On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Tommy News <tommysnews@gmail.com> wrote:
Little Homophobic Kiethie Keith-
False and misleading, as always.
These parades are not private events at
all as police, firefighters, public officials, etc. both on and offYour photographs are represenative of vulgar heterosexual
duty, march on public property in a tax funded public parade.
exhibitionism.
Most gays dress conservatively, tastefully, and far nicer than you
do.
LIAR!
On Mar 19, 11:49 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Tom! (And Mark!)
>
> Tom, they are private events, from a number of standpoints, but to add to
> what Mark just said, the Gasparilla Parade here in Tampa is a private
> event. Ye Mystic Crewe of Gaspar pays a tremendous amount of money for the
> permit, but also for other city services, as well as security, (to include
> off duty Tampa Police Officers and Hillsborough County Sheriff's
> Deputies); I could go on, about sanitation, parking, etc.; and how the
> City of Tampa reaps in a number of these "Permit Payments/Payola"; for
> other vendors.And then, there's television.....Do you think that these TV
> stations get to set up for free? In NYC; for St. Paddies, which is
> televised all over the world.......Wonder how much that costs? Wonder what
> the City makes?
>
> One of the articles you posted eariler touched upon this subject.
>
> Yep, no question the parade is private.
>
> But here's the real issue, and why militant Gay Secularist organizations
> like the ones you belong to are persona non grata at family oriented
> parades:
>
> :
> ...>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Little Kiethie Kieth-
>
> > You need to go back to law school.
>
> > In 1995 , the GOP Roberts SCOTUS decided that the parade organizers
> > could exclude gay groups from marching, on the false premise that
> > these are "private events". In truth, they are not private events at
> > all as police, firefighters, public officials, etc. both on and off
> > duty, march on public property in a tax funded public parade. The city
> > provides security, policing, clean up, crowd control, etc. paid for by
> > public tax dollars.
>
> > On Mar 19, 4:15 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Since when did Gays, Lesbians and Transgender folks get banned from
> > > marching in the St. Paddy's Day parade?
>
> > > Once again, more militant secular spin lies and prevaricate hogwash from
> > > again, the militant, homosexual agenda!
>
> > > The only restriction, against ANYONE or ANY GROUP, is that this is a
> > > family parade, and there will be no nekkidness, there will be no
> > > fornication, there will be no one dressed in assless chaps, or nekkid
> > > Statues of Liberty.
>
> > > That pretty much eliminates TommyTomTomForNews from marching, probably
> > > PlainOl too.
>
> > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, plainolamerican <
> > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > an embarrassment
> > > > in a state where we now have marriage rights
> > > > ---
> > > > Irish and African-American lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and
> > > > queer (LGBTQ) communities have a lot in common when it comes to being
> > > > excluded from the iconic institutions in their communities.
>
> > > > For LGBTQ African Americans, it's the Black Church, and for LGBTQ
> > > > Irish Americans, it's the St. Patrick's Day Parade.
>
> > > > Unlike the Black Church, however, that has and continues to throw the
> > > > Bible at its LGBTQ community to justify their exclusionary practices,
> > > > the St. Patrick's Day parade committee uses the First Amendment,
> > > > debating that they are constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of
> > > > religion, speech and association, and the tenet separating church and
> > > > state.
>
> > > > In 1994 Boston's St. Patrick's Day parade was canceled over this
> > > > issue. The state's highest court ruled that the parade organizers
> > > > could not ban members of the LGBTQ community from marching. But in a
> > > > counter lawsuit, parade officials won, accusing LGBTQ Irish-Americans
> > > > of violating their rights to free speech under the First Amendment.
>
> > > > On Mar 19, 10:37 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Will Comcast Make This The Last St. Patrick's Day Parade To Exclude
> > Gays?
>
> > > > > -by Michelangelo Signorile
>
> > > > > It's 2012, and in the state of New York gays and lesbians have full
> > > > > civil rights, including marriage equality. Moreover, gays are no
> > > > > longer banned in the U.S. military. But they are still banned from
> > > > > Fifth Avenue's annual St. Patrick's Day Parade in an embarrassing
> > > > > throwback for everyone involved.
>
> > > > > It's frankly appalling that NBC, and now its parent company Comcast,
> > > > > still sells the broadcast rights (on its local affiliate, WNBC) to
> > the
> > > > > intolerant bunch that runs the parade (in 2007 that amount was
> > > > > $300,000) and then helps the organizers sell advertising to major
> > > > > companies. More than that, one of NBC's top executives, a man who
> > aids
> > > > > the organizers in getting those ad dollars, was chosen as this year's
> > > > > Grand Marshal.
>
> > > > > As David Mixner notes, most New York politicians who support equality
> > > > > won't march in the parade because of this bigotry. Last year, the
> > > > > Irish Foreign Minister condemned the parade, and the President of
> > > > > Ireland declined an invitation to be Grand Marshal. But Francis X.
> > > > > Comerford, Chief Revenue Officer and President of Commercial
> > > > > Operations for the NBC Owned Television Stations, has no problem
> > > > > leading the parade as Grand Marshal.
>
> > > > > Groups like the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD)
> > > > > have criticized NBC for its relationship with the parade since the
> > > > > early '90s. Other groups have protested the parade annually,
> > sometimes
> > > > > resulting in arrests, and this year the group Irish Queers will be
> > > > > demonstrating once again. For years it's all been to no avail.
>
> > > > > But with Comcast now in charge after the controversial merger with
> > NBC
> > > > > was finalized, 2012 could be the last year in which gays are excluded
> > > > > -- or the last year in which NBC is involved in the parade.
>
> > > > > There are a few reasons for this. One of them has to do with the
> > terms
> > > > > of the merger itself, in which Brian Roberts, chairman and CEO of
> > > > > Comcast, testified before the House Judiciary Committee, where he
> > > > > vowed to adhere to diversity in every aspect of the company's
> > business
> > > > > dealings. From the company's own blog:
>
> > > > > Diversity: A few members of the Committee raised questions about
> > > > > diversity at Comcast (and NBCU). Brian reiterated the company's
> > > > > commitment to promoting diversity in everything the company does. To
> > > > > me, as Comcast's Chief Diversity Officer, this means, among other
> > > > > things, diversity in our workforce, in our programming lineup, in our
> > > > > supplier base, and in our community investments (philanthropy) -- and
> > > > > having results we can be proud of.
> > > > > Furthermore, the actual approval letter from the FCC states that
> > > > > Comcast must adhere to diversity rules for seven years or the merger
> > > > > could be undone:
>
> > > > > Protecting Diversity, Localism, Broadcast and Other Public Interest
> > > > > Concerns. The Commission is also imposing conditions and accepting
> > > > > voluntary commitments concerning a numbers of other public interest
> > > > > issues, including diversity, localism, and broadcasting, among
> > others.
> > > > > Sure, it's debatable whether selling the broadcast rights to a parade
> > > > > that admittedly excludes a minority group violates the FCC's
> > diversity
> > > > > rules. But it's certainly something that LGBT activists would argue,
> > > > > bringing a lot of attention to the issue. Comcast may not want that
> > > > > fight now.
>
> > > > > And that brings me to the other reasons. Comcast prides itself on its
> > > > > outreach to the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT)
> > > > > community. Just take a look at this page, where the company touts its
> > > > > 95-percent score on the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality
> > > > > Index and brags of programming that reaches out to LGBT people.
> > > > > Comcast also sponsors the annual GLAAD Media Awards and, as the
> > > > > company describes, "partners with various LGBT community centers
> > > > > across the country that provide a range of services for the LGBT
> > > > > community."
>
> > > > > It's a different time than when the Ancient Order of the Hibernians
> > > > > began excluding gays from the St. Patrick's Day Parade in the early
> > > > > '90s. Netroots activism gets things done very quickly today. HRC, in
> > > > > part responding to pressure from other activists, lowered Target's
> > and
> > > > > Best Buy's CEI score after the retail chains gave money to a
> > political
> > > > > action committee that backed an anti-gay candidate. GLAAD withdrew
> > its
> > > > > support of the failed AT&T/T-Mobile merger after grassroots activists
> > > > > mobilized on the Web and raised concerns.
>
> > > > > Already, GLAAD is calling for the parade to be dropped moving forward
> > > > > if gays are not included. "The idea that a group of LGBT people
> > aren't
> > > > > allowed to participate in a parade in the middle of New York City in
> > > > > the year 2012 is completely out of touch with a majority of Americans
> > > > > and it is frankly indefensible," GLAAD spokesperson Herndon Graddick
> > > > > said in a statement. "GLAAD will be requesting to meet with WNBC to
> > > > > ensure that, if such discriminatory practices remain in place, the
> > > > > event isn't one associated with such an important and inclusive media
> > > > > outlet that should represent the full diversity of New York City."
>
> > > > > When LGBT activists have organized online and focused on companies
> > > > > that have supported homophobia -- companies that pride themselves on
> > > > > being pro-gay -- they've been enormously successful. Microsoft
> > > > > reversed course pronto in 2005 after it went neutral on a gay rights
> > > > > bill in the state of Washington, and that's just one example.
>
> > > > > The truth is, most LGBT activists weren't focused on the St.
> > Patrick's
> > > > > Day Parade all these years, with bigger fish to fry. But many are now
> > > > > looking at this as unfinished business -- as I said, an embarrassment
> > > > > in a state where we now have marriage
>
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