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On Mar 21, 12:39 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Funny the pics are from a gay "only" parade...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Little Homophobic Kiethie Keith-
>
> > False and misleading, as always.
>
> > These parades are not private events at
> > all as police, firefighters, public officials, etc. both on and off
> > duty, march on public property in a tax funded public parade.
>
> > Your photographs are represenative of vulgar heterosexual
> > exhibitionism.
> > Most gays dress conservatively, tastefully, and far nicer than you
> > do.
>
> > LIAR!
>
> > On Mar 19, 11:49 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hey Tom! (And Mark!)
>
> > > Tom, they are private events, from a number of standpoints, but to add
> > to
> > > what Mark just said, the Gasparilla Parade here in Tampa is a private
> > > event. Ye Mystic Crewe of Gaspar pays a tremendous amount of money for
> > the
> > > permit, but also for other city services, as well as security, (to
> > include
> > > off duty Tampa Police Officers and Hillsborough County Sheriff's
> > > Deputies); I could go on, about sanitation, parking, etc.; and how
> > the
> > > City of Tampa reaps in a number of these "Permit Payments/Payola"; for
> > > other vendors.And then, there's television.....Do you think that these
> > TV
> > > stations get to set up for free? In NYC; for St. Paddies, which is
> > > televised all over the world.......Wonder how much that costs? Wonder
> > what
> > > the City makes?
>
> > > One of the articles you posted eariler touched upon this subject.
>
> > > Yep, no question the parade is private.
>
> > > But here's the real issue, and why militant Gay Secularist organizations
> > > like the ones you belong to are persona non grata at family oriented
> > > parades:
>
> > > :
>
> > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Little Kiethie Kieth-
>
> > > > You need to go back to law school.
>
> > > > In 1995 , the GOP Roberts SCOTUS decided that the parade organizers
> > > > could exclude gay groups from marching, on the false premise that
> > > > these are "private events". In truth, they are not private events at
> > > > all as police, firefighters, public officials, etc. both on and off
> > > > duty, march on public property in a tax funded public parade. The city
> > > > provides security, policing, clean up, crowd control, etc. paid for by
> > > > public tax dollars.
>
> > > > On Mar 19, 4:15 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Since when did Gays, Lesbians and Transgender folks get banned from
> > > > > marching in the St. Paddy's Day parade?
>
> > > > > Once again, more militant secular spin lies and prevaricate hogwash
> > from
> > > > > again, the militant, homosexual agenda!
>
> > > > > The only restriction, against ANYONE or ANY GROUP, is that this is a
> > > > > family parade, and there will be no nekkidness, there will be no
> > > > > fornication, there will be no one dressed in assless chaps, or
> > nekkid
> > > > > Statues of Liberty.
>
> > > > > That pretty much eliminates TommyTomTomForNews from marching,
> > probably
> > > > > PlainOl too.
>
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:59 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > an embarrassment
> > > > > > in a state where we now have marriage rights
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Irish and African-American lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and
> > > > > > queer (LGBTQ) communities have a lot in common when it comes to
> > being
> > > > > > excluded from the iconic institutions in their communities.
>
> > > > > > For LGBTQ African Americans, it's the Black Church, and for LGBTQ
> > > > > > Irish Americans, it's the St. Patrick's Day Parade.
>
> > > > > > Unlike the Black Church, however, that has and continues to throw
> > the
> > > > > > Bible at its LGBTQ community to justify their exclusionary
> > practices,
> > > > > > the St. Patrick's Day parade committee uses the First Amendment,
> > > > > > debating that they are constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of
> > > > > > religion, speech and association, and the tenet separating church
> > and
> > > > > > state.
>
> > > > > > In 1994 Boston's St. Patrick's Day parade was canceled over this
> > > > > > issue. The state's highest court ruled that the parade organizers
> > > > > > could not ban members of the LGBTQ community from marching. But in
> > a
> > > > > > counter lawsuit, parade officials won, accusing LGBTQ
> > Irish-Americans
> > > > > > of violating their rights to free speech under the First Amendment.
>
> > > > > > On Mar 19, 10:37 am, Tommy News <tommysn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Will Comcast Make This The Last St. Patrick's Day Parade To
> > Exclude
> > > > Gays?
>
> > > > > > > -by Michelangelo Signorile
>
> > > > > > > It's 2012, and in the state of New York gays and lesbians have
> > full
> > > > > > > civil rights, including marriage equality. Moreover, gays are no
> > > > > > > longer banned in the U.S. military. But they are still banned
> > from
> > > > > > > Fifth Avenue's annual St. Patrick's Day Parade in an embarrassing
> > > > > > > throwback for everyone involved.
>
> > > > > > > It's frankly appalling that NBC, and now its parent company
> > Comcast,
> > > > > > > still sells the broadcast rights (on its local affiliate, WNBC)
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > > intolerant bunch that runs the parade (in 2007 that amount was
> > > > > > > $300,000) and then helps the organizers sell advertising to major
> > > > > > > companies. More than that, one of NBC's top executives, a man who
> > > > aids
> > > > > > > the organizers in getting those ad dollars, was chosen as this
> > year's
> > > > > > > Grand Marshal.
>
> > > > > > > As David Mixner notes, most New York politicians who support
> > equality
> > > > > > > won't march in the parade because of this bigotry. Last year, the
> > > > > > > Irish Foreign Minister condemned the parade, and the President of
> > > > > > > Ireland declined an invitation to be Grand Marshal. But Francis
> > X.
> > > > > > > Comerford, Chief Revenue Officer and President of Commercial
> > > > > > > Operations for the NBC Owned Television Stations, has no problem
> > > > > > > leading the parade as Grand Marshal.
>
> > > > > > > Groups like the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation
> > (GLAAD)
> > > > > > > have criticized NBC for its relationship with the parade since
> > the
> > > > > > > early '90s. Other groups have protested the parade annually,
> > > > sometimes
> > > > > > > resulting in arrests, and this year the group Irish Queers will
> > be
> > > > > > > demonstrating once again. For years it's all been to no avail.
>
> > > > > > > But with Comcast now in charge after the controversial merger
> > with
> > > > NBC
> > > > > > > was finalized, 2012 could be the last year in which gays are
> > excluded
> > > > > > > -- or the last year in which NBC is involved in the parade.
>
> > > > > > > There are a few reasons for this. One of them has to do with the
> > > > terms
> > > > > > > of the merger itself, in which Brian Roberts, chairman and CEO of
> > > > > > > Comcast, testified before the House Judiciary Committee, where he
> > > > > > > vowed to adhere to diversity in every aspect of the company's
> > > > business
> > > > > > > dealings. From the company's own blog:
>
> > > > > > > Diversity: A few members of the Committee raised questions about
> > > > > > > diversity at Comcast (and NBCU). Brian reiterated the company's
> > > > > > > commitment to promoting diversity in everything the company
> > does. To
> > > > > > > me, as Comcast's Chief Diversity Officer, this means, among other
> > > > > > > things, diversity in our workforce, in our programming lineup,
> > in our
> > > > > > > supplier base, and in our community investments (philanthropy)
> > -- and
> > > > > > > having results we can be proud of.
> > > > > > > Furthermore, the actual approval letter from the FCC states that
> > > > > > > Comcast must adhere to diversity rules for seven years or the
> > merger
> > > > > > > could be undone:
>
> > > > > > > Protecting Diversity, Localism, Broadcast and Other Public
> > Interest
> > > > > > > Concerns. The Commission is also imposing conditions and
> > accepting
> > > > > > > voluntary commitments concerning a numbers of other public
> > interest
> > > > > > > issues, including diversity, localism, and broadcasting, among
> > > > others.
> > > > > > > Sure, it's debatable whether selling the broadcast rights to a
> > parade
> > > > > > > that admittedly excludes a minority group violates the FCC's
> > > > diversity
> > > > > > > rules. But it's certainly something that LGBT activists would
> > argue,
> > > > > > > bringing a lot of attention to the issue. Comcast may not want
> > that
> > > > > > > fight now.
>
> > > > > > > And that brings me to the other reasons. Comcast prides itself
> > on its
> > > > > > > outreach to the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT)
> > > > > > > community. Just take a look at this page, where the company
> > touts its
> > > > > > > 95-percent score on the Human Rights Campaign's Corporate
> > Equality
> > > > > > > Index and brags of programming that reaches out to LGBT people.
> > > > > > > Comcast also sponsors the annual GLAAD Media Awards and, as the
> > > > > > > company describes, "partners with various LGBT community centers
> > > > > > > across the country that provide a range of services for the LGBT
> > > > > > > community."
>
> > > > > > > It's a different time than when the Ancient Order of the
> > Hibernians
> > > > > > > began excluding gays from the St. Patrick's Day Parade in the
> > early
> > > > > > > '90s. Netroots activism gets things done very quickly today.
> > HRC, in
> > > > > > > part responding to pressure from other activists, lowered
> > Target's
> > > > and
> > > > > > > Best Buy's CEI score after the retail chains gave money to a
> > > > political
> > > > > > > action committee that backed an anti-gay candidate. GLAAD
> > withdrew
> > > > its
> > > > > > > support of the failed AT&T/T-Mobile merger after grassroots
> > activists
> > > > > > > mobilized on the Web and raised concerns.
>
> > > > > > > Already, GLAAD is calling for the parade to be
>
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