material. Their assessments were
>> >> partly
>> >> based on a report by the weapons inspections organisation Unscom,
>> >> predecessor to Unmovic.
>>
>> >> In early 1999, Unscom gave the Security Council its own assessment of
>> >> what
>> >> Iraq had destroyed and what remained unaccounted for.
>>
>> >> The US and UK want a full explanation of what happened to the
>> >> following:
>>
>> >> - 360 tonnes of chemical warfare agents, including 1.5 tonnes of VX
>> >> nerve agent;
>>
>> >> - 3,000 tonnes of chemical precursors (which are developed into
>> >> chemical weapons) including 300 tonnes uniquely used for VX.
>>
>> >> The 1999 Unscom report said:
>>
>> >> "According to Iraq, 1.5 tonnes of VX were discarded unilaterally by
>> >> dumping
>> >> on the ground. Traces of one VX-degradation product and a chemical
>> >> known
>> >> as
>> >> a VX-stabilizer were found in the samples taken from the VX dump sites.
>> >> A
>> >> quantified assessment is not possible."
>>
>> >> *Biological*
>>
>> >> Britain and America want to know about:
>>
>> >> Growth media for 20,000 litres of biological warfare agents. Any Iraqi
>> >> claims that this will have degenerated will not be accepted as mustard
>> >> gas
>> >> found in shells in 1997 was active;
>>
>> >> Shells for use in biological warfare - 20,000 are missing say the
>> >> British,
>> >> 15,000 say the Americans;
>>
>> >> Unscom said in 1999:
>>
>> >> "The commission has little or no confidence in Iraq's accounting for
>> >> proscribed items for which physical evidence is lacking or
>> >> inconclusive,
>> >> documentation is sparse or nonexistent, and coherence and consistency
>> >> is
>> >> lacking.
>>
>> >> These include, for example: quantities and types of munitions available
>> >> for
>> >> biological weapons (BW) filling; quantities and types of munitions
>> >> filled
>> >> with BW agents; quantities and type of bulk agents produced; quantities
>> >> of
>> >> bulk agents used in filling; quantities of bulk agents destroyed;
>> >> quantities
>> >> of growth media acquired for the programme; and quantities of growth
>> >> media
>> >> used/consumed.
>>
>> >> In addition, the commission has no confidence that all bulk agents have
>> >> been destroyed; that no BW munitions or weapons remain in Iraq; and
>> >> that a
>> >> BW capability does not still exist in Iraq."
>>
>> >> *Chemical warfare munitions*
>>
>> >> Washington and London demand disclosure on:
>>
>> >> 6,000 chemical warfare bombs.
>>
>> >> Unscom said:
>>
>> >> The commission has accepted the destruction of about 34,000 munitions
>> >> on
>> >> the basis of multiple sources, including physical evidence, documents
>> >> provided by Iraq etc. However, it has not been possible to achieve a
>> >> numerical accounting of destroyed munitions due to heavy bomb damage of
>> >> the
>> >> CW storage
>> >> facilities<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>,
>> >> where these munitions had been stored during the Gulf war. The
>> >> destruction
>> >> of about 2,000 unfilled munitions remain uncertain, 550 filled
>> >> munitions
>> >> remain unaccounted for.
>>
>> >> Other key concerns for the US and UK include the following:
>>
>> >> - Why did Iraq try to import 60,000 aluminium tubes? Rapidly
>> >> spinning
>> >> rotor tubes in centrifuges are used to separate weapons grade
>> >> uranium,
>> >> though both the British and American reports acknowledge that the
>> >> tubes
>> >> could be used for conventional weapons as well.
>>
>> >> Why did it try to import other equipment, including vacuum
>> >> pumps<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>,
>> >> a winding machine and special chemicals needed in gas
>> >> centrifuge<https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.h...>cascades?
>>
>> >> =============================================
>>
>> >> I don't think there is any argument, by anyone who keeps abreast of
>> >> current
>> >> affairs and world events, that all of the Western World believed at the
>> >> time
>> >> of the United States' invasion of Iraq, that Saddam Hussein possessed
>> >> biological and chemical weapons, and was attempting to obtain nuclear
>> >> weaponry. Hell, we, (MNO's from Germany, the United States and Great
>> >> Britain) sold them to Hussein and his government! Anthrax, VX nerve
>> >> agent,
>> >> and a variety of other weapons of mass destruction were never accounted
>> >> for
>> >> by Saddam Hussein and his Baath Party led Iraqi government, as late as
>> >> 2003.
>>
>> >>http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/jan-june03/wmd_5-29.html
>>
>> >> As stated, I attached a declassified file from the United States Senate
>> >> where 500 canisters for missile armament tips of nerve agent were
>> >> found
>> >> in
>> >> 2006.
>>
>> >> No major media outcry over that. Hardly a peep from mainstream media
>> >> when
>> >> 550 metric tons of yellow cake was recently shipped to Canada from
>> >> Iraq,
>> >> just this year:
>>
>> >>http://newsbusters.org/blogs/ken-shepherd/2008/07/07/msm-yawn-550-met...
>>
>> >>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-elliott/weapons-of-mass-destruc...
>>
>> >>http://stke.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/2003/203/pe42
>>
>> ...
>>
>> read more »
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