a ploy to try and force the gay lifestyle upon Americans as being
"normal"
---
seeing the gay lifestyle as abnormal is where you are mistaken
The Homosexual Lifestyle / Gay Lifestyle is:
Get up in the morning, moaning at the alarm clock.
Shower, dress, eat breakfast.
Go to work.
Complain about traffic.
Work. Worry about the job getting outsourced to India.
Go home. Worry about gas prices.
Stop for groceries on the way once or twice a week.
Cook dinner. Realize there's no butter.
Eat dinner. Worry about blood pressure and cholesterol.
Do laundry. Try to figure out how to get that tomato stain out of
that t-shirt.
Clean the house. Realize that a sock didn't make it into the
laundry.
Pay bills. Worry about saving for retirement.
Watch a little TV, spend time with any family members in the
house, talk with friends on the Internet.
Go to sleep.
Repeat.
Decadent, isn't it?
Practically every concievable type of "marriage" has been practiced by
one group or another: societies have been observed in which women are
"married" off before even being concieved and may be bartered by their
"husbands" as currency; societies have been observed in which all men
practice ritual homosexuality and only visit their wives for
reproductive purposes. As gay Americans, we find such societies to be
bizarre and distasteful, but their existence demonstrates that the
contemporary idea of the heterosexual nuclear family has not been an
unchanged standard for all of human history. Marriage as we know it
today came about in the 20th century, with women obtaining equal
rights and the Supreme Court ordering that interracial couples must be
permitted to marry. Marriage has withstood countless changes over the
hundreds of thousands of years of human history, and will continue
long after gay people have joined the ranks of married couples.
On Feb 14, 4:49 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> PlainOl,
>
> I will put my record of defending equal rights, be it based on racial
> discrimination, or sexual discrimination, against yours, any day of the
> week.
>
> That dog won't hunt. There's no bias, misinformation, or prejudice here.
> I am just a regular, "plain ol' " American, concerned about secularists
> such as yourself and the damage that you are attempting to inflict upon our
> Nation. I, along with other concerned Americans like myself, won't allow
> this revision to do down, and EVERYWHERE that there has been a public
> referendum, the measure(s) have been defeated. Count on it.
>
> Just as an example, "If" this was about equal rights, then Gays would
> accept the term, "Civil Union", which in California is the current law:
>
> http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=fam&group=00001...
>
> With purposeful , extensive, methodical propaganda, planning, massive
> amounts of funding by the likes of George Soros and others, and with
> controlled, extensive media manipulation, you, and many Americans have been
> intentionally misled and mislead. There has been a concerted effort by a
> select hard core group of secularists, who want to destroy the traditional
> values of this Nation, the very core values that made this Nation
> great.
>
> As stated, most conservatives are not objectionable to civil unions for
> homosexuals, albeit the gay militant movement tries to frame this as being
> some kind of "separate but equal" token of inequality. As I just
> demonstrated, California has a "domestic partner" law, which allows for
> civil unions between homosexuals. Ironically, we have surely not seen
> any of the mainstream news media focusing on this issue, as a matter of
> fact, most people, including homosexuals, are unaware that California has a
> "Civil Union" statute.
>
> To date, IN ANY STATE, there is no discrimination against homosexuals
> living as a couple, that a few legal documents, such as a living will, a
> last will, and documents allowing for the sharing of of financial
> portfolios and accounts would remedy. This fact in and of itself,
> establishes my point, that there is a secular movement in an attempt to
> force mainstream America to accept "gay marriage" as being the only
> recourse to allow homosexuals to be "equal". In fact, this is nothing but
> a ploy to try and force the gay lifestyle upon Americans as being "normal";
> and anyone who opposes such a radical change in the definition of
> "Marriage" are homophobic.
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:40 PM, plainolamerican
> <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We're whipping a dead horse here.
> > ---
> > I don't have an interest in the gay marriage issue and rarely speak on
> > it .... but I do see the anti-gay crowd as bigots - defending a word
> > because they're biased against homosexuals.
> > They are citizens just like you and me ... with all the rights that go
> > with be an American.
>
> > "I/We" have provided ample examples and
> > proof that disproves any bigotry or ignorance.
> > ----
> > try again ... defending the word marriage to veil your bias doesn't
> > work
>
> > You PlainOl, are a
> > secularist, and apparently are intent on rewriting American history.
> > ---
> > the word marriage has nothing to do with American history ... now
> > you're a word-nazi?
>
> > It won't work.
> > ---
> > it already is working.
> > Gays are going to marry nationwide and the word marriage will still
> > exist.
>
> > On Feb 14, 2:09 pm, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We're whipping a dead horse here. "I/We" have provided ample examples
> > and
> > > proof that disproves any bigotry or ignorance. You PlainOl, are a
> > > secularist, and apparently are intent on rewriting American history.
>
> > > It won't work.
>
> > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM, plainolamerican
> > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > I found nothing about religion in the etymology.
>
> > > > regardless ... bigotry against homosexuals is never justified
>
> > > > On Feb 14, 1:12 pm, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Already did earlier in the string. Posted the entire etymology of the
> > > > word.
>
> > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > cite source
>
> > > > > > On Feb 14, 10:57 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > The very word "marry" is gender and religiously based.
>
> > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:56 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > But marriage is "religious".
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > only to the religious
> > > > > > > > People marry for many reasons, including one or more of the
> > > > following:
> > > > > > > > legal, social, libidinal, emotional, economic, spiritual, and
> > > > > > > > religious.
>
> > > > > > > > Whether you like it, or don't like it, our
> > > > > > > > Nation is founded on Christian principles and beliefs.
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > with specific instructions to keep religion and the state
> > separate
>
> > > > > > > > No getting around
> > > > > > > > that PlainOl. That is where secularists like you will
> > continue to
> > > > > > > > fail,
> > > > > > > > and miserably, as you continue to attempt to redefine our
> > history.
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > our history includes xianity, judaism, mormonism, islam and
> > many
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > myth believers
>
> > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 10:33 am, Keith In Tampa <keithinta...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > But marriage is "religious". Whether you like it, or don't
> > like
> > > > it,
> > > > > > our
> > > > > > > > > Nation is founded on Christian principles and beliefs. No
> > > > getting
> > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > that PlainOl. That is where secularists like you will
> > continue
> > > > to
> > > > > > fail,
> > > > > > > > > and miserably, as you continue to attempt to redefine our
> > > > history.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:31 AM, plainolamerican <
> > > > > > > > plainolameri...@gmail.com
>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > there are no "rights" involved
> > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > the right to marry
>
> > > > > > > > > > personally, I don't think the state should be involved in
> > the
> > > > > > process,
> > > > > > > > > > but if they are allowed to regulate marriage then they must
> > > > treat
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > people fairly.
>
> > > > > > > > > > yes ... gays should have the right to marry and the
> > religious
> > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > butt out
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Feb 14, 8:51 am, Mark <markmka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > militant gay agenda pushing for
> > > > > > > > > > > additional, and I might add, unequal rights.
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > no additional or unequal rights are being requested
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Plainol... there are no "rights" involved. Why do you
> > keep
> > > > saying
> > > > > > > > that??
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Let's look at this. I go to the county or city to get a
> > > > permit.
> > > > > > That
> > > > > > > > > > permit
> > > > > > > > > > > does not EVER include shingles made from dragon skin. I
> > want
> > > > > > shingles
> > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > from dragon skin. I say but other people have shingles
> > that
> > > > they
> > > > > > > > like and
> > > > > > > > > > > that suit them why can't I???
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Gay marriage is exactly the same. It is asking for
> > something
> > > > that
> > > > > > > > never
> > > > > > > > > > > existed, was never considered as reasonable and that most
> > > > people
> > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > agree with.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > It is indeed asking for a variance that was never
> > imagined
> > > > when
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > permit
> > > > > > > > > > > process was discussed and passed as law.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Marriage, like dragon skin shingles, is NOT a "right".
> > It
> > > > is an
> > > > > > > > item or
> > > > > > > > > > > activity that requires a permit just like many other
> > items or
> > > > > > > > activities.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > To make the "special change" to a permit or zoning
> > > > restriction
> > > > > > > > requires
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > advice AND consent of a majority of my neighbors (SIGNED
> > > > > > consent).
> > > > > > > > Why
> > > > > > > > > > > should this permit variance be ANY different? Let's let
> > > > America
> > > > > > vote,
> > > > > > > > > > State
> > > > > > > > > > > by State to decide what is a HUGE issue to some? Fear of
> > > > failure,
> > > > > > > > that's
> > > > > > > > > > > why.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:55 AM, plainolamerican
> > > > > > > > > > > <plainolameri...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > militant gay agenda pushing for
> > > > > > > > > > > > additional, and I might add, unequal rights.
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > no additional or unequal rights are being requested
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Marriage has never been, and will never be anything
> > other
> > > > than
> > > > > > > > between
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > man and a woman.
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > take off your blinders
> > > > > > > > > > > >http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/marriage
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > All this is, is an attempt by secularists, in this
> > case
> > > > > > > > > > > > militant Gay secularists, to try and redefine American
> > > > history,
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > it has nothing to do with American history ... other
> > than
> > > > > > become a
> > > > > > > > > > > > lesson like witch burning for the religious
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > and to
> > > > > > > > > > > > shove down Americans' proverbial throats a homosexual
> > > > > > lifestyle as
> > > > > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > > normal. I don't accept that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > > you choose not to accept it .. and you would be
> > kicking and
> > > > > > > > screaming
> > > > > > > > > > > > if it was
>
> ...
>
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