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On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.bruce@gmail.com> wrote:
Tommy is deeply sub-intellectual while sprinkled with that pretentious pixie dust that keeps hi smugly picked in his own ignorance. So faggoty intellectuallyThe Cold, Crisp Taste of Koch
Jesse Walker | August 31, 2010
From Frank Rich's rehash of Jane Mayer's recent hit piece on the philanthropizin' oilmen Charles and David Koch:
When David Koch ran to the right of Reagan as vice president on the 1980 Libertarian ticket (it polled 1 percent), his campaign called for the abolition not just of Social Security, federal regulatory agencies and welfare but also of the F.B.I., the C.I.A., and public schools -- in other words, any government enterprise that would either inhibit his business profits or increase his taxes.You might be wondering why the author thinks a campaign that wanted to abolish the FBI and CIA was "to the right of Reagan." It looks like Rich is just recycling Mayer's New Yorker story here: Mayer wrote that the Ed Clark/David Koch ticket "was running against Ronald Reagan from the right."
In fact, Clark is pretty much the sole Libertarian presidential nominee to have consciously presented himself as running from the left. (The only other case that even arguably comes close is Michael Badnarik, the party's standard-bearer in 2004, who played up his antiwar stances and established a friendly relationship with Green nominee David Cobb.) Clark told reporters he was a "low-tax liberal" (which, whatever else you think about it, rolls more trippingly off the tongue than "liberaltarian"); he issued white papers that presented a liberal-friendly, gradualist approach to shrinking the state; he got Eugene McCarthy to appear in a campaign ad and to write the intro to Clark's campaign book. (And then McCarthy turned around and endorsed Reagan, wrecking his lefty street cred. So it goes.) Frank Rich's description of what the "campaign called for" is drawn from the radical platform adopted by delegates at the Libertarian convention, not from the Clark/Koch campaign's own statements. Look at those and you'll find calls to reduce government spending to Kennedy-era levels, a suggestion that welfare need not be cut until unemployment is eliminated, and an education plan centered around the idea of a tax credit for "voluntary educational alternatives."
That was the Kochs' center-left side. In the Carter years, much of the brothers' libertarian largess went to projects with a far more left-wing flavor. Radical intellectuals and investigative journalists contributed to the Cato Institute's Inquiry magazine; Students for a Libertarian Society devoted most of its energy to opposing conscription and nuclear power. In June 1979, such activities prompted National Review to run its own contribution to the Koch-conspiracy oeuvre, featuring the immortal cover line "Anarchists, backed by corporate big money, infiltrate the freedom movement." Before Mayer was tracing the money trail from the Koch brothers to global warming skeptics, NR's Lawrence Cott was warning conservatives that Koch funds were linked to the Campaign to Stop Government Spying, the leftist Institute for Policy Studies, and members of "theapparat that exposed the American agent who was murdered in Athens." To give you a sense of how excitable Cott could be, that scary-sounding line about the "apparat" was a reference to someInquiry contributors who had also written for the anti-CIA magazine CounterSpy.
If you combine the accurate elements of the Cott and Mayer articles, you'll have the rudiments of a much more interesting story, one that may begin with the brothers' Bircher background and end with the rise of the Tea Parties but will take some unexpected detours along the way. The new narrative wouldn't be so easy to fit into a simple left/right, Red/Blue framework, let alone the pinko conspiracies of Cott's imagination or the corpo-conservative cabals of Mayer's. But the tale just might tell you a few things about the vast world to be found outside the Crossfire format.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 9:42 PM, THE ANNOINTED ONE <markmkahle@gmail.com> wrote:
Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,
to say ".... to accuse all
of us who care about helping others..."I believe in helping others, I have founded a school, built a non-
denominational church, fed hundreds and housed hundreds more.... all
of my own volition
To have the government do this is un-constitutional. No one has a
right to tell me which insurance policy to buy, or to buy one for
someone else. Health and or health insurance is not a "Right" nor is
it an entitlement. I did not approve of nor did anyone I know vote for
the bailout of the car companies... there is no basis for firing one
of their executives.
I do not agree that the US has any business building or rebuilding
Mosques OVERSEAS... (60,000,000 this year..so far)
There are many other things as well.
As to Beck and his rally.....There were several "Politicos" but could
you please point out that part of their speeches that was indeed
political or even mentioned the political system in more than abstract
terms.
I am eagerly awaiting any pointed response to my post.
On Sep 1, 3:24 pm, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *You and I know that Beck has NO beliefs, religious, social, civil, or
> otherwise. He is certainly no expert on ANY religion and he certainly has
> no grounds to judge what is in our President's heart. His "I have a scheme"
> rally was beyond bizarre.
>
> This whole rant is being brought to us by Karl Rove, Dick Armey, and the
> Koch Brothers to further divide this country. Glenn Beck claims to be a
> Mormon, but he changes his demented tune every day. He is getting daily
> help writing this drivel. First, he used hatred of illegals, then Muslims,
> and he and Palin are working hard to divide this country...now about
> religion...who believes in what, when.
>
> He is totally using real compassionate love of neighbor ideals to accuse all
> of us who care about helping others...to turn us into some kind of enemy of
> "conservatives"....such a bucket of warm spit. He is NO expert on
> anything...he was lucky to make it through high school. Yes, he is
> definitely obsessed, but religion has nothing to do with theology, but
> rather his addiction to power and attention.
>
> Thanks for letting me explain what he is really up to...in case anyone out
> there is tempted to latch on to the ravings of a mad man.*
>> On 8/31/10, Robert Morton <robertmorton...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > My problem with Beck is that his concepts are simplistic, indeed, including
> > the chalkboard lectures on this TV show. Also, mixing religion with politics
> > frightens me. If any European leader mentioned religion like our politicians
> > do constantly, they would not be reelected to office. I'm a firm believer
> > in Global Warming from a purely scientific stance, and am very tired in the
> > "tree hugging" accusations from conservatives thapt a conspiracy exists to
> > create a global warming falsehood. Glen Beck attacks Global Warming
> > scientific community under the guise that he's saving his children and
> > grandchildren from a liberal global warming hysteria created to increase
> > government power and control. He's wrong and is actually endangering the
> > lives of the next generation. Visit my conservative DECLASSIFIED
> > SECRETS-2 site at http://declassifiedsecrets2.blogspot.com/ and read
> > the article "*(A-T) **U.S. SPY SATELLITES NEEDED TO "SPY ON POLAR BEARS".
> > *The Joint Chiefs of Staff, Military Advisory Board (MAB- a Pentagon think
> > tank), and various other such groups believe not only does man's activities
> > exacerbate the normal global warming effect, but that man's activities and
> > global warming itself is a National Security Threat to America's safety.
> > If you read the MAB's incredibly detailed and scientifically perused report,
> > you'll question Glen Beck's assertions. Robert
>> > On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:06 PM, greg dog99 <gregdo...@gmail.com> wrote:> >> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>wrote:
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> >> While I am not a huge Beck fan, I am reading his book 'Arguing with
> >> Idiots', and finding myself agreeing with much of what he has to say. Very
> >> much anarcho-libertarian sentiment. The fact the founding fathers thought of
> >> their work as divinely inspired seems to raise the hackles of many whom
> >> otherwise consider themselves Libertarians.
> >> Greg
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> >>> Maybe not your cup of tea Robert, but there was no, "Religious
> >>> Overtones".....It was a religious rally, period! That was the point of the
> >>> rally, to get closer to God.
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> >>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Robert Morton <> >>> robertmorton...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>> I'm a Barry Goldwater, Ronal Reagon Republican and I hated Glenn Beck's
> >>>> rally, especially the religious overtones. Robert
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> >>>> On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:21 PM, Keith In Tampa <> >> For options & help seehttp://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum> >>>> keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >>>>> I have read a number of far left extremist blogs and news media
> >>>>> reports regarding Glenn Beck's "Restoring Honor" rally yesterday, to
> >>>>> include the New York Times, the Daily Kos, TruthOut.org, and a couple that
> >>>>> Tommy Tom For News has thrown into the mix this morning. The rally, which
> >>>>> was held at the Lincoln Memorial on the 47th anniversary of Dr. King's
> >>>>> speech was attended by no less than a half a million people, and most
> >>>>> estimates have the crowd at over one million. There were no serious
> >>>>> conflicts; no major arrests, nothing cosequential at all about the event,
> >>>>> but to read the far left's account of what took place yesterday, you would
> >>>>> think it was a great big hate-fest.
>
> >>>>> Beck attempted to create a non-political rally, in that he asked that
> >>>>> no one bring protest signs, and for the most part, very few individuals
> >>>>> did. The rally was to be a "Pro-American-Pro-Religious" event, and for this
> >>>>> reason, those on the left, especially the far left Anti-American movement in
> >>>>> this Nation, hated it, and have done everything that they can do, to
> >>>>> discredit the event.
>
> >>>>> The attempt by the Left to paint the event as racist and hateful
> >>>>> was seriously undermined by the appearance and speech by the niece of Martin
> >>>>> Luther King, Alveda King, a noted Black political activist. Then came the
> >>>>> claims that Beck's call for a religious renaissance in the United States was
> >>>>> somehow anti-Constitutional. The First Amendment, as you well know, does not
> >>>>> forbid the mention of God in American life -- even official American life.
> >>>>> In fact, it appears to say just the opposite: "*Congress shall make no
> >>>>> law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free
> >>>>> exercise thereof*". Geez, the Moonbats really hate that, if only they
> >>>>> could somehow do away with the Constitution!!
>
> >>>>> Our Declaration of Independence ends with these words: "*And for the
> >>>>> support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of
> >>>>> Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes
> >>>>> and our sacred honor*." Renewing our 'reliance on the protection of
> >>>>> Divine Providence' doesn't seem like such a bad idea, even after 234 years,
> >>>>> and despite the hateful yells and derogatory remarks from the likes of Tom
> >>>>> For News, and host of other far left extremist socialist-elitist Moonbats.
> >>>>> It is in fact the far left, socialist-elitist extremist camp that is so
> >>>>> filled with hate and so Anti-American, that is so blinded by their hate.
>
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> Have a great day,
> Tommy
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