On Apr 16, 2:40 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Where Andrew Sullivan, and Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews misses the
> mark, is that the Republican Party is not, "Anti-Gay". Conservatives, and
> especially Conservative Libertarians are not, "Anti-Gay", and there is no
> movement within the Republican Party to prohibit or restrict civil rights
> among any group or individual.
>
> What the majority of Americans are opposed to, is allowing any group or
> individual "Additional Rights and Privileges"; which many militant
> secularists who are attempting to carve out, as well as them being hell
> bent on revising our national history.
>
> Lil'MarxistMoonbatTommyTomTomForNews along with Andrew Sullivan are merely
> foot soldiers for the likes of Saul Alinsky, Marshall Kirk and Hunter
> Madsen.
>
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
> > You support democrats who believe in forcing gay kids to foot school where
> > ther are beaten and you oppose school choice that would allow them to go to
> > a safer school
>
> > You do this because your party depends on the slave trade for campaign
> > funds
>
> > You round up kids, especially poor brown and lack kids, and sell them to
> > the education cartels for campaign donatio s
>
> > Theirs blood and suicides are your alt
>
> > You are a homophobe, for pay
>
> > On Monday, April 16, 2012, Tommy News wrote:
>
> >> Gay Republicans are self-loathing hypocrites who support oppression
> >> and bigotry against themselves.
>
> >> I know one who rails against Marriage Equality, repeating what he
> >> hears on Faux Noise for the Parrots.
>
> >> How Can Anyone Be Gay and Republican?
>
> >> "To join a party on condition that we oppose our own civil rights and
> >> our own basic civil equality seems a non-starter for me," says the
> >> conservative blogger. "There's something quite nauseating about it
> >> actually."
>
> >> Question: How can anyone call himself a gay Republican?
>
> >> Andrew Sullivan: You know, I used to say, we have to stay in these
> >> parties because certainly gay people do not want to become a
> >> Democratic Party constituency that is totally taken for granted, which
> >> is, of course, what has happened. When you have no leverage over the
> >> party, they don't do anything for you—except take your money and
> >> invite you to cocktail parties, which is all that's happened really in
> >> two years under Obama with two houses of Congress.
>
> >> But at the same time, you know, this Homocon thing... it was in
> >> someone's apartment. I mean the idea that this has been any genuine
> >> meaning out there for most people, there are plenty of gay people;
> >> many, many, many more I think than other minority groups actually, who
> >> would love a party of limited small government, prudent, strong
> >> foreign policy, balanced budgets, live and let live, like the British
> >> Tories. And if the Republican Party ever becomes that again, I think
> >> there will be plenty of places for gay people in it.
> >> But to do so and join a party on condition that we oppose our own
> >> civil rights and our own basic civil equality seems a non-starter for
> >> me. I mean, it's... there's something quite nauseating about it
> >> actually. And you see even, like, Chris Barron who is the head of
> >> Homocon, or whatever they are calling themselves, GOProud, having to
> >> say that when Jim DeMint goes on and says that no gay person should be
> >> a school teacher, which is to the—which Ronald Reagan rejected in
> >> 1978—where are you left? I mean, it's also important to remember that
> >> the Republican Party is now a Southern party. So the old Republican
> >> party, which had a balance of different regions and was based also in
> >> the Libertarian West—and remember how Goldwater ended up—and of course
> >> many elite Republicans, by which I mean a lot of people in Washington,
> >> are completely comfortable and accepting of gay people, and support
> >> our right to marry and our right to serve our country without lying
> >> about ourselves, which are just the two non-negotiables. But they are
> >> cravenly incapable of either understanding the importance of that or
> >> taking us as serious human beings.
>
> >> I mean, I'm sorry, but Dick Cheney is not going to pass Mary Cheney,
> >> who is organizing to get a Republican majority that will make sure
> >> that gay people never serve openly in the military. And support a
> >> Republican Party in her own state that will strip her even the most
> >> basic contractual rights with her wife and children. At this point,
> >> I'm sorry, but no.
>
> >> Question: So how should gay conservatives vote—against their political
> >> beliefs or against their rights as humans?
>
> >> Andrew Sullivan: They have to vote for whichever candidate they think
> >> is the least worst option. And not... and of course we don't just
> >> vote on our sexual orientation. And on the critical issues, the
> >> critical issue of marriage, it's fundamentally a state issue anyway,
> >> although DOMA remains you know, a terrible blight on our national
> >> federal equality. So, I've never been a partisan, I've never been a
> >> Republican, I've never been a Democrat, ever, which is why I was very
> >> frustrated being called a gay Republican when I never attached myself
> >> to that. You just have to keep going. I mean I think our job, my
> >> job, is to keep articulating that I exist and that there are lots of
> >> people like me exist and we just have no home.
>
> >> But if temporarily we seek a home with Obama, or with people who are
> >> less hostile to us and we are not also too opposed to their other
> >> policies, then that's the compromise that we all have to make.
>
> >> More:
> >>http://bigthink.com/ideas/24588
>
> >> Andrew Sullivan
>
> >> --
> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> Have a great day,
> >> Tommy
>
> >> --
> >> Together, we can change the world, one mind at a time.
> >> Have a great day,
> >> Tommy
>
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