Monday, March 26, 2012

Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence

PlainOl'

Does you ass get jealous of the shit you mouth spews?

On 26 March 2012 12:18, plainolamerican <plainolamerican@gmail.com> wrote:
> intentionally or just through sloppiness?
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> the fact is, zionist xians and jews are out to kill as many muzzies as
> possible.
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> fund and fight your own wars without US tax dollars and military
> support
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> On Mar 26, 10:27 am, "drob...@comcast.net"<drob...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Did you leave off the conditional clause "in an attempt to kill the maximum number possible" intentionally or just through sloppiness?
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>> -----Original message-----
>> From: plainolamerican <plainolameri...@gmail.com>
>> To: PoliticalForum <politicalforum@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Mar 26, 2012 14:21:04 GMT+00:00
>> Subject: Re: The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>>
>> I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
>> North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns
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>> HOUSTON -- A Muslim man who was shot in a hate crime following the
>> 9/11 terrorist attacks is calling for forgiveness for his attacker.
>>
>> September 11th was a day that would forever change the nation's psyche
>> and it set events in motion that, 10 days later, would forever change
>> Rais Bhuiyan's life.
>>
>> Bhuiyan calls September 11th his second birthday.
>>
>> "I got my life back," he said.
>>
>> Bhuiyan was one of the first hate crime victims in the wake of 9/11.
>> He was shot in the face while working at a Dallas convenience store.
>>
>> "He asked me 'Where are you from?' and I said, 'Excuse me?'  As soon
>> as I spoke, I felt the sensation of a million bees stinging my face
>> and I heard an explosion," he said.
>>
>> He was white supremacist Mark Stroman, who is set to be executed next
>> month for killing two other men in similar incidents.
>>
>> Now in a stunning and some would say inspirational turn of events,
>> Bhuiyan, who lost vision in his right eye because of the attack, has
>> grown to see things in a different light.
>>
>> "I forgave Mark Stroman man years ago.  In fact I never hated him.  I
>> never hated America for what happened to me either," he said.
>>
>> He, as well as others in the Muslim community and beyond are now
>> pushing to have Stroman's death sentence communed to life without
>> parole.
>>
>> "Islam calls us to forgiveness and compassion," said Mustaffa Carroll,
>> with CAIR Texas.
>>
>> Bhuiyan said the bigger message here is this is all about passion,
>> forgiveness and healing.
>>
>> As the tenth anniversary of 9/11 approaches, he said it's a wake-up
>> call for the conscience of a nation.
>>
>> On Mar 26, 5:45 am, Bruce Majors <majors.br...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > The French Whitewash of Muslim on Jew Violence
>>
>> > Mar 24, 2012
>>
>> > By Barry Rubin
>>
>> > The murders in Toulouse should be a wake-up call for France. True, the
>> > assaults on Jews and French soldiers were three individual terror attacks
>> > perpetrated. Yet they are among dozens of antisemitic incidents that happen
>> > daily in France and throughout Europe. A big story like the Toulouse attack
>> > can draw attention to a broader, dangerous social trend.
>>
>> > Or it can be treated as an isolated incident. Nothing to see here; move
>> > along; go back to sleep. Al-Qaida terrorists don't pull up in front of
>> > Jewish schools to murder teachers and students every day, right?
>>
>> > In the past, the mass media could be expected to present a debate on how to
>> > interpret this event but now all too often they give a monopoly to the
>> > whitewashers and the apologists.
>>
>> > Phase one is to present any terrorist as a right-wing, neo-Nazi, or
>> > opponent of left-wing policies. If the terrorist is a Muslim, however, his
>> > own explanations—citing dominant interpretations of Islam and the goal of
>> > furthering an Islamist revolution—are ignored. Instead, he or they are
>> > presented as confused, psychologically disturbed individuals; victims of
>> > discrimination; or, in short, anything other than ideologically motivated
>> > revolutionaries.
>>
>> > Perhaps the leading "professional" apologist for France in this context is
>> > Justin Vaisse. In an article in Foreign Policy, The "New Normal" in
>> > France?, he claims that Mohamed Merah, the Toulouse terrorist, is sort of a
>> > sad sack character who is merely seeking to take his fate into his own
>> > hands and to emerge as the defender of oppressed Muslims in France. In
>> > other words, he's sort of a combination of self-help fanatic and
>> > crime-fighting superhero.
>>
>> > As for France itself, antisemitism is supposedly declining. There's no
>> > problem and few major attacks on Jews. Everything is just fine. No need to
>> > make changes; no need to demand that Muslims teach tolerance and fight
>> > against extremists in their own ranks; no need to provide more protection
>> > for Jewish institutions. And no need for a real soul-searching about the
>> > constant demonization of Israel in the French media and, at times, schools.
>>
>> > Is this disgusting? Yes and it's also dangerous. The subhead on the article
>> > tells us the Toulouse attack is merely "a banal and fading version of
>> > extremism."To a Jewish ear, the word "banal" recalls the famous Hannah
>> > Arendt line about the "banality of evil" in the Holocaust, while the word
>> > "fading" means the problem is going away.
>>
>> > It so happens that I have met Monsieur Vaisse and discussed these issues
>> > with him. At that time he was an advisor on Islam in the French government.
>> > Vaisse had just written a book saying that there was no real political
>> > problem regarding Muslims in France. The book was quickly translated into
>> > English and published by a prestigious Washington research center.
>>
>> > According to Vaisse, the entire difficulty lay with economic and social
>> > issues. The problem was that Muslims were poor and badly treated. If this
>> > were fixed then there would be no radicalism, Islamism, or terrorism.
>>
>> > I asked him: Accepting your premise for the moment, why should we possibly
>> > believe that France can solve the economic and social problems involved?
>> > There aren't good jobs; there is no prospect of better housing and higher
>> > living standards. Government regulations discourage entrepreneurship. So in
>> > the context of your worldview, isn't the prospect for more radicalization
>> > and violence?
>>
>> > He simply gave no serious answer. And this, I should add, was before the
>> > current international economic crash and the Paris riots.
>>
>> > But there's more. A colleague asked Vaisse what sources he used in
>> > composing his study. Only French-language sources, he replied. My
>> > astonished colleague said that nothing could be understood without looking
>> > also at the Arabic material that French Muslims were writing and reading.
>> > In fact, this person added, there was an Arabic-language bookstore within
>> > five minutes' walk of Vaisse's office and we could go there right now and
>> > see the radical, antisemitic child-raising manuals being sold there. These
>> > books, my colleague added, weren't just sitting on the shelves they were
>> > being bought and used.
>>
>> > Vaisse showed zero interest in this point.
>>
>> > For Vaisse, revolutionary Islamism is simply not a factor of any
>> > importance. While he correctly points out that many French Muslim activists
>> > aren't personally pious in their behavior (drinking alcohol, for example),
>> > this is besides the point. Islamism becomes a form of ethnic nationalism
>> > for them, justifying anti-Jewish and general anti-French actions.
>>
>> > In addition, this is no transient "second-generation" phenomenon. For over
>> > time, the radicalism is passed on to the third generation through Islamic
>> > schools, mosques, and indoctrination at home. In effect, France and other
>> > countries are turning themselves into permanently unstable bi-national
>> > states.
>>
>> > Incidentally, in the Netherlands—in contrast to France—Jewish groups
>> > successfully protested the sale of these child-raising manuals telling
>> > parents to teach their kids that Jews were evil and should be extirpated.
>> > The Dutch government responded by ordering little strips of white paper be
>> > glued over the offending passages. My host then showed me, with a flick of
>> > his finger, how easily these paste-overs could be removed and the sections
>> > calling for the killing of Jews be read.
>>
>> > Now consider this point. I am unaware of a single incident in Europe or
>> > North America when a non-Muslim attacked Muslims with guns or bombs in an
>> > attempt to kill the maximum number possible. Probably, you could find a
>> > couple of such cases but it won't be easy and they won't be many. It is the
>> > Jews who are being targeted as a group by many levels of violence and
>> > intimidation. This is a secret to nobody except Western governments,
>> > "experts," and much of the mass media.
>>
>> > I have listened in France to discussions among Jews over what parts of
>> > their cities were still safe to live in and which were too dangerous. The
>> > key factor is whether you are wealthy enough to move away from the threats.
>> > I've heard Jewish parents discussing their kids' traumatic experiences in
>> > the public schools.
>>
>> > French Jews are either leaving France or at least buying homes in Israel.
>> > Aside from reports in mostly Jewish media, I know about this because I hear
>> > more French being spoken in Tel Aviv streets. My real estate agent friend
>> > has a growing number of French clients, some of whom leave their families
>> > in Israel and commute to work in France. These people know what's actually
>> > going on in France and other countries.
>>
>> > Der Speigel interviews, Daniel Ben-Simon, an expert who explains there are,
>> > "hundreds of anti-Semitic incidents" a year, committed mainly by Arab
>> > immigrants. Indeed, the teacher and his two children murdered in Toulouse
>> > were French Jews who had emigrated to Israel until he had been persuaded to
>> > return to France to work in the school.
>>
>> > So while we will be told to listen to Vaisse and such people, these
>> > reassuring lies have nothing to do with reality.
>>
>> > This is not just a matter of misinformation. Such falsehoods encourage
>> > governments and institutions not to prepare, not to change their ways, not
>> > to learn from bloody experience, to continue denying the very existence of
>> > an antisemitic problem. And that means there will occasionally be more such
>> > tragedies but also hundreds of incitements to antisemitism, blood libels
>> > against Israel, assaults, threats, and other acts of anti-Jewish hatred
>> > that you will never hear about.
>>
>> ...
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